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House | April 16, 2015 | Chamber | House Session

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The House will come to order, members will take their seats. Visitors will retire from the chamber, Sergeant-at-arms will close the doors. Members and visitors alike are asked to please silence all electronic devices. Today's prayer will be offered by Representative Linda Johnson will ask the members to stand for the prayer and also our guests in the gallery, if you'd please stand for the prayer and remain standing for the pledge of allegience. Thank you. Representative Johnson. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If you'd bow your heads please. Lord we come to you today with humble hearts knowing we've all sinned and come short of the glory of God. Sometimes Lord we're so busy doing our service for this day that we don't stop and breath in your blessings. We thank you for all our blessings especially for the beauty of this season, and the hope that it brings. so laden sometimes we forget your scripture that tells us to trust in you Lord with all our heart and lean not into our own understanding, and always acknowledge you, and you'll direct our pass,. Lord we ask for your direction this day we ask for wisdom of Solomon the patients of Job, and the love and understanding of your grace. I ask this prayer for blessing in the name of my Lord and savior Jesus Christ, Amen. I pledge to allegiance, to the pledge of the United State of America and to the republic which it stands, one nation under God indivisible, liberty and justice for all. The gentleman from Hardy representative Luiz is recognized for a motion.  Mr. Speaker the journal for April 14 has been examined and found to be correct I know that as stand approved as written.   Representative Louis moved at the journal rent for 14th being approved as written in favor will say Aye. Aye. Those who oppose will say no. The Ayes have it and the Journal is approved as written. Members our nurse of the day is Steven Bedu from Carry North Carolina, you're not here yet so we'll come back to that in just a few moments. Members I assume you've noticed we have about 200 bills, you'll be pleased to know that we're going to adjourn subject to Introduction of the bill of Resolution so you won't have to sit through that today. Members back can I have your attention please I'm going to do some community reports very quickly and it's the attention of the chair to add on a number of those bills that are eligible, so. Yes So, alright so what I'll do is I'll start to add them, you just point out that they need an appropriation to [xx] and I'll make it and I'll tell the Body what we need to do Representatives Brown, Burr, Jones and Lambeth are recognized to send forth a committee report, the clerk will read this let me think about this for what purpose does the gentleman from Aston representative Tobit rise? Point of personal privilege Mr speaker. The gentleman recognize to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you Mr. Speaker I think on April 15th especially in this year when it takes just a moment, and if I could have the, I guess the ears of the house. The House will come to order. The gentleman from Gaston has the floor for a moment of personal privilege. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, you may or may not know if your historic matter I'm sure you do that over the last numerous years four years we've been celebrating assessment continual or remembering the events that evolved during our great civil war. On this day 150 years ago, a very momentous event occurred at 7:22 AM. One this day 150 years ago, President Abraham Lincoln succumbed to his wounds at 7:22 AM

in the Peterson House across from Ford's Theater. The great emancipator passed away in his and would stand in the sector of war stated now he belongs to the ages. 150 years ago today. I think it'd be becoming to us, Mr. Speaker, if I may, can I have just have a brief moment of silence on this day, 150 years ago, in remembrance of the passing of President Abraham Lincoln. The gentleman's request is in order the house will stand in a moment of silence. Thank you. Thank you Representative [xx] for that recognition. Members I would like, I know there going to be a couple of points of personal privilege for some of our guest so to dispose of want to make sure we do our introductions properly and then I'm going to recognize, three members advised me that we are going to do that. First of all motion of the members from the union representing this body are and who're the chairs are happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Tom Johnson who was one of the nominees for the Community College Board, [xx] if you can stand up so we can welcome you please. We are glad to have you with us today. Oh no. And Chair would like to extend the courtesies of other [xx] former Representative Annie Mabley, Annie where are you? We want to make sure we recognize you, glad to have you with us today. Our motion of representative soccer fully [xx] County. The Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Staff Sergeant Barek Collin who is a long time friend of Rep. Souka. Staff Segeant Collin served one come back toward Iraq and three come back towards Afganistan with the third range of [xx] and currently is the sound of 80 second air borne evasion Thank you for your service [xx] so we can recognize you. One motion of Rep. Brisson of Bladen County, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Dr. Robert Rich who is the medical director for community care of the Lower Cape Fear Dr. Riche if you could please stand so that we could welcome you over here to my left Our motion of representative is Goodman and Pierson[sp?] of Hope County, the chair is happy to extend the this is the gallery to the Hook[sp?] and Reinford[sp?] Commerce Leadership Group. Would you all stand so that we can welcome you as well, thank you for being with us. For what purpose does the lady from Wilson representative Farmer butter field rise? On a personal privilege. The lady from Wilson has the floor forward to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen. I am proud to hear about [xx] they have to sing with [xx], here today for the annual day at the capital tool, when I say our sovereignty I am also referring to representative Yvonne Terry Representative Bobbie Richardson and Representative Evan Holley. Delta sigma theta was founded in 1913 by 22 under graduate students at Howard University in Washington, D. C. These young women use their collective strengh to promote academic excellence and to provide assistance to people in need. This mission continues today in that I also want contenders to provide assistance and support through programs in local communities though out the world. We have grown from 22 members to over 200000 women in the world. In fact we have approximately 1000 chapters in the United States, England, Japan, Germany, Bermuda, the Virgin Islands, the Bahamas, Jamaica and the Republic of Korea. In North Carolina we have 69 chapters, please visit our website www. deltastigmathetasorority.com I am especially proud of my [xx] over hear in the gallery, and I'm sure that representative Tim Moore, our speaker shall recognize them at the appropriate time along with our hardworking staff who are also Delta's. Now you might look around and notice that representative Howard has been graced with a vase

of flowers today, and representative Burbley Earl has been graced with a vase of flowers today. You might ask why those two ladies? Well, we consider them both trail blazers as it relates to women in the North Carolina general assembly. And the fact their diligence and their legislative savvy many of us will not be here today. They have been role models and mentors for those of us women here, and [xx] indeed appreciate, celebrate and recognize you today. Thank you, thank you, thank you purpose does the lady from Wake Representative Holley rise? For a personal privilege.   Just a moment I believe the lady from Wales may be still have few comment of job began. I hate conclusions Mr. Speaker, thank you. I wanted to acknowledge representative Ross. Think I told you Monday night that she had been adopted by the [xx] but indeed she helped conceive of having women sororities from across the state of North Carolina, come together to this body, seveal years for two or three consecutive years, and that has made an impact in having sororities come to Riley to talk about legislative priorities. So today we present her flowers as will, thank you. The lady is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. First of all, I'd like to say I too I'm a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, a wonderful sorority and it means a great deal to me. And what we have as a member of Delta as you can tell that you have four of us here in the House who are members of Deltas, we are women who serve. And it's a service organization, and it has a five-point program of education development, physical and mental health, economic development, political awareness and involvement, international awareness and involvement. And Deltas all over the country have been, today are trying to talk to people and fight for the issues of the community. So I thank my Sorors for being here today, and I have great pride. Thank you. For what purpose does the lady from Franklin, Representative Richardson rise? For a point of personal privilege Mr. Speaker. The lady is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you. Many of you maybe the near you one of our major scholarship fund raising programs the Java work this is a pergion held every two years in different communities around the state I'm especially proud of this scholarship programs and that it gives young ladies an opportunity to get to know each other, to work on joint projects and to compete with others in a healthy positive environment. It also promotes leadership skills and raise money for college scholarships to those needing certain academic standards. This is we know is very much needed and I'll state today. Programs to motivate and assure they young people become educated skilled workers. The projects and programmes of delta-sigma data are two numbers to mention, but I am especially proud breakfast from our [xx] that is sponsored by the Oxis Hennesin Chapter of Delta segment data sorority incorporated, thank you. For what purpose does the lady from preside represent terrey rise? For a point for a personal prevage.   The lady has a proof for a point of personal prevage. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. I have the privilege of sharing with you the names of some of the members that you're probably familiar with or have at least Florida. Shirley Chisholm, the first Black woman member of the United States Congress was the first African-American and first woman to run as a majority party candidate for the presidency of the United States, Patricia Harris the first African- American to serve as secretary of the president's cabinet in the division of Housing and Urban Development National Council of Negro Women President and

Founder Nikki Giovanni famous poet and college professor at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg Virginia and my constituent a newly North Carolina resident Melissa Harris Perry who is currently Director most recently appointed as the Director of the pro human [xx] institute at Wake Forest University, and she also is the host of the image p program that you may see on MSMBC. So you may see that women of Delta are doing things to try to make a difference and indeed they have done so we appreciate the opportunity of us all being here today and thank you Mr. Speaker for allowing us the opportunity to tout the women of Delta sigma theta favor sorority. Members on behalf of representative former batter field Richards on holly Terran and on the entire house the chair is happy to extent the courtesys to the Gary to members of the delta sigma theta sorority could you all please stand so that we could properly welcome you, thank you. We're going to move into the community reports now some of these bills the chair will be seeking that on todays counter and the chair will note those others will not be added to todays calender. Mr speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman representative Floyd rise. Inquire with the chair.   The gentleman may state his inquire. Mr speaker as I look at the calender today at my forensic nemo vio and with the transfer cut off the ape with the third year is anyway that the Majority leader Minority leader all can get together and see how we can respect each bill sponsors so that we could meet this crossover day and have time to debate.   Is the gentleman asking about members keeping the debate short is that what the gentleman's asking the Chairman about? Some won't listen to you. Well that is, the gentleman will need to pose that question to the 118 other members sitting around to keep the debate short the Chairman will there maybe debates that get long on a particular bill and if it appears that we may want to move the question, well number one we will do so sparingly but when we do you will probably give both majority and the minority leader are heads up on those kinds of issues. The gentleman does touch on the in the gentleman aspect before session of day two that over this week and particularly next week crossed every deadline that we will have quite a large number of bills and we will probably have session late into the evening a number of days next week I would suspect to get our work done, we will also have committee meetings and so obviously if we're spending two hours on one bill, one would imagine how long we might be here on certain days. So I think  is that where the gentleman was going? Yes Sir, Mr. Speaker. Follow please. Gentleman has recognized for a follow up. I'm always a mean above to suspend the rules so that we can have the third reading at 12:01 P. M. Well why don't we deal with that is a counter case back case basis. You might be in trouble back there. I see some folks sitting around shaking their heads I don't know that if your going to be able prevail on that. Alright Reps. Brown,  Burr,  Jones and Lambeth are recognized to send forward the committee report. The clerk will read. Reps. Brown, Burr, Jones and Lambeth, Health Committee Report, house bill 447, Create Permit Exceptions Home Rental Products, Favorable, Committee Substitute, unfavorable. Original bill. Original bill is on the unfavorable calender, Committee Substitute calender. The Chair intends to add this bill to today's calender. Is there an objection against House Bill 437. Hearing none, so ordered. House Bill 355, Enhance Protection of Group Home Residents, favorable.committee Substitute, unfavorable. Original bill to re-referred to judiciary two. The unfavorable bill is placed on the unfavorable calender. The Committee substitute it has re-referable to Judiciary two. Does it need a referable appropriations, Rep. Dora? Yes.  At this time the Chair will do the serial referral to Judiciary two. one of the two gentlemen from lake consult and if it appears it needs an appropriation referral after that.

Talk to Skippen. The original bill was based on the unfavorable counter committee substitute ref-affirmed to committee on judiciary to House bill 543 amend laws pertaining to MC medical board, favorable committee substitute on favorable recent bill and we refer to finance. Recent bill is placed on the unfavorable counter committee substitute is referred to the committee on finance, Representative Jones and Luis are recognized in forth committee report [xx]   Representative Jones and Louis Election Committee report House bill 8 to restore [xx] and state why judicial elections favorable. Calender. House bill 314. It's not today, it will be countered but not today Representative Michelle, there is no election bill to be held at today's calender house bill 344 diginetorial team ticket favorable. Calender. House bill 311 ADC story election town of Luton favorable committee substitute unfavorable original bill. Original bill unfavorable counter committee substitute calender committee substitute calender. House bill 324, parents and boards of education elections favor committee substitute on favor original bill. Original bill unfavorable calender committee substitute calender. Representative Bumgardner and Sacha recognize to send forth the committee report, cooperate.   Representative Bumgardner and Sacha, house Bill 163 captive insurance amendment, favor of committee substitute and favor of reasonable bill. Original bill's placed on the unfavorable calender committee substitute calender. Is there objection to this bill being added to today's calender? Financer[sp?] order. House bill 288 ensure the technical changes -AV favor of committee substitute in favor of the original bill. Original bill iunfavorable of calender committee substitute calender is there objection to this bill added to the day's counter? Mr. Speaker, could you repeat the number of the bill? It's house bill 288, insurance technical changes. Any objection to that? Hearing none so order. Representatives Brody and McNeil co-chairs the committee on house education community college are recognize to send the forth the report the clerk will read. Members of the house Representative. Representative Mark Brody, Representative Allen Mcneil co-chair house education community colleges. Report on community college committee on state board of community college election. [xx] GS115D that's 2.1B4F the house education committee college committee met on April 14 2015. The majority of members being present and submits the following nominees and have [xx] to be considered by the house representatives for election to the State Board of Community College for membership to a six year term beginning July first 2015. Mathew Tack Johnson, Dr. Robert J. Landry, William P. Junior James [xx] Junior no additional nominees shall be received from the floor the above nominees are legally qualified to serve and are willing to serve if elected. Noted, election will be tomorrow on April 16th, and members, chair received a number of questions about how we do this, we do not actually have a joint session tomorrow. What happens is the house and the senate simply have to have the election on the same day. So we would dispose of this election tomorrow while we are in the session in the house. Represent Louise is recognized to send forth a committee report, the clerk will read. Representative Louise rules county and operations of house committee report, house bill 259 general government technical correction that's a be favorable. Calender, and the chair intends to move this bill to today's calender, is there any objection. and that's the order, Representatives Conrad, Personnel[sp?] and Rose to recognize the send forth committee report cooperate[sp?] Representatives Conrad Peronnel[xp? And Rose commerce and job development committee report house bill 318 protect North Carolina workers act favorable committee substitute [xx] referred to judiciary four original bill is placed on the unfavorable calender. The Committee Substitute is re-referred to the committee on Judiciary four. Representatives and West to recognize to send forth the committee report. The clerk will read. Reps. Malone and West, Wildlife Resources Committee Report, House Bill 574 Exclusion from Wildlife Laws, favorable. Calender, and the Chair intends to add this bill to today's calender. Is there any objection? Hearing none, so ordered House Bill 640, Outdoor Heritage Act, favorable. Calender and my understanding is that the bill sponsors wish to wait this bill not be added to today will simply calender it most likely for tomorrow in 6:40. Calender. House Resolution 665 the clerk will read.

Representative Hastings, Daltrey, West and Floyd house resolution 665, house resolution are in the state veterance by expressing their appreciation for their service to our state and nation. Johnson of North Carolina enacts. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston, Rep. Hastings, rise? To commend the adoption of the resolution, Mr. Speaker. The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. First of all thank you, Mr. Speaker, for assigning the task of preparing this resolutions to honor our veterans. It's been an honor over the last almost five years to pass many bills to become law but sponsoring this resolution is certainly one of the highest honors. As many of you know, in my early career I worked for congress, and my basic job task was to work for veterans, and I had an honor to meet the numerous men and women who served. And some didn't just merely serve they actually survive death marches or possibly even torture in the Hanoway Hilton. As many came to the office for assistance we started realizing all of these veterans couldn't be fabricating the problems that they had. In fact it was to be well know that many of their records were destroyed in a fire at the national personnel record center. And of course it's not easy to duplicate and bring together the facts of a persons career, and possibly even their injuries which we reconstruct all of the records and medical records. And as many of you know its important if someone has a service connected disability as they receive extra care and services. For instance a POW very well will get free dental care for the rest of his/her live. So knowing all of these we must continue to pay attention to our veterans and their needs. Most of the benefits are at the federal level. However Mr. Speaker we do play a vital role with veteran service officers, state cemeteries and state veterans homes. Also Mr. Speaker it's in order to mention the hardship on the families and as a personal note I can tell you when my brother-in-law was deployed to Iraq, most everyone who had a basic knowledge of Iraq knew that weapons of mass destruction had been used against the [xx] and so my sister and niece and nephew were very concerned when he was deployed to Iraq because they didn't know in what condition he would come home. So as I close Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to say as we move to make our State the most veteran and military friendly State in the nation, we can't forget our veterans or their families. I commend the resolution to the body. Members, there were a number of veterans with us watching I think most have gone over to the Senate. Without objection, the Chair may disperse the bill. I think probably a lot of other members would prefer to have the veterans here observing during this resolution. So with that objection the Chair is going to displace the resolution and when I see them come back from the Senate, we'll take it back up. Any objections there, Representative Hastings? No, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 390, the clerk will read Representative Tine, House Bill 290. A bill to be entitled an Act to Authorize the Expansion of Board of Trustees Buffalo county, community college to revive the Buffalo county community college shall serve all of Washington county general assembly of north Carolina enact To what purpose does the gentleman from Dare  Representative Tine rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a local bill about Washington County. For those of you that are not familiar with Washington County. It has one of the highest unemployment rates in the state. It also has unfortunately some of the worst scores on the K through 12 in regards to it is number one in teacher turnover in the state. So it have a lot of statistical issues inside of it's K through 12 even though they are improving and so about a year and a half ago I went to the community colleges, and I asked, why do we not have a community college president there to help with both our K through 12 and with our workforce development, and they said basically because we're dual served, we can't get the critical mass for any one community college to be able to establish a true satellite system there. So by that I

mean with the dual services, Martin Community College has the adult services, Beauford Community College has the K through 12. What I then found out was this is a debate that's been going on for the last 15 years. So I approached both community colleges, and I approached Washington County and asked how they would like to resolve it, they approached both community colleges, both community colleges arrived and said we have the plan we were ready to go, we would love to be involved, we would like to work with you to establish a satellite. There's an existing building that they'd like to occupy and they said we would deliver to you at least what you're getting right now and we'll start to work to expand services. Unfortunately Martin Community College did not show to the meeting with the county they missed the first meeting due to the ice and snow, two subsequent meetings apparently due to illness but didn't send anybody else and then did not respond to an offer to meet by telephone. Unfortunately this reinforce perception within the county that they will not be served they way they wanted to by Martin Community College, for example the emergency services are actually being taught at both community college they have to travel there because Martin College is not providing services as they were supposed to be. The Martin Community College also declined to teach the classes at the North East region of School of Biotechnology in agri-business but for community college again stepped in for this one. Unfortunately, Morton County actually asked for 50% of the FTEs even though they weren't actually providing the classes. Two years the chamber did a poll of their members, 68.2% this is the local chamber said they want one community college 71% said say buffer community college and 28% said Modern community college, so Washington county gave unanimous resolution asking that only one community college service them in a B buffer community college. This bill is not about Mordern community college or Buffer community college. This bill is about Washington County and their need for a single strong proactive partner in Washington county I urdge your support of the bill. For what purpose does the gentlemen from Arshcken Representative Wilingharm rise? Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Is kind of difficult to respond to representative Tem just told you that I just told you but I can say to you that probably the statistics that I gave you about Washington County you can take those some statistics and they will apply to modern county so I agree with on that but the other things he said is just not accurate. First thing is that I represent Martin County, and I have had no knowledge that this local bill that was introduced until it was over. It was introduced, and I found out about it right before a committee meeting. So I had no knowledge of that. Also the Martin County Community College people said that they had no knowledge of what was going on either. So what has happened here there is a [xx] assigned to the two colleges. Martin County had half of Washington County and Beauford County had half. Well what Beauford County is asking for is to take that half that Martin County has to themselves. As I understand it Beauford College has about 2, 000 students Martin County has about 1000. Martin County as I said before is one of the poorest county in the state unemployment is high for take those [xx] away from Morton County. What will be the effect of that? Well, what you have is a loss of teaching positions, you have a loss of programs that's being presented in that college and you have a lose of students. So what we're going on this, we are giving, we're taking from one to get to another, taking from those who don't have to give to those who do have and and suspect of the [xx] that the chamber is the one who had the emphasis to look at the cam and say, we need to have one college represent us, because the committee college is the one who decided, the service area, not the chamber. So I hope that but there are two or three other situations like that mistake. This figure. So, I would does the gentleman from Mecklenburg Representative Jeter rise? See if the gentleman [xx] for

a quick question Does the gentleman from Edge can be owe to the gentleman from Mecklenburg? Yes He owes It seems like to me this is a Washington County bill, do represent Washington County? No I don't represent Washington County but it's a bill affects martin [xx] because if it's local then it affects those people who are involved. Martin [xx] takes care of half of Washington county since I do represent those people who attend Manhattan county community college, and as I was saying as the legislatures, I don't know if we have the right or to take away from people and get to others at our will and I think is his work where it seems to be happening in this case because the effect on Modern community college will be devastating and and I think if Martin College community college didn't get this have, I don't think they would have any effect on them I think they will be fine, but were not Martin college is not be fine and so if you pass this bill the way it is, what you have is a you're destroying community college. So I would hope that you will be very serious about this because this could happen to your school. Those of you who have community colleges that have service areas and other counties, this could possibly happen to you. So I would ask you to please think about that before you vote for this bill and one of thing we should do is to make the senate to set a committee or something let them see what they are affecting, what can we do if that had to happen. What could we do to Marin County continue to survive but I think this is a bad bill in way it's being presented, so I ask you not to support it thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from [xx] representative Grey arrives to see if representative time would yield for possibly several questions.  Does the gentleman [xx] Absolutely thank you Mr. Speaker thank you representative, so there are clearly are local components to this but I also think there appears to be a state board component, and I went on the committees and I'm just asking was just asking Representative Vinsco[sp?] as well. First question, has the state board taken a position one way or the other? No the state board is not taking the position they were consulted in regards to the language of the bill to make sure that we did things properly on the way through. Second question Mr. Speaker.  does the gentleman yield to additional question? Absolutely  yields  thank you Mr. Speaker, thank you Representative, in the consultation with the board and the president, what is what have they said informally and I recognize they haven't taken formally about their view of the substance, and as important apparently the process of this happening. So it wasn't with the board and the president, it was with their staff in regards to making sure that we drafted in the appropriate manner. I don't know that I feel comfortable since they didn't take official position in regards to what they said privately to myself on the way there, I'd be happy for you to ask him and for them to publicly respond to that, but I don't know that I feel comfortable with that I will say that the official position is consistent, which is no position, was consistent with our interactions that we had. Thank you Mr. Speaker For what purpose does lady from Orange, Representative Insko rise? To speak on the bill. Lady has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker ladies and gentlemen of the house the problem that I have with this bill is that I, it's my responsibility as an elected official to make sure that our community college system is healthy, and that counties that our students in all the counties have access to a community college. I don't know what will happen to the modern community college and I don't know as a result of that whether those that population will be served. I would like to see this made into a study bill. I don't really oppose the initial outcome, what I want to know is how a week is going to take care of citizens that live in [xx] by the modern community college, so that will be my recommendation that's some how we make this a steady bill come back in January make a decision then. For what purpose does the gentleman from Dale[sp?] Representative Tyrone rise? To debate to bill a second time. Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill a second time. Thank you sir, in response to a couple of things that have been said already, I am looking at an email where I did inform the representatives and I should have done it before I dropped the bill.

There is no doubt about that and for that I publicly apologize to you for not contacting you before hand. But long before the bill was heard in committee yesterday, I have an email and I'm looking at it right here, that was on 1st April, that said I apologize for not talking to you before I dropped the bill but I'm happy to talk with you about it further. So just to clear that up since it was presented that you didn't know about it and I didn't let you know. I have the email and I'm willing to share it with anybody that would like to see as far as the health of marketing community college. If they were providing all the services that they have been asked to provide, to Washington County previously and they were in need of funds and they were having a hard time to continue to move forward I will be concerned as well because all this in North Carolina is going to rise together for funding up. The problem is this $2.5 million of the last two years, that they did use and send it back to the state, so it certainly seems that they have economical worthwhile to be able to sustain this change. So, I would be concerned as well but again this is not about marketing community college. Washington County community college and it seems that one side of the isle has been the one that's upset with this bill, Washington county is all Democratic commissioners. They gave a unanimous resolution asking that we have Harford community college service their community. That is what this bill it was about Washington County is not there to serve modern community college, our community college are there to serve Washington County. Who has purpose does the gentleman from Representative Willingham rise. Speaker's second turn. The gentleman has the forward to debate the bill a second time. Representative Tom has an email that he sent me and if you read the rest of email, and I have email him right back and said I want to meet him right ways and of course he didn't have time to do that so, I just want to clear it up. The other thing yes the college [xx] their money back, so the college is being punished for being inefficient. They are not in a habit if they have any money left  so they will go ahead and try to spend everything just because they say we spend it, there was no complains their cheque will be Community College to see if there were any complaints about the services that were being provided in Washington county, they were none I had no idea so this came out of the blue, nobody knew anything. So I'm just saying to you that again I feel real I'm passionate about this I believe that when you do this to a county that's in this situation that Marin County is I think you are really doing a disservice. so I implore you deep deep really deep think about which you are doing and we can delay this I mean I to agree that if this was sent then let him study it and if he comes back to say that the best thing is that Washington county goes completely both for it I would not have any problem with that. But this is something that some other people who are not in the education with totals and came up with, now if he come to me and say that a study was done and it showed impractically that Washington county would better of with both then I would be finding this I'd be supporting it but that's not the case. So I ask you to think about it you cast the vote, thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Craven representative Speshali[sp? Rise? To see if the gentleman from Dire who would yield the floor for question. Does the gentleman for Dire, yell to the gentleman from Cryben? Yes sir. He yelled. Did I understand you to say that you got a request from Washington County commissioner wish to do this? Yes sir, this has been going on for 15 years in Washington County commissioner has finally said yes, we would like to therefore have one it's both for the community college. Thank you. Speak on the bill, the gentleman form Cryben has the floor to debate the bill. This to me is an easy one. I represent a portion half of those for county, though for county and communal college is a robust college, they have energy, they have maybe has have more resources but the bottom line is that they can handle this, they're willing to do it, it simplifies things, there is no question about where will I go it's a local bill ladies and gentleman, and the county commissioners asked for this, the bill does what they ask them to do, the bill does what the community college is willing to do, so I ask for your support on this bill. For what purpose does the

gentleman from Onslow Representative Shepherd rise?  Mr speaker to ask question of Representative Tom.  Does the gentlemen from Daryl yield to the gentlemen from Onslow? Yes sir. He yields. Representative Tom, is it true that Mart community college has a campus in Bertie County and also in Martin County, but do they have a campus in Washington County? 1989 they brought two mobile units to Broper, that's where they operate their classes when they have classes Follow up  Does the gentleman yield to a second question?  Yes sir. He yields. And if I understood correctly in committee, you said that Broper community college had indicated that they would also operate a campus at Washington county, right? Yes, there is a brick and motor building that is unoccupied currently called Winners Of The World and they would like with Washington county in order to occupy that on full time bases provide both thanks sir. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, representative Greyson rise? To debate the bill Mr. Speaker. Thank you Mr. Speaker, mu comments are going to be brief and I am sorry for representative Tony and representative Willingham that this feud had to come to the floor, and that's my frustration, my comments really aren't going to directed on the [xx] but I'm looking at what we're ordering, we are ordering the state board of community college as the designated particular area, why this sever had to come here is really the question that we ought to be asking, this is quite essentially a community college board, and an administrative function, and if there is a function, they should have resolved it and the fact that it may make one county mad and the other county happier or vice versa, it's beside the point. State has come to the floor of house of representatives, when it should have been resolved by the State Board and it should have been resolved by the President of the Community College and I know sometimes they don't want to take and no one wants to take positions between colleges and counties but you know that's what they are appointed and elected to do, and I think this is an example that we're being forced to make a decision that should have been made other places and they aggregated their responsibility and pondered it here and I hope that does never happen again. Thank you. Further discussion, further debate if not the question before the house, here's the passage of House Bill 390 on its second reading. Those in favor will vote I, those opposed will vote no. The court will open the vote. Court will lock the machine and record the vote. 82 having voted in the affirmative and 36 in the negative. House Bill 390 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. Objection. Objection was late but the Chair will accept the motion that the Bill be carried over to tomorrow first counter without objection. So order the the Bill be moved to tomorrow's counter for third reading. Members I noticed the veterans have returned so we're going to go back to House Resolutions. 665 which has been previously read, members wishing to debate the Honors State Veteran's Resolution for what purpose does the gentleman from [xx] Representative Floyd rise. To speak on the Resolution Mr. Speaker. The gentleman has forwarded the debate to Resolution. Members I just simply want to call you to section two of the resolution when some of our members gave all and the State of North Carolina has provided for our cemeteries throughout about two or three in Cumberland County our community center at that particular point in time was open today with the help of a grant from the state of $125000 the community raised over $350000 that community center today is no longer open it's closed in, and it have heat and air for our veterans and one has passed away they no longer have to spend in the cold nor they have to stand in the heat. I'm proud of this great state for providing that money and making our community center which we could not build one because of funding, but we were able to do this so I commend the resolution to you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Horn rise? To debate the resolution. The gentleman has the floor to debate the resolution. Thank you Mr. Speaker ladies and gentlemen I was not going to speak but I couldn't help but think as I looked up into the gallery. We have, on one side here we have our veterans. Young people all of them actually at one point wrote a cheque signed their name cheque made out

to the United States of America and the amount was their lives. They put their lives on the line so that you young people could enjoy the fruits of being here and then seeing how government works, and listening to debate. I was one of those guys on the line at one point, and I get a little emotional about this kind of stuff, but it just seem to me particularly to look up into the gallery and see the young folks here, and these not so young folks over here, and I know that when I went overseas in 1963, not all the guys I wanted to see with K loan, and I went back overseas again in 1967 and again not all of them came home and some came home in pieces and parts and I want you to know what these guys did for you and what they've done for us and how proud we are down here to be serving you and them and our state. So to our veterans, thank you very much God bless you too. These young people, thank you because you're coming up. I'm looking io you to keep me safe, keep this country strong and keep our independent on keeps as all going. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston Representative Bumgardner rise? To debate the Resolution. The Gentleman has the floor to debate the Resolution. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to stand at the day and say a word about an interesting event that happened in my district a week ago, a young man's remains came home from Vietnam and 45 years and there was a story in the Gestonio  gazette and the Charlotte Observer you may have seen it on the news but this young man's name was Bungent[sp?] Price Junior they called him Junior drafted into the army in 1969 went to Vietnam was on a helicopter that was shot down and then according to the people that are still here it took 45 years for the army needs to find his remains and get him returned to his family off course for that time his parents were gone but his brothers and sisters were still here and they had a very nice ceremony in Gestonio last week and such were honoring friends, I think this man's name needed to be mentioned, and we needed to thank him for his service and if there is something else we can do I'd be glad to do that, but it's not over till everybody is accounted for, and for 45 years, his family all they knew was that he was a PO [xx] wouldn't that be a tough thing to live with? But they finally got some closure, and now he was buried in a grave with two other soldiers that were killed because the [xx] attacked the helicopter after it went down. hTey all survived but apparently they had a skirmish, there was a grave with three soldiers, three American soldiers and they were all finally identified and now, later this year I understand their remains are going to be transferred to Lincoln Cemetery, so it's a a tough ending, it's a sad story, but the family finally got some closure on it and he needed to be mentioned, thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Lake representative Penilton rise? Mr. Speaker a point for a personal privilege please. The gentleman is recognized to does the gentleman wishing to debate the resolution? Well a supported resolution.  Very well. I would like to request if you'll be okay with you then all of the veterans in this room, stand face to the right and lean to our heads salute fellow veterans show the commanders is that okay.  The gentleman is recognized. Alright that's on move feet move. Okay let's give him a big salute. What purpose does the gentleman from Lake representative Martin rise? To the Banks resolution. The gentleman has the forward to debate the resolution.

I think the demonstration that shows that we need to do a little work or agree on ceremony, so pressed us, general penalty and our master ourselves out back after we adjourn. Members every years the Veterans Lobby Day is one of my favorite days, it's not just because it's a chance to talk about how bad the army food is or to tell jokes about the airforce, but I look forward to it every year because it's a chance for me to renew my feelings about why I do this job. we're all here, all 120 of us exercising the democratic rights of our constituents and our citizens, and when you've been here a while it's all to easy to get a little bit too casual about that, but every year when dozens and dozens of folks who show up, who have paid a price to defend that right, it reminds me of my obligation to take that right seriously. The gentleman from Union addressed his remarks to the young folks up in the gallery up there, but I had addressed mine to the 120 folks, old and some not quite as well down here, to use this Veterans Day to renew our commitment to service. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Lucas rise? To speak briefly on the resolution. The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. Thank you Mr. Speaker, just occured to me that as we're celebrating and commemorating our veterans, of a news report that heard last night and again this morning, that there's a movement foot to remember that drastic day, December 7th, 1941 when habor was attacked and the USS Arizona in [xx] since all that time and more than 400 Britsh sailors there is an attempt now to identify these sailors. It's been there all this time only just a few have been identified, and so I'm just happy to know that we might be in the process of identifying some of these remains, thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Brawley rise? To debate the resolution. The gentleman has the full debate resolution. My seat mate kind of gotten me to action. Ladies and gentlemen queens Collins he's retired Air force he's in Charlotte, he shows up for a lot of veterans events. Colonel Collins has a dubious distinction of having been a guest of the North Thienthics[sp?] and the Henry Hilton for six and half years, the last of which his cell mate John McCaine. When he speak Cornel Collins has a speech that he makes to all assembled, it apply to the veterans and the young people as well. To be born into freedom is an accident, to live in freedom is privilege, to die in freedom is a duty. What he is saying to you the young is you've been given a gift that as you grow older you'll realize how precious and rare on this earth that it yes, and what he is saying to my brothers in arms without hair of grey and ladies I apologize you have done your duty to assure that we die in freedom, thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Qataber Representative Adams rise? To speak on the resolution. The gentleman has the floor to debate the resolution. With all due respect I just wanted the fact that, quency colon from my home town of Concord, this also a graduate of Sedeble, when I was at Sedeble[sp?] my freshman year, there was some very dark moments, and one of those particular moments I was going backwards and didn't really realize it an upper class man came into my room. An upper class man by the name Jay yu Banks[sp?]. If you read any of park invoice the best one is the last one. My loosing season and he mentions the rack, the rack was the manager of the basketball team and that will show you Banks. He served most decorated in Vietnam and I never got to thank him for that day that he turned

me around because he was killed [xx] before I graduated so this bill is my thanks to show you Banks the rack and he was a great young fellow and I just hate that I have to stand and remember him this way I wish I could thank him first. Thank you.   For what purpose does the gentleman from Transylvania Transylvania please know that you're greatly appreciated by all of us and I salute you. Further discussion for the debate, for what purpose does the lady Randof representative Harley rise? To debate the resolution. The lady has the floor to debate the resolution. My daddy was in the Russian marines in World War Two he came home safe thank the Lord. As so many as we know today were recognized in the gatebill. The Russian marines were not recognized as part of the on forces until 1988 when they were arresting that and I have got thank you for your service over here I was further discussion further debate if not is the passage of house resolutions of 665 those in favor will vote I those oppose vote No the court will open the vote clerk unlock the machine and record the vote.  118 having voted in the affirmative and non in the negative.  The resolution is adopted and is ordered printed.  Members please join me in again welcoming and thanking our veterans who are with us today in the gallery. Thank you for being with us in the service Members while we're also recognizing I want to mention and a few other guests we have. We have a group here from the Rugby Middle School in Hendersonville North Carolina. If you're all in please stand, glad to have you here with us today. I believe your Representative would be Representative McGrady who is right here with holding his hand up, he is your representative here in the state house. Our motion of Representative Dickson the Chair is happy to extend the courtesy of the gallery to two very special guest, his daughter Jennifer Edwards and his granddaughter Elizabeth Edwards if you're all in please stand so we can welcome you. Over to more rise at the end. And our motion of the lady from Mecklenburg representative [xx] the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the Gallery to Courtney the temple director of the Providence Preparatory School [xx] where representative Cotham's children attend, would you please stand so that we can welcome you as well. We've had to request to suspend rule 12D. Actually we've been in session more than an hour so if and drink on up mended on the floor. Ratification of bill and resolution, the Clerk will read. t The following bill duly ratified in presentation to the government. House bill 140 an act designated to 18th of April 2015 and the second day of April of each year day after Islamic Appreciation Day.   Chuck of the bills will be noted. Members the notion of the day is with us now Steven [xx] from [xx] North Carolina, thank you for being with us sir. Continuing with the calendar, house bill 393, the cope -read. Representative Brest, house bill 393 a bill to be to entitled in act to change the matter

of the selection of members of the trial County community college board of trustee. General [xx] of no clan elect. For what purpose does the gentleman from Chunky representative of the West rise? To debate the bill Mr. Speaker. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, member of the house, what this bill will do it will take four appointments to the track County Community College Board they would take them from the Chunky County Board of Education here under the Chunky County commissioners to reschedule forward. Further discussion further if not, the question before the house is the passage of house 393 on its second reading, those in favor will vote I, those oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. Court will lock the machine and record the vote. 110 having voted in the affirmative and 1 in the negative. House Bill 393 passes its second reading and will that objection you read the third time General Assembly [xx] further discussion, further debate if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 393 on it's third reading Those in favor will say I, those who oppose will say No, the I's have it. House Bill 393 passes its third reading will be sent to the Senate. Representative [xx] time notice the gentleman as the vote was being closed with the gentleman present when the question was [xx]? [xx] [xx] will be recorded as having voted aye representative Tine will record as having voted aye. Representative Collins and [xx] recognize to send fourth committee report clerk read. Representative Carl from London state personnel committee report House Bill 54 counter [xx] favorable [xx] rule 38 House bill 54 is referred to the committee on appropriations. Representatives Blackwell, Brian and Shepherd recognize the sent forth committee report to Corporal Reed. Representatives Blackwell, Brian and Shepherd Judicial full committee forth House Bill 561 School System Authorization, legal proceedings, federal committee substitute on favoritism of bill. [xx] unfavorable calender. made himself to two calendar, chair entailes to have the builded in this calendar's objection, hearing none so order. House bill 529 [xx] drive us in rise restoration act federal committee substitute in favor of original bill will be forwarded to finance. Original bill based on the unfavorable account of the committee substitute is referred to the committee on finance house bill 356 clerk will read. Representative is up Collins Warren house bill 356 the bill to be entitled on it clarified a cap of your children's regulatory fee reserved to set regulatory fee in stature and to allow commission to raise or lower a fee general assembly of North Carolina in it. Further discussion further debate, if not questions for the house is the passage of house bill 336 on it's third reading. Those in favor will vote I, those oppose will No,  The clerk will open the vote. Clock working machine records the vote 115 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, House bill 356 passes it's third reading will be sent to the senate. House bill 108 the Clerk will read. Representative Stem, [xx] Miss. Martin, house bill 108 availed to the entitlement act to create a fund to provide loans to local government units for the development of sites and buildings [xx] of North Carolina NX. Representative Stem does the gentleman wish to allow the amendments to be learn first before debating o ladies and gentlemen wish to debate the bill first? I would like to ask representative Black Wills amendment to be heard first? For what purpose does the gentleman from Buck representative Black [xx] arise? To send forth an amendment. The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment the Clerk will read. Representative Black Will moves to amend the bill on page 2 between lines 47 and 48 by inserting the following between the lines. The gentleman from Buck has the floor to debate the amendment Thank you Mr. Speaker I appreciate the concurring in this amendment I hope I'm correctly stating that, basically the amendment says 30% of the funds that there is a limit of 30% of the funds used under this program for tear free counties bulk of the funds go to 21 and 2 which economic

need is greatest there and has the house support for it for the remainder of the ammendment for what purpose does the gentleman from Lake representative Stem rise? To speak on the amendment. The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. The sponsors are comforted and have agreed to support the bill on page 29, 35 and 36 or it states that there has to be preference for rural or less developed areas of the and that's why we didn't want a provision in 203 or put a preference which [xx] has quantified I do want to remind you that they are areas in two three counties that are very poor for example Brunswick County, Moore county many others so I believe that his amendment addresses the problem without unduly restricting the department of commerce. Further discussion, further debate on this amendment if not the question before the house is the passage of amendment 17 sent by Representative Blackwell that in favor will vote I, those oppose will vote non the corporate open the vote. Clerk will lock the machine record the votes 116 having voted in the affirmative and non in the negative the amendment is adopted. For what purpose does the gentleman from  Alamance, representative [xx] rise? Mr speaker send forth the amendment. The gentleman is recognized to send forth the amendment the clerk will read. Representative [xx] to amend a bill on page one through three which changes the time by writing the lines to read.   The gentleman from Almass[sp?] has the floor to debate the amendment. Tank you Mr. Speaker very briefly friends this does is eliminate on page two line A about the new buildings and building renovations at least in place the genuine infrastructure elements of water lines, sewer lines and other utility improvements, roads grading signage and other access improvements, measures necessary for permitting and including services and finally services and any other measures necessary for the land to be remarkable excluding buildings. My concern here is not that we are providing loans for infrastructure to Municipalities and rural areas, that's fine. My concern is that we're getting into the real estate business again. as a state government, I do not think that we should be extending our self continuously into additional programs that are going to create obligation for us a state in light of what we're looking at with certain budget limitations coming up. Now it's one thing to provide for sewer utility lines, it's another thing to build a building for a locality or to provide the means and the [xx]. I think eliminating the building provision will ensure that localities are serious about these developments that they will have a little extra skin in the game but being responsible for their own buildings, [xx] did a significant incentive program, we've done [xx] we have got some other things on the books currently still coming our way of incentives and other devices to encourage rural development, how far are we going to go, how much do we have to as a state and I'm afraid that we are going create some dependency on local rural area to the state instead of them looking, maybe to do more than themselves and try to get them self to where they need to be, so again this is not eliminating what I consider to be genuine infrastructure of the sewer line, power lines road signage things like that it's simply getting the state out of the real estate business, thank you for what purpose does lady from Wilson representative [xx]. To debate amendment. The lady has the amendment. Thank you Mr speaker, we had a very similar amendment come through [xx] committee, which we voted down and I would urge the members to reject this amendments a lot of what we do is infrastructure portion and a [xx] ready side but many of our community have advantage of the self building and both Wilson on state county and Wilson particular have very effectively utilize it's fund but say that not every community has the resources to do it, again this is loan that if money is appropriated into program which will depend on our the budget, so this will be policy in place if there is money in budget goes toward it, so it's not a commitment and its a loan to our local communities. It's kind of a shell building it's not all outfit and all of that staff, but many of the companies who are looking to locate are wanting to know how quckly they can get up and running and this would pretty much cut the deal so I

would urge members to reject this amendment please. Thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Columbus representative [xx] rise, Speaking on the amendment. The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house I echo what representative Wilson said basically because you are tying the hands if yo disallow these folks to apply for loans from commerce, you're tying their hands, alow these folks that come into these counties, especially rural counties or small when representative [xx] made a comment about, we have [xx] funds available sure we did but those JD funds used to go to larger employers, we need to be have this things ready in this rural areas, till one till two and even in 2 or 3 counties known as the press area. So I would urge you to vote against this amendment.  For what purpose does the gentlemen from Klevin [xx] speak on the bill,  the gentleman has afforded to make the amendment, if this pretty much gets the bill then I'm [xx] I'm just being honest with you. I think if we're going to spend money and we're going to help them let's help them get the infrastructure and everything but putting up the building, come on, to say that they can't afford to do a [xx] and everything else they should bill to put up the shell building if that's what they need or at least if the infrastructure is in place to get some companies to look at it and say here is the infrastructure everything is done you just need to put up your little building there and we can move forward so I think it's a good amendment and I think it's a good compromise. For what purpose does the gentleman from Waik representative Stem rise? To speak on the amendment.   The gentleman has afforded to make the amendment. Mr. Speaker I ask you to not agree to the amendment I put on your desk information that I received from the [xx] Developers Association. The problem is the estimated by the great recession. Most of the people make inquiries to local [xx] development, groups or [xx] development groups specify that they want to see a building. If there is that building in a county they don't even go visit, if they go visit they may they're not like that building they'll build something else so they'll find out how fast they can build because our building rules are faster than some other states. I understand the amendment, this bill has been through a dozen or more drafts and I think probably in the first two, three, or four drafts it did not have buildings in it. But the reason it's in it now is because we listened to the professionals in the field, the economic developers, and they say this is what's necessary to draw people there to actually see something. It is not, let me emphasize, this program is not a grant, a tax credit, a giveaway, it is a secured loan. For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash, Representative Collins rise? To see if Representative Stam would yield for a question. Does the gentleman from Wake yield to the gentleman from Nash?  I do. He yields. Representative Stan something you said just kind of jogged my memory a little bit. If these companies are looking for buildings before they will come in my area for instance, the dozens of idle what used to be manufacturing plants and sowing plants and all these kinds of things, does this count as building that this folks will be willing to look at?   I would say generally not and the reason is rehabbing old buildings, which only takes longer than building a new one and because of the recession, people they make a business decision that they want to move, but they make that decision later in the process so when they are ready to move, they want to do it a lot faster and get going. They are not willing to put up with a year of permitting and rehabbing. So I hope that answers your question push.  One follow up does the gentleman from Wake deals through the second question from the gentleman from Nash. I yield. He yields. With the money, with the loans that this this fund would provide would it allow counties to municipality to every face so desired to take all this old building and repair them so that they could could be used by companies who want to yes. For what purpose does the gentleman

from Penda, representative Miller rise? To speak on the amendment. The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. I feel all kind of things on the floor today about this amendment let me point point out some things that I just read in the bill. It says that this provision is only going to allow show buildings if you read the bill it says new buildings renovations to buildings, and up filding buildings are part of the definition of qualified business facilities, so it just not about share building. I pulled the aspect representative Sterm, this is not a loan, this is not a subsidy, this is not grant. You were by giving 0% interest loans, no problem no return to the state 0% interest loan. Ladies and Gentlemen it's one thing to take public monies for public infrastructure, but you're going to build a bunch of buildings that businesses may not want. If a company comes into a site ready industrial area that has been provided by way of this program of public infrastructure, fine they can customize their own building. If it was even a provision here to speak about shelter buildings and have a code and code kind of model home that has one on the corner to start that's one thing, but that's is not what the bill does. The bill allows any aspect of buildings, it allows renovation of existing buildings, it creates all these aspects of proponents of this bill in regard to preserving a new building, it actually did what it said it would do, I'd be supportive of it, but it doesn't in addition it says this new building it was later added through numerous drafts this is a repeat of a bill that was done last session that Representative [xx] but actually had new buildings in it when it came to committee last session, this is not a new aspect that has been added, it is a repeat of old beams. I would ask you to support this amendment, let's get back the public infrastructure for public monies what purpose does the Gentleman from Allman Representative Rhodora.  speak on the amendment Mr. Speaker. The Gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment a second time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker very briefly friends this is not to gut anything this is simply designed to put some fences some boundaries in place with what we do with economic development, you think of how many dozens upon dozens of programs we have currently in place right now through out the state that are incising[sp?] economic development is quite a few out there my concern is that what we have already out there does not right now have enough transparency and accountability and metrics in place to measure their success and yet we're going to add another program, these are below market rate interest loans to localities that are going to be subsidized by  everbody in North Carolina. Do we want to add another program we still leave in place the sewage, utility, signage road kind of infrastructure are not gutting the bill were simply saying the building component, the real estate component needs to stay with the locality so please urge your support for the amendment thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from [xx] representative Adam rise? To debate the amendment. The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. Just looking at this amendment makes me recall the fact that in the late 1980's we had industrial developers in my area of the state. In other words these guys would go out and build 20000, 30000, 40-80000 square foot buildings and since they got a tenant they go out and start planning the next one, and what they wanted were the elements in this amendment. But when the first municipality decided that they were going to build an industrial park, all for this gentleman quickly retired. The reason being they said we can't afford to make the kind of mistakes the municipality can make. He said there are no industrial developers where I live. There is the EDC, there are people who try to shepherd businesses in places and into buildings, but I'm just thinking about this folks government has gotten too involved in industrial development, and what it does is it jeopardizes the pro forma that private people use to do this kinds of development, thank you. For what progress does the gentleman from Pearson representative [xx] rise? To debate the amendment The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment As I said yesterday shell building are worthy the economic developers tell up four counties that they need and that's what this bill is about by removing the buildings you're basically removing the bill the counties need help with this shell buildings the old cotton mills and the furniture factories don't work because the ceilings aren't high enough and it cost too much to refurbish them,

so poor counties need this help and would appreciate your help by not doing this amendment. Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question the passage of amendment two sent forth by representative Rydel those in favor will vote aye those oppose will vote no, the court will open the vote clerk rock the vote records the vote 43 having voted in the affirmative and 73 in the negative the amendment fails, we are now back on the bill. Further discussion, further debate? For what purpose does the gentleman from Brunswick, Representative Iler rise? Slight miscalculation I meant to vote no on the amendment. The gentleman will be recorded as having voted no on gthe amendment, for what purpose does the lady from Surry, Representative Stevens rise? To see if Representative Sam will yield for a question. Does the gentleman from Lake yield to the lady from Suide. I yield. Okay thank you representative Stem I couldn't see anything in the bill about how much money we're looking at so this is apparently underfunded at this point, how much money will it take? Well to get by the Executive Budget Act it appropriates no money, it has what we call the loyal amendment on it. When the bill was originally filed we were asking 400, 000 for the first year for the planning money, if you'll recall the commerce is required to have a strategic plan so they're just not giving out money left and right the appropriate amount years down the road would be about 15-20 million a year, I was told by the Economic Developers that there were plenty of other accounts in commerce that the money could be redirected to this and be of more use to what they do than the current accounts, but that's for another day, that's for Appropriations Committee, but that's the magnitude of what we're talking about and of course its's a revolving fund so as money is paid back you will have those monies as well. For what purpose does the lady from Surry, desire further comment, or? If I could speak briefly on the bill. The lady from Surry has the floor to debate the bill Thank you Mr. Speaker and I know if everybody's town is like mine, we've been a tier three, we have a lot of buildings. We've done industrial parks attempting to get businesses there and we have a lot of empty show buildings right now. We have some that lead up dating but we've some that are perfectly good. Just because you build it does not mean they will come. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Brawley rise? To ask Representative Stan if he would yield for a question Does the gentleman from Wake yield to the gentleman from Mecklenburg? I do. He yields. Thank you sir, you used the phrase royal amendment, and I was wondering would you either define that or tell me which page of the Magna Carter contains the definition. This is a little bit of institutional memory that only representative Mitchel and maybe representative Howard might remember and representative Luky but the guy who was actually in charge of North Carolina for about 10 years was named and Royall, who is the Deputy President of the Senate and he Invented this technique, so it's called the Royal Amendment, where you can get your policy out on the floor to be debated separately in advance of the budget itself, if people complain about policy in the budget.  So it's Royall with two LL.  His son by the way is Gerry Royall who's a great friend of many of ours. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, representative Bishop rise? To ask representative Stam a question. Does the gentleman from Wake yield to the gentleman from Mecklenburg? I do yield. Representative I was surprised, you gave a quantification in response to representative Steven's inquiring about how much money it would take. How many empty buildings do the economic developers say we should build or fund? Well, first of all it will not, hopefully it's not going to be all buildings, a lot of it could be paired ready sites but in some places where there are none, it might be a building, but just because you have it here it doesn't mean its there. I'm going to guess 40 or 50 counties in North Carolina with nothing acceptable for a company that wants to come in in 2015. Follow up Mr. Speaker.

I yield. He yields. Is it anticipated or is it deemed by the folks who are advising economic developers that we ought to build or building or make a patent ready in each one of these 40 or 50 counties that don't have one? No, that's why, this is why this bill is an improvement on the existing situation which is the counties and cities can go out and borrow commercially for the he says, they can do it now. The problem is, one problem, some of just don't have enough money or buying problem, the second problem problem is in that way sometimes things get built just because uncle Joe needs to sell a farm, but here it'll be based on the strategic plan, put together every four years by the department commerce and prioritized so that it'll go the where it's needed the most. There is constant debate in this house how we have to help the rural, semi-rural areas. That's the entire focus of this bill is to do this in the places where it is needed. It is not needed in your district, is probably not needed in mine but there are 50 county radius. One more question Mr. Speaker.   Does the gentleman yield to the final question. I yield. Yields representative Stem you've indicated that the availability of a lean the statement will have a lean to make this program better than some others that have been suggested but I was mindful of reminded of story of the Carolina journal about May of 2008 Governor Evelyn in order to [xx] spirit air systems to come to the global transport convince the state to build 6 mile alone of rail roads for line for $24 million it has never been used. If we have a linen in building instead of in build that there is no purpose for for work, is any reason we have to get our money back, you have the security interest, but whether be any value is the only reason to believe that the value out of which to recover the states money? I appreciate the question, this is why this is much better model then the global transport and the spirit, that money was just given hundreds of millions of dollars given here since the asset of the economic development cooperation on the line, and the property and the improvement stand against the debt, it is much less likely, I would say, impossible but much less likely that the tax payer through the [xx] will suffer loss. For what purpose does the lady from Wilson representative Martin rise? To debate the bill second time Mr speaker. The lady has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, members AI think is important to understand that we are operating hopefully in partnership with our communities, and we are not dictating that every community would use every one of the tool we make available, but what we need to have is a tool box that will work for each local area to come and say, I can use this JJ fund and I have the right opportunity and let me take advantage of that or one and see is the right thing for my community, and in well some have a shell building if we have one shell building at a time and a lot of time the a man and they look and they don't like that, but they're there and then they'll build a different, and it's not until it's placed that they think they need to have some other component, and maybe it is an update. So this places in the [xx] community that have a lot of empty buildings, they are not going to use this pool, and we're not going to say everybody gets the money and come and apply, and what makes sense in partnership, and hopefully you have faith that you have a good return. And then I just wanted to share with you, seems like we could use a little comedy, that Skip called me over the weekend to discuss a different bill, and I was in the car, and I announced rightaway, you are on speaker with my kids in the car, and just to make sure, and we talked about a different bill, and I said, well this isn't good, and since I worked on house bill 117, this is an important tool in a toolbox, there is a lot of different tools. I said, well, I'm not giving up on that, that the senate is going to work on it maybe we can roll this into suit of economic development tool, since it gives it around, I don't know, that won't be the first time that I haven't voted for my own bill if it comes back in the package you didn't like, and my daughter said why won't you vote for your own bill? And I said, well think about it like that we're over here voting on the ingridients for a mill, and a majority of us voted for strawberries, so

we send strawberries over, and then another majority voted for flodelegs, but not the same people but more than half, so we send that over to the kitchen and they came back and say, here is what you're going to get, you're going to get strawberries inflogre cake, and then we get to just say yes or no, like we'll take it or we wont take it, and that is how we can wind up with this in the packing, so please open the bill. Write the debate on For what purpose does the gentleman from Craiven represent a specialty rise? To speak on the bill. Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Well, keep hard that the county when some of the counties don't have money to deal with [xx] and that's why we're doing it. I just want to remind everybody that we don't have the money either further discussion further debate, if not the question for the house I s the passage of the house bill 108 on it's third reading in favor will vote Aye, those opposed will vote No, the court will open the vote. the Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 90 having voted in the affirmative and 25 in the negative. House Bill 108 passes its third reading, the amendment sorted and engrossed[sp?] and the bill will be sent to the Senate. Representatives Davis and Stevens, are recognized to send forth the committee report, the Clerk will read. Representatives Davis, Stevens Judiciary III committee report. House bill for either adoption post adoption services status committee favorable. Calender, and the chair intends to add this to today's calender is there objection? Being answer ordered. House bill 424 fostering success favorable. The bill is re-referred to the committee on a percentage rule page 38. Representatives Boles and Harvester recognize and send forth the committee report. Clerk will read. Representatives Boles and Harvester, Alcoholic beverage control committee report house bill 235 Gag man re- appeals such as lucky's man favorable. Calendar change the address to today's' calendar is there objection. Hang answer order.   Mr. Chicken  The floor purpose has the general  from Daram who has been or was. Just ask question for that bill number again? House bill 235 a short time Godwin [xx], feels a local ABC bill of some kind, it will be on today's counter, of corporate continue. House bill 29 prohibit powder alcohol, favored committee substitute on [xx] bill re-refer it to health. Regional bill's placed on the unfavorable calender committee substitute re-refer committee on yells, representatives Blast and Jordan are recognized to send forward the committee report, cooperate read. Representatives Blast and Jordan judicial two committee report, house bill 327 and allow use of cover split by EMS workers favorable. ENS House Bill 327 calendar the interior intense data to the days calendar is there objection? Hearing non so order. House bill 357, toxicology report, District court, favor of committee substitute and favor of original bill. Original bill in favor of account, committee substitute calendar, the Chair intends to add this to today's calendar, any objection? Fair enough, so ordered. What was that number again? 357, Representative Cambous and representative Lucas it's toxicology report district court. The Clerk will continue. House Bill 192, compliance court costs favorable committee substitute unfavorable to original bill and re-refer it to Finance. Original Bill is placed on the Unfavorable Calendar, the committee substitute is re-referred to the Committee on Finance. House Bill 374 IDS Efficiency Act, favorable Committee Substitute unfavorable to original bill and re-refer it to Appropriations. The Original Bill is placed on the Unfavorable calendar, Committee Substitute re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations. House Bill 552 Graffiti Vandalism, favorable committee substitute, unfavorable original bill and re-referred to finance. Original bill placed on the unfavorable calendar committee substitute re-refer to Finance. Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman from Henderson, Representative McGrady rise? I have been speaking to the recent Chair with respect to the last bill House Bill 552, and I believe he was going to move to strike the referral to Finance, in which case it could come directly to the floor, but I just wanted to bring that to your attention. It appears its been determined the bill does not require a referral to Finance, therefore the referral finance is stricken by chair and the bill will be added to the days calender unless there is objection. Hearing none is ordered. Representative Dolckry[sp?] is recognized to send forth the committee report clerk reading. Representative doctor, judiciary one committee report has 453 justice investment act changes does AB favorable committee substitute on favorable original bill.

Original bill on favorable calender committee subsidy calender any objection to this bill being added to the days calender. Hearing none is order. Members the chair also have been to extend the courtesy of the gallery to another school group from Henry survey we have, we take a group of eighth graders from rugby middle school, if you all please stand so that we can welcome you're with us today. And I your representative is Representative McGrady standing up right here he'll probably wave to you. So he's your representative from Henderson county for what purpose there's a gentleman from Transylvania representing [xx].  Just to make known, I welcome him to I've got quiet a few of my District [xx]. Thanks.  Apologies here and representative [xx] also represents part of Henderson County too. House Bill 237 the clerk will read. Representatives Elmore Holloway and Glazier house code 237 a bill to be entitled on act and appeal personal education plans in [xx] just seen the marlane innex. For what purposes does the gentleman from Wilkes, representative Eddie arise. I request to the chair to let the amendment of bill heard from Representative Coffin. Will do. The lady from Mecklenburg Representative Coffin must recognize the sent forth and amendment. The court will read Representative Catherine moves to amend the bill on page two lines 25-26, by inserting between those lines as following. The lady from Mecklenburg has the floor to debate the amendment. Thank you Mr. Speaker, and thank you Representative Elmore for your indulgence and support. Members this is just a simple amendment that is supported by all of the bill sponsors to make it that the State Board of Education will present to the Joint Education Oversight Committee, on how our students who are labeled at risk are doing, and what interventions are available for them. I move adoption and ask for your support. For what purpose does the lady from Franklin, Representative Richardson rise? Thank you Mr. Speaker, to bring fourth an amendment. We're presently on the Gotham[sp?] amendment therefore, the Chair recognized the lady later, but it does not appear the Chair is in possesion of amendment. OK very well. Okay there is a lady who wants the amendment. The amendment has not been shared on dashboard there is a lady want that look on the dashboard so members could review it while we are, Yes. OK. That will be so ordered. Further discussion, further debate on amendment one offered by representative Cotton, if not the question before the house is the adoption of the amendment send forth by representative, Cotton those in favor will vote I those who oppose will vote no, the court will open the vote. [XX] will lock the machine to record the vote 130 in having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the amendment is adopted. The lady from Frankfurt, representative Richardson is recognised ask to send forth the amendment for corporate read. Thank you Mr. Speaker for your indulgence. Just a moment, [xx] read the amendment. Representative Richardson moves to amend the bill on page one, line 34. One the lady has the forward to debate the amendment. Thank you Mr. Speaker, I would like to amend the bill on page one, line 34 by deleting the phrase and team to consider and substituting the phrase and prone the team to develop, and I have spoken with the bill sponsor and they seem in agreement with this amendment and I would ask you to support this amendment, thank you. For what purpose does the  gentleman from [xx] representative of [xx] rise? Just to say that I have no problem with.  Gentlemen is recognized to debate the amendment. I apologize Mr. Speaker I have no problem with the amendment offered from representative Richardson. Further discussion further debate. If not the question for the house is the adoption of amendment two sent fourth by representative Richardson those in favor will vote aye those oppose vote no the clerk will open the vote. clock lerck machine will record the vote. 113 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative the amendment is adopted we are now back on the bill as amended. For what purpose does gentleman from Wilicks, representative Elbow arise? To speak to the bill.

The gentlemen has the forward to debate the bill. The bill that you have in front of you is dealing with a personal education plan and taking that requirement out of the statute as the classroom is changing and the approach of dealing with at risk kids is costabtly changing this piece of legislation as, I'll call it a little dated at this point, and there are some different strategies that are taking place, now that the bill have been amended by representative Chatham we can evaluate different techniques that the department is looking at as time goes through so it will reduce some paper work for your teachers and they'd very happy with that. So I'll urge you support for the bill. Further discussion, further debate on the bill? If not the question for the house is the passage of house bill 237 on its second reading, those in favor will vote I, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open vote. Clerk lock the machine to record the vote. 113 having vote not in the affirmative and non on the negative. House bill 237 passes its second reading and will without objection be read the third time. General Assembly Macklem Max. Further discussions further debate if not the question before the house is pass the house bill 237 on staff grading. Those in favor will say, Aye. Aye. And those oppose will say, No. The Aye's have it. House bill 237 passes its third reading so that it engrossed some will sent to the senate. House bill 277 the clerk will read. Representative Ross, Gill, Goodman and McNeal, house bill 277, a bill to be entitled, an act to act of retirement administrative changes act of 2015. [xx] of North Carolina [xx]. The gentlemen from [xx] representative Ross is, actually there's a gentleman who was to send forth an amendment? Yes Mr. Speaker there is. The gentleman recognized to send forth an amendment. The Clerk will read. Representative Ross moves to amend the bill on page 10 lines 38 by deleting the word six month and substituting the word month. The gentlemen from Element says the forwarded debate the amendmended. Thank you Mr. Speaker, members in lieu of the fact that this bill is loaded with a bunch of different dates and titles and so forth changes that take place in this type of bill, we did find one typo last night and one of the final reviews sessions and this simply corrects a typo on page 10 line 38 that should have read month and on page 10 46 should have read six months. Further discussion further debate, if not the question for the house is passage of the member one, set forth by Representative Ross, those in favor favor will vote I, those opposed will vote no, the court will open the vote Representative Stan I'm my way don't need to vote will the court lock the machine and record the vote, 113 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative the amendment is adopted we are now back on the bill as amended for what purpose does the gentleman from Almaas representative Royce rice. Thank you Mr. Speaker debate the bill, The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Members this is a typical  bill that comes through just about every session where we go through the pension plan and there are usually two bills as will come through.  One as technical changes to the pension plan and another bill is how the administrative changes to the plan.  These are the administrative changes to the plan for 2015, this come to us by recommendation of the state treasure most of these, well actually all of these, these are 11 mostly small policy changes most of them are technical in nature.  The overall build is not having any cost, does not and also does not require a review by appropriations or the finance committee. I'm just going to shown to sections and then think about he has anything that want to get into we can do that, but there are 11 sections again as I said they are mostly small policy changes. Section One simply staggers the term of exploration and increases the term on it from the current two year terms to three year terms for members of the supplemental Retirement Board of Trustees. Section Two covers the revenue from those service contracts to the services to the brand the purpose for that section or

the purpose for that change is because is some of you know the treasures office is moved to some locations that are outside of the state government complex, in order to meet statute and have the proceed from food, go where it's supposed to go those provision is needed to get it to the services for the blind. Section Three clarify investment statutes for Colamingle funds, section four clarifies the statute to encourage volunteering during separation of service. Section five requires an imperial at the station as to the data accuracy. Section six improves the tools to collect moneys that are owed to the retirement system. Section section seven clarifies the rule making provisions, section eight clarifies the application of the 1000 hour rule for the local government employee retirement system membership. Section nine is the Human Resource stability for retirement system division, and section 10 clarifies the procedures for the required minimum distribution, this is to comply with federal regulations in reference to the seven and a half required minimum distribution for retirees, and then the final section to section 11 is the enforcement flexibility's action, will be happy to take any questions this passed out of pensions and retirement with unanimous vote, thank you. Further discussion or debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of, I can't read it, House bill 277, on it's second reading, those in favor of vote I, those oppose will vote no, the clerk will unlock the machine The clerk will, unlock the machine and record the vote, the as are 111, the Nos are zero, the bill has passed its second reading and will without objection. Representative Lucas are you objecting? No, I'd like to I was in the chamber. Let me announce the vote first, and then I'll call on you. The bill has passed its second reading, representative Lucas you rise? I like to be recorded as voted I sir. You'll be so recorded, representative Terry? I'd like to be recorded as voted I, I was also in the chamber but failed to get back in in time. You'd so called to represent Specially.  I also in chamber dealing with something else [xx] If you save record. Representative Wigma. Just need to confirm that my button worked as an I vote. If you'll check with the clerk, the answer is yes. Thank you Having passed it's second reading the bill will without objection be read a third time. General Senate of North Carolina next. Further discussional debate if not all those in favor will say Aye those opposed will say No, the Aye's have it and the bill is passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate house bill 434 Representative S. Martin, Tolbert and Lucas. House bill 434 a bill to be entitled on act to provide the medical resatification is not required for renewals of removable windshield handicap puckers if the person is certified as totally and permanently disabled [xx] Representative Susan Martin is recognised. I thank you, Mr. Speaker to debate the bill. I'm pleased to bring before you a very simple bill today this came to my attention at the request of a constituent, we have special parking available for folks who are handicapped, they have the option of getting a tag or a removable placard at the time they are certified as handicap they requires the certification from a physician. If they get the tag option they renew it every year and there's no further certification required. If they choose the placard they renew it every five years and at that time it requires re-certification from a physician. Well I have a 83 year old veteran of World War II and a number of other wars who is deemed and to his initial evaluations to be permanently 100% disabled and then he went to go

and get his renewal and DNB said you need to be re-certified by a physician. That was rather upsetting to him and it's just a technicality in our law that we decided in 1991 that we'd have one option for the tags not required every five years. So all this does if you're initially certified as 100% permanently disabled you do not need to go back to the doctor again and after five years and be re-certified that you're still 100% permanently disabled, I'd appreciate you support [xx] at a committee unanimous vote, thank you. Further discussional debate if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 434 on its second reading all those in favor will vote aye all those oppose will vote no, the will open the vote. Clerk will open machine and record the votes the ayes are 111 the nos and zero whether the bill be passed in it's second reading then will without objection be read a third time, further discussion or debate if not question before the house passage of house bill 434 to start reading all those in favor will say aye all those oppose will say no the aye's have it the bill will be set to the senate on the supplemental calender on your dash board the next one is house bill 437 the clerk would read, Proceed  Excuse me 464 on the printed to the last on the printed calender, Representative Faircloth house bill 464 is a bill to be entitle to adjust the composition of the board of trusties at reason transportation authorities to provide that all members of the board of trusties shall be voting members to authorize regional transportation authority to hire a chief administrative officer and to clarify the voting process of members of the board of trusties and reason transportation authority general service North Carolina act. Representative Faircloth has been recognized To debate the bill Mr. Speaker, thank you. I apologize for the long title it's probably longer than my discussions are going to be this is an effect a local bill has to do with the Friedman area original transportation authority as an authority that is made up of a board. It has officials and business folks and quite a collection of board members from around the area there. And when they first put this together, they had one idea of how they wanted it constructed, but over the years they find that they need to make some changes for administrative purposes and to be more efficient. It does not in any way impact the other two transportation authorities within the state, only this particular one. Few things that it does, changes the board membership to revive for two or three members of the board as voting members from the party area Board of Transportation, provides determination of a quorum the Board of Trustee to exclude vacant seats, provides the member of the board who withdraws from a meeting without being excuse shall counted as present. And these are the types of things that it changes, the administration function. The main thing it does is provides the the board shall employ a chief administrative officer, and that the board shall fix the compensation of the Chief Administative Officer, and any other employees hired by that officer, and takes that authority be away from the board, it would be run more like a city manager type of arrangement. So I have no opposition to it, it passed unumously in transportation, and I ask for your support. Further discussion or debate, if not the question before the house is passage of House Bill 464, its second reading all those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will close the machine and record the vote. The ayes are 112, the no's are zero, the bill is passed to it's second reading and we're without objection be read a third time. Johnson of North Carolina you're next. Further discussion or debate, if not the quest for the house is the passage of House Bill 464, it's third reading, all those in favor will say aye? Those opposed will say no, the ayes have it, House Bill 644 passes third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 437. Cooperate read. Representative Dolmson house bill 437 availed to the entire of active members from surprise this act, to creating from to permitted exceptions and advice to medical equipment permit exceptions for the dispensing of delivery of home reno products into allowed analysis facilities

to be designated as agents to receive home medications for parents and will not favor you. Does Johnson of North Carolina next. Representative Dolmson is recognized. Thank you MR. Speaker, [xx], thank you Mr. Speaker, thank you members of the committee for allowing this bill to be heard yesterday it's a very complicated bill, so if you endorse me I will try to explain it in it best I can and in simplicity because I can house bill 437 concerns something called peretinial dialysis, so taper dialysis for patients who are undergoing something called in stage adrenal disease therapy. These patients are able to self administer the dialysis treatment and the suppliers and delivered right to the door. So that's what we're trying to address here today. The ability to self administer allows him deliver more stable life style. This bill seeks to streamline into the supply chain for the delivery these supplies to patients door. I won't go into the details of process, I'd just say there are at least four checks a long the supply chain to make sure the order is accurate and the patient is getting what they need. The most recent check was added in May of 2013 So before I get into what I'm asking to change, I want to tell you what will not change in this bill, and if you were in the health committee meeting earlier today, I apologize for hearing this again, but I feel like I need to take a minute to explain what this bill will do, and what this bill will not do. First of all, manufactures of this product maintains strict control over all products from time they're manufactured, sent to the replenishment centers for storage, delivered to the distribution centers until they're delivered to the patients, this will not change, all dialysis solutions will still be manufactured and packaged at a production facility under the supervision of the US Food and Drug Administration. Again that's not going to change, as you can see on line 17 that dialysis or drugs were lawfully held by manufacturer, or agent of the manufacturer that is properly licensed by the North Carolina department of [xx] and consumer services they'll continue to receive oversight and regulation from the department of [xx] so that provision is not going to change. So there is still going to be very tight controls through this supply chain. So now let me tell you what will change with this promising permit exemption. At the end of the process, after the patient has already received the dialysis an independent contract pharmacist is required to do a weekly retrospective inspection of what took place. To be fair, this bill does seek to exempt permitting new dialysis from the pharmacy permit mandate. As a resolve for this bill the legislative inspection will no longer be required, and that is what I'm asking of this body, and the reason that I'm asking for this is because in May of 2013, state of Illinois and other states around the country mandated that it be done at the main facility, so it's a duplicative check. So I'm asking for that this will narrow and we fake the patient, I will create a record over site for the following reasons, as I said earlier an additional cheque was added in May, many duration are already in place, the FDA department of [xx] and third most importantly this inspection is done ritual respectively or after the fact. So it doesn't provide any new securities to the patients. Five other States are already doing this, It just passed Georgia unanimously and in the Senate, it's waiting on the Governor's signature and it passed our Health Committee unanimously today as well. A lot of work is going on to bring this legislature poll, a lot of stakeholders, the Department of Catechism concerns, we address their concerns and I know of no-known opposition to the bill but I appreciate your indulgence and I ask for your support. Representative Inscor is recognized. I would like to ask the bill sponsor couple of questions. The CEO of course. Thank you. In committee today I was trying to understand exactly what this did some our clearance so that I can have it write there are currently two inspections one done by the Pharmaceutical company and one done by a local pharmacy, is that correct? That would not be correct. There's inspections done along the supply chain for the

cases here the company happens to be in Illinois so the pharmacies are in Illinois they have a cheque there's a cheque at the manufacturing facility, there's a cheque at the warehouse distribution center and then there's a cheque before it goes to the door actually by the delivery man and at the door. Second question. Yes. There's a cheque by the pharmaceutical company that makes the product. The pharmaceutical company that makes the product, and then there is a check by he pharmacy company that makes the distribution. Correct. Follow up. Yield for third question. Yes [xx] And this bill removes the second inspection? It doesn't remove the second inspection. Inspection is already taken place in Illinois so all the inspections are still being completed as far as measuring the equipment the supplies all of that is still being measured none of that is changing the only that that's changing is the inspection that is going to take place in Illinois and it's literally just to computer check[sp?] is all the pharmacist are doing in North Carolina is that same computer check[sp?]. So it's just a duplicate of check[sp?] by the pharmacist. Third question [xx] Representative Yell for a fourth question of course. So the company that's doing the final check is the pharmacist and not a pharmaceutical company? That's correct. Thank you. Further discussion or debate, if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 437 on it's second reading all the those in favorable, vote Aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. couple of clerk will open machine and record of the vote 109 vote in the affirmative, not in the negative, the bill is passed in its second reading and without objection He read a third time. [xx] Further discussion of the debate, if not questions, representative Richardson. Thank you Mr. Speaker vote yes in the lat bill. You'll be so recorded. Further discussion or debate, representative Belmore? I request yes vote, I was in the chamber. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Representative will be so recorded. Further discussion or the debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 437 on its third reading all those in favor will say I, those oppose say no, the I's have it. The bill is passed in its third reading and will be set for the senate. House bill 163 the clerk will read. Representatives L. Johnson, Collins and Tern, House Bill 163 build to the entitled Act to various clear applying technical changes to the North Carolina capital of insurance Act. Johnson of the North Carolina enact [xx] Representative Tern is recognized to explain the bills. Thank you Mr. Speaker, this came to us from the department of insurance and also the captive insurance association. Two years ago if you recall we allowed insurance companies to operate in North Carolina. We had the hopes that maybe 40 companies might locate here, we're currently at I believe 53 captives in the first two years, so this is a way that we're bringing in new businesses to North Carolina but in the original legislation it was identified that the commissioner needed more flexibility in order to work with these companies to make us more competitive and to remove some of the impediments and regulations on the businesses to bring in more businesses here, it's an obviously very technical bill and I stand ready for questions passing of the Collins customers of Collins if need to but I commend the bill too. Further discussion of the debate if not the question before the house is a passage of house bill 163 in the second reading those in favor will vote 'aye' those opposed will vote 'no' the court clerk will open the vote. The clerk will unlock the machine record the vote, the 'ayes' are 110, the 'nos' are 0 through the bill has passed the 2nd reading and will with that objection be read the 3rd time. General sent of North Carolina in act. Further discussion debate, if not the question for the house is a passage of house bill 163 on its 3rd reading, all those in favor will say 'aye' those oppose will say 'no', the 'ayes' have it. The bill is passed and will be sent to the senate house bill 288 the corporal[sp?] read.

Registered as Spensor, Bobgodner house bill 288, the bill to be entitled to have to maintain NAIC of accreditation of the Department Of Insurance by making revision to the laws governing insurance company holding systems, link based the requirements of life insurance incorporates governors requires for risk attention groups and recommended by the Department Of the Insurance. Just [xx] Representative [xx] is recognized. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen in the house, the title of the bill as it was just read in by the clerk, explains the bill I know of no opposition Is there further discussion on the debate. If not the question for the house is a passage of house bill 288 on the second reading all those in favor will vote I, those who oppose the vote will vote No, the clerk will open the vote. one, zero. The clerk will work machine and record the vote the I's are 110, the no's are zero the bill has passed it' s second reading without rejection be read the third time. General assembly of North Carolina enact. Representative Godwin. Yes, Mr. Speaker I just want to make request in representatives Cess to give a tutorial on how to explain a bill after the session. Further discussion or debate from anyone? If now the question before the house is passage of the House Bill 288 on its third reading all those in favor will say I, oppose no, the I's have it the bill is passes third reading and will be sent to the senate House Bill 574 the clerk will read. Representative West, Hager, McElraft and Lucas house bill 574 bill to be entitled next to revive it state wildlife lost in as a matter of fact your imposes between the days of December 29th and January the 2nd General assembly of North Carolina enact. Representative West is recognized. Thank you Mr. Speaker, members of the house this is basically the same bill we had two years ago. The only difference is it's now state wide bill with all the inquiries we had about the person drop in order be sure and share with everyone else in the state. Appreciate you bow. Representative Abeler is recognized to debate the bill. Famous pager they asked the bill sponsor request. Yeah, it's representative West Shield. Yes sir. Representative Whales do you think that we could possibly get the beaver added to this bill? Some of the problems that were heard with the beaver don't know we could add it to ever would like to add a few more beavers to the drop? Fine.   Representative Specialist[sp?] is recognized. I just want to make sure that I had an eye vote on H163 I was doing something so I can't remember if I hit the button of not. Say you did not vote, how did you intend to vote? I. And you will be so recorded. Representative [xx] To debate the bill.  You are so recognized. Thank you Mr. Speaker I first I would like to have a lot of fun with this, but this is actually in various series such like persons are, they Sentiach[sp] creatures and this pool will create an exception in out statutes refered days where any person can be tortured, burned, skinned alive by anyone in the state, and I just want you to think about that when you vote for this bill, I'll be getting there thank you  Representative Michael Rath is recognized  To speak on the Bill? You're so recognized thank you Mr. Speaker, Well, I just wanted [xx] know I'm one of the biggest animal advocates in here, I ever since I've been here I've tried to get puppy meals, deleted from our estate and I have about 40 cats I feed and I got 12 persons and writing and I'm going to get trouble with wildlife people I know, but anyway when Raja asked me to be on this bill I told him absolutely way, where as you pither[sp] actually brought soot against these folks and I will tell you this person that they take care of of, I have to bring some this, they, it's not dropped, it's not harmed in any way and this is a serious thing. When Peter starts suing you you and you have to stand community inhumanity, you don't have anything in the statute saying that it is okay for this to happen, it's happened for years and years and there is no performed on to the animals. In fact as I researched it I found out that they

actually groom the little crater, they, he is fed very well not like mine out of my trash can or my cat bowls and he actually is treated very well and I've had and a lot of animal advocate say how can you do this? In fact I was just answering an email on this, how can you do this being an animal lover that you are? It is because I know that we need to bring some balance to this. We don't need Peter coming in here and going and telling this community they can't do something when they are truly not harming this animal. And that's what it was all about, if Peter had kept their nose out of this, then we wouldn't have had this issue and had to bring it up and putting it in the journal of statute. I hope you will support this as an animal advocate I'm going to support it because that part, a little passing and probably will never get a day like this again, he will be treated better than he would have if he hadn't been involved in this. Representative Harrison you receive you recognition to speaker please. I can speak. You are recognised. Thank you and I do respect representative Mackeners great passion for animal on welfare and and I am, I didn't want to raise a point but this just goes beyond that one person and representative [xx] this is a a State right bill now and for five days anybody in this day can torture a person according to this law, so I just want you to think about that, thank you. Representative [xx] is recognized [xx] you are recognized, thank you Mr. Speaker. I understand what representative Harrison is trying to say, but for some reason, I just can't believe for the last 140 years, there's somebody sitting out on the woods waiting on us to open season on persons to treat persons away she's saying trade them, I just don't believe they are waiting on this bill to pass. Representative [xx] is recognized to debate the bill, representative Lucas is recognized to debate the bill, to speak briefly on the bill  representative Lucas will do now then representative [xx] Thank you Mr. Speaker. The treatment in this bill will probably be the best that the persons will see the long term. I'm more concerned about audible bill kills, that you see on the road particularly this time of the year when they're breathing you cannot travel on any road without seeing four or five of persons that have been hit by vehicles on the road. That's the danger, this person is going to be sacred, thank you. Representative Pete Olson is recognized for what purpose? Point of correction, I would like to engage in debate and may I address, I would like to make remarks to Representative Helguson[sp?]. You're recognized to debate the bill. Okay, first I just want to lecture you, if you know how to no more city go but if you will go and That's it Raphael Ferguson you have to address your remarks to the chair or to the body, not the gathering I wont have to, but anyway, if you would go into [xx] office he has a stothe parsom[sp? In his office and you can see how the stothe parsom[sp?] looks like specialty is recognized. Just see if Representative [xx] another question. Representative Laski would you yield? Yes. You may have answered this and I missed it. Why are we making the state wide I'm sure the only county with the baseless. Yes, sure but we had to make it stay wide, because we had a conflict with our local bill trying to do it for one local one individual so we're going to do each day while we hope for that to cure the problem. Further discussion or debate. if not the question before the house is the passage of House Bill 574 and second reading, all those in favor will vote I, those opposed will vote No, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will open the vote. The Is are 94, the Nos are 18. the bill has passed its second reading and we'll without objections be read a third time. Further discussion or debate if not the question before the house is the passage bill of House bill 574 its third reading, all those in favor will say Aye. Aye.

Those opposed will say No. The Aye's appear to have it, the Aye have it. The bill has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House bill 259 the Clerk will read. Representatives Cleveland, R. Brown, and Riddell, HOUSE BILL 259, a bill to be entitled an act to make technical corrections related to general government, General Assembly of North Carolina Act. Representative Cliverand[p], you're going to address this bill, you're recognized to explain the bill.  Yes sir, House bill 269 May we have order and listen to the gentleman please House bill 269 addresses two problems we had in the budget last year for the department of cultural resources, it removes one section that was left in law when we restructured the commission of Ronrock Island and we had a problem with the battleship repairs, we left out the word cofferdam and there's also a $500, 000 additional funds that were supposed to be in here that were going to be paid for by receipts and fundraising stuff by the battleship and that is all that the bill pertains to and I'd appreciate your Further discussion of the debate. If not the question before the house is passage of house bill 259 on it second reading, all those in favor will vote, aye, those opposed to vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will open the machine, lock the vote. The aye's 111, the No's are Zero, the aye's have it. The bill has passed its second reading, and will without objection be read a third time. General assembly [xx] Further discussion or debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 259 on its third reading, all those in favor will say aye, aye all those opposed will say no The aye's have it, bill passes third reading and will be sent to the senate, house bill 253, the clerk will read. Mr. Speaker? Representative Robinson is recognized to ask for vote to be recorded. Yes Mr. Speaker I would like to be recorded voting I on house bill 437. You'll be so recorded. The clerk will read house bill 253. Representative [xx] bill 353, appear to be entire net with men but charter of the town of Godman to appeal to the run on the sale of speechless, figures and multiliquor within town limits. Johnson  will now claiming next. Represenstative [xx] will you  expalin the bill? Yes sir. You are recognized to do so. Thank you, this was a request by [xx] [xx] currently has a hundred proceeding quest. For what purpose does Representative Glazier rise? I'm just showing on dashboard 253 and I think representative mine is 235 I think we got bill bills mixed up here. Yes were on 253 which is entitled justice reinvestment act changes that's why I ask if it was I didn't thank you're on that committee Representative [xx]. The wrong bill was read so if the clerk will read it again just the right bill was read they had the we want bill 253. Mr Speaker. Let's pick 253 first it's [xx] Mr speaker. I can't see use of, Speaker Almon. [xx] can tell us which bill we're on. We 're on house bill 253 has that been read? Madam clerk, has 253 been read? 253, the clerk will read. Boles and Hurley, House Bill 253 a bill entitled in the provision of  the justice reinvestment act. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. Representative Fair-clause is recognized to explain the bill, to debate the bill, thank you Mr. Speaker. This is requested by DPs is the justice reinvestment act, changes you remember we adopted the justice reinvestment act a couple of years ago, three or four years ago, and it is doing quite well North Carolina, is having its name put on the top of the list as doing the best job with correctional management now and we are really proud of those talks over there in corrections. What this does is make some technique primary technique tightening, changes  to give better supervision

for particulary those who are released earlier on opposed to it and for instance per person is a put senator on probation they would have to wave all rights relating to extradition if they ran out and stayed and did something wrong and also we'll have to agree that if they went out the state, fail to comply with conditions integrity in the custody then in that way they rights related to getting them back into the state. There are some other changes that have to do with requiring those who are placed on community punishment to obtain a specific sex offender assessment and protect the public and also mental health assessments. Those are the types of changes required and I'm not going to read them all. One of the primary changes is the changing of the, excuse me the states correction advisory board this establishes a 13 member justice investment counsel, members of the appointed by the governor, Lieutenant Governor, Chief Justice, President poach in the name of the senate and speak at the house. Provides the counsel purposes to recommend policy enhancements to the Justice Reinvestment Act, assist in the continued education of criminal justice system stakeholders, support implementation of the act, identify a new initiatives that further implementation of the act might CS. These are all big changes, this part unite us in committee, it will make a good operation even better in our radio support. Representative Grasia recognized to debate the bill. Actually Mr. Speaker to ask representative Fyra crop the question.  Does it yield? I do. It yields. Thank you representative [xx] I think this bill has a lot of really good divisions have just traced about the first one. As I read that first one, but what I just ask you if you could explain again what first section of the bill does? The explanation in the also says [xx] 1343 to add as a regular condition a probation that a dependent must weigh all right relating to [xx] proceeding if taken in custody the outside of state for failing the comply with condition imposed by the court follow up Mr. Speaker? Follow up, do you yield? I do. He yields. Representative, maybe, and I'm certainly going to vote or you your bill if I may object to that just to get this answered, as I read that, and I'm really just saying I'm I reading it correctly, if flees, and there maybe good or bad reasons, usually not good ones, but they flee, are we saying that when they're first put on probation for whatever the offence may be that they must as a condition of agreeing to probation, with any procedural as well as substantive extradition rights they may have, even if they're illegally held in another state, regardless of what that illegality might be, they have waved any right to contest extradition by simply being put on probation, is that how that's meant to be? That's my understanding of the way it's written, and you may feel that needs to be corrected. Mr. Speaker, to speak on the bill please? You're recognized to speak on the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, this thing come through a committee on [xx] just incredibly good stuff in the reminder of the bill, and this may be something we should do, but it concerns me a little bit, we're saying anybody who is put on probation for anything, and that maybe from a worthless check all the way through to serious felonies, immediately must sign the agreement and will waive rights, but waiving the fact that you're giving up a head of time, any extrajudicial rights including all of those process rights that may in fact make you being illegally detained for other reasons in another state, I got a little concerned about because it can be directly unrelated to the reason of the provisioning hearing and that is, you may not be being held in another State for extradition for this but maybe for something else and you may have real legitimate challenges there and I have seen those in my practice over the years. So, I'm going to vote for this bill, I would encourage everyone to, but I will ask if with your approval that without objecting we could find a little bit about the background of this provision for tomorrow. Further discussions,  I have no objection to third reading   The bill will, if it passes the second reading, will remain on the calendar for tomorrow. Further discussion or debate if not, the question before the house is the passage of house bill 253 on its second reading

all those in favor will vote I, those who oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. OK. The clerk will lock the machine record the votes, the I's are 113 and Nos are 0 the bill has passed it's second reading and it will remain the calendar. House bill now 235 T5, the clerk will read. Let's read it again, it says on it. Representative Zoko, house bill 235 availed to the entire [xx] toward the charter of the town of [xx] to appeal the ban on the sale of it show [xx] and Mall Lukas within town limits. Do you seem [xx] in X. Representative Soccer is recognized to explain the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, this bill is request by the town guardian, which currently has a population of 139, this updates their town charter which is a one page town charter, and hasn't been updated since 1905, actually what this is, it's a good example of a town looking for economic development and trying to do the best of what they have. What they want is they would like a gas station, convenience store with the ability to sell beer in their small town, and that's the whole purpose behind this. The man in the city council had an announced the meeting, and I can guarantee you that everyone in town knew about it. There was no opposition to that meeting, they sent the resolution out asking to support this bill, thank you.   Further discussion or debate if not, representative Bristol is recognized. Can I ask the bill sponsor a question please? Does he yield? Yes  He yields. Representative [xx] that's a Goldman has established paying on, right? Yes it is. You know that court representative [xx] and he always stood up and talked about this beer, wine anything concerning the alcohol is now the general practice, to do without referendum, and so that the team would have the right to do the referendum but the new FH in the set of presence here, what you're asking for the state to sign off on a all sailed in, it's just not the way things have been happening here but those, it's always required a referendum. So I don't know how the body feels about the event but I'm going to have to oppose it Representative Zsoka answer to that question. I'm not sure what the question was, I believe the question was Did they consider a referendum or half a referendum you said that they had a town meeting but I don't know why they didn't go and have a referendum in both [xx] not say that did not have a rare final, as I stated they had a consummating that they ensured everybody was aware, there was no opposition at that time Representative Shepard is recognized  thank you Mr. Chair for what purpose does Representative Brisson rise to speak on the bill  you're recognized to speak on the Bill I was laying here I still think it's by law or is required the referendum not sure what that is but I noted this body since I've been here for the last 10 years is not advocated the real authority but invalid to sell unican alcohols without referedum or so I think we ought to make sure that, and I'm not a lawyer, and I don't serve on the AVC Board, but we need to find out if this is properly handled in the right way before we're asked to vote on. Representative Shepard. Mr. Speaker, for a question of a bill sponsor. Does he yield? I do. He yields. Thank you, representative [xx] I just when I saw there was only like 140 people live there, do they in fact have a town council and a mayor and all that, or is it just. They do have a town council that is correct, OK, and have they asked follow up? Have they asked for this bill to be, did they ask you or send you?

Yes sir, they have, they passed the resolution that, I remember the time council Mary signed and [xx] that to me, I can certainly provide that to anyone who wants to see it. Senator Booz is recognized for a motion and an explanation. Okay, I make a motion that we move this, if the bill is okay to the end of the calender, until we can get staff, and I think what you're asking for is a change of the charter, and then I think there is a population statute that will inject a referendum, and I don't think it needs that, but we're going to ask staff to come over and explain that. Is there an objection to moving this to the end of today's calendar? If not it is so ordered. House bill 350 57, the clerk will read. Representative Stan, Faircloth, Leidiger and Herley, house bill 357 availed to the entire [xx] to provide the and we can take toxicology analysis maybe introduced as evidence in a district court criminal prosecution without the expert testimony provided there is a right to trial we vote no. Just so [xx]. Will either Representative Faircloth, Leidiger or Herley please. Representative Leidiger is recognized to explain the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker and apologize this is added to the calendar and it's really representative Sterm's, we've lived on it and we are try to explain it this I think came through J2 unanimously yesterday and the major components are that are to try to allow some lift to the and not have their analysts sitting in district court as toxic. Toxicologists waiting to testify when they're not needed and when we need them to do months of back up of lab work, and so what it says is because in district court, you actually have the noble right to appeal to superior court that it needs for district court purposes the prosecution may use a lab report and affidavit in lure of the toxicologist being present provided there are a number of safeguards, first if the analysis complies with other parts of the statutes, second that the analysis is part of an affidavit and the endless sign to upload, third that the district attorney gives notice to the defendant and defense attorney, and that the defense attorney then has the ability as well at that point to subpoena or issue a subpoena if they want the toxicologist present the State must comply with that subpoena and if they don't they may not admit the report and in fact their case could end up being dismissed. In addition this law should not be read as precluding any other right of the defendant in district court and finally we added in provisions that if the state is using an out of state toxicologists, the burden remains fully on the state to produce the toxicologist that they may not here's the way for procedure, if the defendant objects it all. This came through that committee unanimously, I don't know of any objection to the remaining portions of it Mr. Speaker and I that summarizes the bill. Further discussion or debate, if not the question before the house is a passage of house bill 357 on its second reading all those in favor will vote I, those who oppose will vote no, the court will open the vote. The clerk will open the vote and as recorded the I's are 111 the no's are 1 the I's have it, the bill has passed it's second reading and will the third objection, will be read a third time Just in the North Carolina and next  Further discussion on the debate if not the question will of the house has passed the house bill 357 on it's third reading all those in favor will vote I, all those who oppose will vote no, the I's have it, the bill has passed it's third reading and will be sent to the senate. The clerk will read it and the committee announcement right now that the chairman wanted this to be read now. Homeline security, millitary and federal[sp?] affairs will meet 15 minutes after session today. House bill 327 the creks will reads. 327 . Representative Dolpson, house 327 will build to be in title an act to allow emergency medical services personnel to carry and use pepper spray for self defense purposes, general assembly for North Carolina in ask. Representative Dabson is recognized to explain the bill. Mr. Speaker, If I can

and if, with, my good friend representative Flynn and former resit mate doesn't object, I'd like to have this bill re-calendared for tomorrow if we can. Without objection the bill will be calendar for tomorrow no objection so order. House bill 408 the clerk will read Representatives Stephens and Glazier House bill 408 a bill to be entitlement to establish a joint especially if the study committee on adoption, post adoption services [xx]. Representative Stephen is recognized this apply the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, this [xx]. I can take the [xx] apart here and say the bill speaks for itself. We're going to study is an option, post adoption but I owe an apology to representative Horn because he's represented the committee today. He wondered if it's going to resolve one of his issues and I think it could as we start looking at post adoption procedures, past unanimously committee and I appreciate your support. Further discussion of the debate, if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 408 on it's second reading, all those in favor will vote I, those oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine close the vote, the Is are 113, the Nos are zero, the Is have it, bill has passed its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. General assembly North Carolina in act. Is there any discussion or debate? If not, the question for the house is a passage of house bill 408 for its third reading, all those in favor will say I? I. Those oppose will say no? No. The Is have it, barely, bill passes third reading will be set for the senate, house bill 561 the clerk will read. Representative Blackwell and Glaysia, house bill 561 a bill to the entitled neck to modify the authorities school systems to the character legal proceedings and investigations through Journal North Carolina in act. Blackwell is recognized to debate the bill, explain the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, this bill was brought without the sent that I had at least in J4 this morning school systems of course get more than court cases but they also get involved in what are called quasi judicial cases, specifically examples of that would be cases before the North Carolina Employment Security Commission equal employment opportunity commission, the office of civil rights, North Carolina Industrial commission, and the North Carolina department of labor, section one of the bill simply makes clear that the board of education has the authority in those types of proceedings to disclose information and it is otherwise confidential from the file of an employee who had brought a claim in front of one of these agencies, section two of the bill is dealing with situations in which the board of education itself is sitting in a quasi judicial law and having some sort of determination that it's making regarding behavior, misconduct of an employee in addition they are having the right spinal[sp?] witness which they already have existing law this simply adds they provide of, they can also spinal[sp] tangible documents and things that are listed in the amendment that may be relevant in the determination of the employees misconduct ask the house to support this bill So further discussion or debate? If not the question for the house is the passage of House Bill 561 on its second second reading. All those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will open machine to unlock the vote. The ayes are 115, the nos are zero. The bill has passed its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. Is there further discussion or debate? If not, the question for the House is the passing of House Bill 561 on its third reading. All those in favor will say aye. Aye.  All those oppose will say no. The ayes have it. The bill has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Before we take up the next bill, I will have the clerk read some more bills in, so you can decide

whether you want to add them to today's calendar or not. Right before we do that, the pages excuse for the day. We'll see you tomorrow. Report from Judiciary 3 Mr. Speaker Representative Floyd what purpose do you ask? Inquiry [xx] What is your inquiry?   While the gentleman is reading in the bills that we take a little small recess why he is doing that Three minutes. That will up to the Body Representative Floyd. The clerk read the report from the committee.   Representative Davis, Steven, judiciary 3 committee report house bill for 7 Foster Care Family Act, favor committee substitute on favor original bill. The original bill, the unfavorable calender, the committee substitute to pursue favorable, pursue to rule 38, three refer to appropriations. House bill 429 amend medical malpractice health care provider. Original bill, favorable calendar. The Committee Substitute, favorable calendar. Any objection? Objection. Alright, there's objection to that one being on the calendar. Next committee report. Rep. Daughtry, Judiciary one Committee Report, House Bill 436, Authorize Practice of Law Changes, favorable.committee Substitute, unfavorable. Original bill. The original bill in favorable calendar. The pre-substitute favorable pursuant to the request to the Chair. Rep. Daughtry, that will be calendar for Monday unless some one objects. Without objection that will happen. House Bill 328, Highway Safety Citizens Protection Act, favorable.committee Substitute, unfavorable. Original bill to re-refer it to Finance. Original bill, unfavorable calendar. Substitute, favorable. Re-refer to Finance. Representatives Blackwell, Brian and Shepard, Judicial for committee report, House Bill 513 real property [xx] collections favorable Calendar is there an objection to adding that one today? If not it will be added to the calendar. House Bill 551 D. O. T sales on use property favorable, Is there objection to adding that to today's calender? I'm sorry what was the bill's number? Short title BOT, sales of unused property house bill 551 without objection that will be added to the [xx] calendar. House bill 539 playgrounds available to public favorable and we refer to education K through to 12.   Favorable and we refer it to education K12 The next bill is House Bill 552 The clerk will read representatives of Aquatic leisure B Brown and J Bell House Bill 552 avail to be entitled in act to create a criminal offence of graffiti vandalism, general [xx] of North Carolina is next. Representative McGrady is recognized to represent the bill. Thank you Mr. Chairman, this bill would create the criminal offence of graffiti vandalism. The bill received a good discussion in committee. The primary issue being just what type of, what class felony ought to apply to the offence. Initially this came as a request from Bocome District Attorney's office to increase penalties for graffiti vandalism in the city of Astro, and for some of you, you may remember this because we actually passed it out last year, it was one of the large amnivous bills reg reform or something like that, and so it's now a free standing bill. I believe that the Speaker, the Chair's actually got an amendment to the bill, and either Rep. Reives or Rep. Glazier is going to handle that. Rep. Reives is recognized to explain the Reives amendment which appears on your dashboard as the Stam amendment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This amendment is something I think is going to be favorably received by this bill sponsors. Rep. Reives, I forgot. The clerk has to read the amendment in first. I apologize. Thank you. Rep. Reives moves to amend the bill on page one

lines 20 through 24 by rewriting the lines to read. Rep. Reives, please proceed. Thank you as stated, that be something as favor received by the bill sponsors will be taken out one line with this being a felony offence think a couple of authentic questions just get a chance to put this memo together in commiting about taking out a line that would make the damage that's a $1, 000 or more a felony offence we just taken that out and we ask that you all support it. Further discussion on the amendment. Representative Grady. I speak on the amendment, the discussion on the committee continued well after we considered the bill and this is a product for our discussion and it's completely acceptable. I will accept it as a motion and the amendment. Further debate further discussion the debate on the amendment, if not the question before the house is the adoption of the amendment set forth by Representative Reeves all those in favor will vote aye those all who vote no the clock will unlock the open the web . the clock will unlock the machine record the votes the ayes are 107 the nay's are zero the amendment has passed, we are now back on the bill as amended representative Sensor is recognized. I would like to be recorded as voted aye on that list. Representative Sencher will be recorded as voted aye in the amendment. Further discussion of the debate on the bill, representative [xx]. Yes I speak on the bill You are recognized to speak on the bill Thank you sir, firsT I'd like to thank representative McGrady for taking the lead on this piece of legislation, as he knows being in our community, in the art community is a huge problem for us not just in the city of Asheville but also in Buckingham county. It was recently the topic of concern in a community meeting that I was able to attend while on spring break. So I hope that you will all consider that this will go along way towards increase the penalties in making our communities a better place to live and a more attractive place to live and I hope you will support his bill. Further discussion on debate on the amendment, Representative Floyd you are asking on the bill are you asking to debate the bill? I apologize Mr. Speaker I was speaking to the bill. Representative Floyd are wanted to debate the bill. No Sir want to be vote recorded on the amendment aye. Representative Floyd will be recorded as voting aye on the amendment. If no further discussion debate all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 552 as amended will vote aye those oppose will vote no. The court will open the vote. the clock will close the vote and record the vote 112 voting I. No, none of the negatives the I's have it the bill is passed in second reading and will without objection be read the third time. General senator of [xx]. Further discussion of debate if not the question before the house is a passage of House Bill 552 on its third reading, all those in favor will say aye, all those who oppose will say no the aye's  have it the bill is [xx] as passed. The third reading will be engrossed and sent to the senate. House Bill 513 the crockery representative Bryan Stevens house bill 513 avail to be entitled an ultimate 10 on corrections and other comproming changes to the general statues concerning will property. General syndrome of North Carolina NX. Representative Brian is recognized to explain the bill. Thank yo Mr. Speaker this is a real property technical corrections bill that the bars sensation brought to us, and after a 15 minute debate about playgrounds today in J4 we took about a minute and a half to unanimously approve this. It does two very small things once a conforming change regarding duty of trust, and the second is trying to make the plant community act plan up a little better, the kind of mini mark a little better with the community with the best community act, all related to changes we made last session.

If you have any questions I'll be glad to answer them, but I recommend the bill to you. Further discussion discussion or debate? If not, the question for the house is the passage of house bill 513 on its second reading all those in favor will vote I, those who oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote The clerk will record the vote the I's are 112 the no's are zero the I's have it the bill has passed it second reading and will without objection, be read a third time.  General Assembly of North Carolina next  Further discussion of a debate, if not the question for the house is the passage of House Bill 513 on its third reading all those in favor will say I, those oppose say no, the I's have it.  The bill will be sent to the senate, passed bill 561, excuse me 551, the clerk will read. Representative Poli both Adams and Bishops. House bill 551 a built to the entire to solutate and transfer the annuals department transportation land to be property sector by streamlining the process of selling and Johnson will not cling in next. Representative Brondy is recognized. Thant you Mr. Speaker, if you look at this and it looks like dejavu all over again that's because it is. This bill passed the house on April 11th, 2013 with a vote of 109 to zero where I went to the senate and languish until it expired when I requested this bill I requested they redraft the previous bill which we have passed and let's try it again, and I ask for your support. Further discussion of debate, if not the question of the is the passage of house bill for 551 on the second reading, all those in favor will vote Aye, those opposed will vote No, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will record the votes, the I's are 114, the No's are zero, the I's have it, the bill has passed at the second reading and will without objection be read a third time [xx]. Further discussion or debate if not the question before the house is the passage of House Bill 551 for it's third reading all those in favor will say I, I, those opposed will say No, the I's have it this bill has passed its third reading will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 235 the clerk will read, it's already been read. Representative [xx] you're recognized to will begin the debate again. Thank you Mr speaker and thanks for the indulgence of the members of the house. We do have the answer to Representative [xx] question, it's a two part answer. First, if they had to have the referendum, they would have to have the charter change first and this is according to star and when you go into the general statute 18B-600 which covers the size of localities that require referendum the town of Godwin does not meet that science. So since Camberley County does allow allow alcohol sales of beer, wine and spiritless liquors, the defaulters to what the county law is so that one is charter is changed then Godwin will have the policy that the rest of the county will have and once again I say that the would not be required by statute to have a referendum. I hope that answers your question and I would ask please vote on this bill. Representative Briston is recognized. Just to make sure that I understand the, [xx] I'm not trying to hold [xx] sales in government, I promise you be, are you saying that we are not giving them permission to sail the bill we are just going changed it total where they can make that decision is that what you are saying? Representative Zsoka you're recognized to answer the question. Sir the answer to that question is first to trigger has to be changed and since Cumberland County already allow sales of beer then the town is covered by that they don't have enough people in the town to require a referendum the threshold is 300 for this, and they only have 149 people so they will be able to sell bear at a convenient store. I hope that answers the question. Representative Bason[sp?] Well I still can't understand why we hadn't taken stern action on it if they already have that authority. Further discussion on debate. Can I answer that? Representative Zoka is recognized to debate second time. Its because in their charter

they nine sections in section eight charter from 1905 says that news more like a Shelby manufacturer sold in the corporate limits outside town. So, what we're doing here is changing the charter to delete that section. That's the purpose of the bill. Further discussion or debate, if not Representative Browly is recognized.  Mr. Speaker I would like to ask Representative Soccer a question, I want to clarify with my own man,  Does he yield?  I do. He yields John, as I understand what you've explained, the county referendum for beer in Cumberland county would have authorized beer and got one at that time had their charter not forbidden it, and by removing this from the charter we are allowing the referendum which would normally be required for this to take effect several years after it's fail, is that the correct statement sir?  I would agree with that statement, yes sir further discussion on the debate if not the question for the house is the passage of house bill 235 on its second reading all those in favor will vote I opposed will vote No, the cloak will open the votes. The cloak will work the machine record of votes, the Aye's were 106, the No's were eight, the bill is passed in second reading and without objection be read the third time. General [xx] you're next. For the discussion on the debate, if not the question for the house is the passage of house bill 235 on its third reading, all those in favor will say Aye those opposed to say No, the Aye's have it. Bill is passed the [xx] waiting then it will be set to the senate, now this is an announcement. Is the cloak cavity Representative Haygas is recognized for an announcement, then I will go to the front. Thank you Mr. Speaker I want to announce republicans will corcus in the morning at 8 o'clock in 1228. Some announcements from the clerk. House committee on finance. Pay attention to the announcements from the clerk or you'll miss a very important meeting. House committee on finance will meet Thursday April 16th at 8:30 A. M in room 544. House committee on health will meet Thursday April 16th 15 minutes after session in room 643. Representative Charles William is recognized for announcement you're recognized. Thank you. The rule work will not meet this afternoon after session do look at your emails we have a very important message for you to consider. Thank you. Representative Rode Kyser recognized for the announcement. Would either Representative Stan or Representative Bradley yield for question? Would Representative Bradley yield of a question? I yelled. He yells. I just heard the announcement of finance meeting at 8:30 in the morning. Could you tell me what bills are in the calender? Thank you the announcement, it should have already been an announcement of the bills, I think with the exception of a cap one that came out of our health today which would have been house 543 which we will probably slow off in response to a request from well if its a consignment email which will nevertheless tell the body what the bills are. So if you don't mind I will look it back up cause I can't remember it. I will appears is recognized for an announcement. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Announcement. I just want to announce to the members that on next Tuestday morning, it's 7:30, we will be having our By-Annual Wainwright prayer breakfast. And if you joined us the last that, I pray that you will come to pray with us again Representative Wayne Right was a clergy in the General Assembly, and also a great legislator. We want to invite you to come down with us, thus set our First Baptist Church 100 Wimmerton Street. You will be getting an announcement invitation by email [xx] Thank you. For what purpose the gentleman from Durham Representative Luebke rise? Persuade an answering from Representative Brawley but For what purpose does the lady from Carteret[sp?], Representative McElraft[sp?], rise? For an announcement. The lady is recognized for an announcement. House Environment will meet tomorrow at ten o'clock. The bills were listed, they were three of them, and we may take out House Bill 638 also which is supposed to be non-controversial.

Thank so much the Chair believes there was a question asked to which bills were going to be heard in Finance tomorrow. I believe this can be supplemented by the Chair. However, the bills that have been given notice at this time are House Bill 183 Repeal Map Act and House Bill 232, Natural Gas Economic Development Infrastructure. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Rep. Hall, rise? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Inquiry as to the time of session tomorrow. The gentleman is welcome to state his inquiry and the answer is 12 noon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further notices and announcements? For what purpose does the gentleman from Craven, Rep. Speciale, rise? For an announcement. The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. Just wanted to reiterate go about homeland security meeting 15 minutes room 643. Further notices and announcements? If not, the gentleman from Harnett, Rep. Lewis, is recognized for a motion. Mr. Speaker, I move that subject to re-referral of bills and resolutions adoptions of bills and resolutions and committee appointments, that the House adjourn to reconvene Thursday, April 16 at 12 O'clock PM noon. The gentleman from Harnett moves, seconded by Rep Dollar, that the House adjourn subject two the re-referral of bills and resolutions. Introduction of bills and resolutions and committee appointment to reconvene Thursday April 16th at 12 noon those favor will say aye, aye those opposed will say no. The ayes have it. We stand adjourned.