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House | July 31, 2014 | Chamber | House Session

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water as a source. Water was adopted, he reconsidered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. The gentleman from Catawba has to reconsider the adoption of the conference report, Senate Bill 163. The gentleman has the floor to debate his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker, members, this bill was done in cooperation with the staff of the administration. The General Assembly again worked with administration to get this bill through a conference committee. We have now had a request to revise the original conference report after it was approved by this House. That was beyond an eleventh hour change but I ask that you support this reconsideration and we will provide an additional conference report shortly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] to see if the Representative would yield to a question please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Catawba yield to the gentleman form Cumberland? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mister Speaker, thank you Representative. I wonder if you could give us just a bit more detail I mean the bill was a good bill, I think, and you had actually a lot of folks involved in that I think a good process and so now there's a reconsideration could you, I’m going to ask you a double question. Exactly what and who in the agency’s asking you to, or us to reconsider and what's the provision that they want reconsidered and why? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The provision, although staff nor I nor the conference committee entirely agrees with this, there is a potential gray area that would put this bill, as adopted in conflict with the Clean Water Act. Again, we don't agree with that but I ?? thinks there may be an issue there and so where we've already added a belt to the suspenders were now adding another set of suspenders. [SPEAKER CHANGES] One last follow-up please? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman form Catawba yield to an additional question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] As opposed reconsidering and going back through the conferences, is it your view that this is not a technical matter that can be done through an amendment to correct or an additional bill? Well let me ask it this way. Do you view this, if there is a need to change it, do you view this as a substantive change or a technical change? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I view it as more of a technical change, but staff is saying that they’re not comfortable doing it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much Representative. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Person, Representative Wilkins rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mister Speaker but I had a similar question. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion. Further debate. If not the question before is the motion to reconsider the adoption of conference report Senate Bill 163. ?? favoring the motion will vote aye. Those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will ?? the machine and record the vote. 84 having voted in the affirmative and 22 in the negative, the motion is adopted. Conference report is back before us. I believe the gentleman from Catawba is going to make a motion that the conference report be returned to the conference committee. Is that correct sir? The gentleman is recognized for that motion. Does the gentleman desire further debate or discussion on that motion? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No further debate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion. Further debate? If not the question before the House is the motion to, actually is there an objection to the motion? Hearing no without objection the conference report will be returned to the conference committee. The gentleman from Catawba, Representative Wells is recognized to send forth a new conference report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To the President, the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives ?? is appointed to resolve the difference between the Senate and the House of Representatives on Senate bill 163, a Bill to be entitled an act to designate reclaimed water as a source water under certain conditions. The ??is recommending the Senate and the House of Representatives adopt this report. ?? is for the Senate, Senator Hartsell, chair, Senator Jackson

Davis and Horn, [??] for the House of Representatives. Representative Wells, chair. Representatives Samuelson and Brisson. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. Without objection, the bill will be added to today's calendar for meeting's consideration. Any objection? Hearing none, so ordered. Motion before the House is the adoption of a conference report set forth by the gentleman from Catawba, Representative Wells, is that correct sir? Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the House … [SPEAKER CHANGES]Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Strike that. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Hall, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just had a question regarding conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Does the gentleman from Catawba yield to the gentleman from Durham. [SPEAKER CHANGES]I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES]He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Wells could you tell us now what the difference is, what the changes have been made? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The latest conference report is on the dashboard. If you like to deffer this so you can have a chance to review it, that would be fine. But it's up on the dashboard. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The chair is going to temporarily displace the conference report, make sure members are fully apprised of it. I understand from Representative Wells the changes are not significant but lets give members time. So without objection they'll be temporarily displaced. Special messages from the Senate, [??] read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Special message from the Senate. Mr. Speaker thought it best be sent it the House of Representatives with information the Senate failed to concur in Senate Bill 734, a bill to [??] further regulatory relief to the citizens of North Carolina by providing the various administrative reforms. The president pro tem appoints Senator Wade chair, Senator Apodaca, Senator Brown will send you to confer with like committee appointed by you all [??]. The differences rising may be resolved. House Bill 884, a bill to [??] an act to provide for drop out prevention and recovery pilot program with a charter school and to require the state Board of Education report on utilization of personnel contracts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Bill's counter pursuant to rule 36B and without objection today's calendar. So ordered. Remember the chair is pleased to extend upon all members of the House the courtesies of the gallery to Secretary of Cultural Resources Susan Kluttz and Chief Deputy Secretary Karen Cochran. If you all please stand so we can welcome you. Calendar. House Bill 1224, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Senate committee [??] number 2 for House Bill 1224, a bill to entitle an act to limit the [??] of local government sales and use tax rate to 2 and one half percent. To give counties the flexibility to use up to .5% of local sales and use tax for public transportation or public education or general purposes or for a combination thereof and to make various changes to tax and economic development laws. [SPEAKER CHANGE] For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGE] Mr. Speaker on the last vote that we had I wish to change my no vote to yes. [SPEAKER CHANGE]Gentlemen may record as a yes on the previous vote. For what purpose does the lady from Davie, Representative Howard, rise? Excuse me. Chair would ask the House to come to order. For what purpose does the lady from Davie, Representative Howard, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGE] To make a motion on House Bill 1224. [SPEAKER CHANGE]Lady's recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGE]Thank you Mr. Speaker. We had House Bill 1224 yesterday in the finance committee and went through each provision and at this juncture we would, I'd like to make a motion that we do not concur and conferees be appointed. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Further discussion, further debate. Now the question before the House is the motion not to concur to the Senate committee substitute for House Bill 1224. So many favoring adoption of the motion will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote.

If tough sentence of five each of the free status from S-66- especially 66 to 5-cents-half-staff in Spanish and defenseman cinema said¢ ask that this as a set of the fact that to maintain the confidentiality of a manifestation-of-fact about, that this establishment and-such a plan in the face-saving assets into the pressure that companies to set some contracts and transcendence that them and that investors' confidence that house says-she-take some chances to manage lands that stand as a novice oven-to-do-that's -hand man-to-as-half, and has had a 6 to 6 lead that has the half that in the house activity and then comments about, (SPEAKER CHANGES) says attention that represent access to the notion that has a debt-financed recommends that has for the standalone man said the – finance the fed and clothed about continued to two, but the spill from a member of the first game of the year was that not a concurrent because of the timing of when the game of the year and sometimes I think you can actually improve the bill by the way it can if you don't like many changes to it and this was soon as this was a situation where concern for our members are not on those two commands that five of eight million additional exploration and questions Representative Lionel myself a mistake, and staff on the floor if necessary, otherwise the commission of opinion that the correct five homers from even thinking about, says the Jennifer Radford represent data as the motion gem and for that-that's very good estate finance some of that-end until the two spouses, Jeffrey say what they've done this to break off report and then bring you back two-back to finance their fathers day in the out-of-Spain and I say this bill is very good news as the farmers in North Carolina as the people of North Carolina says some in the console them, leaving us today on this film and operational command to sponsor for allowing us to talk about a potentially when they really did have two sons of 80 guessing, and a lot of them-ash represent contract-but-gem as a form of a tough loss of life that have been working both of our house members of the divorce-service the 12 months and will send this bill and regret the left of it is the farm bill but this is at least before a U.S. Senate has to follow, this is the least the fourth or fifth, saying is that either licensing board come through the finance committee which we feel with every Thomas come through this as the one they always do that at the attack is something really r well and got no, I just don't believe and creamy licensing boards are really on in the public's until their safety issue this is common, secret action, not for the one who licensing boards North Carolina any other state, like the son of man-esteem and the bad news event and so heavily on behalf of ms, Curtis isolated sends a message to his life as of 456, of the detection of stuff we will assume about this route, says (SPEAKER CHANGES) the life and death and that's as high as 10-day, but as of Friday the motion, I think an assistant U.S. Atty. in a site and complementing after that service after the test SMS of a process that can hurt us from the Spanish fashion icon 712, five-deck have come ??...

One has to do with the confidentiality of complaints of environment violation by cultural operations unless the ?? has concluded the violation has happened, it is critically problematic especially related to hog operations where it is often known deficiency in ?? violation issue so it is not clear how this situation would be down worth and it doesn't deny resolution to the individuals who file the complaint and actually the subjects of the complaint so if they had a complaint that's fall against them.There is a problem about the other piece about the drainage districts proper of provision is another way back.?? all protection?? so i would be encouraging to vote now.Thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES]For what purpose does the gentlemen from Macklenberg representative Brawley has [SPEAKER CHANGES] to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]gentlemen has forwarded the debate motion.[SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr speaker and members of the house. I was really welcome when the finance committee on the question of the new licensing board for the landscape contract. What having dug into it and as known specific question, It is my opinion that the circumstances under which one had to become a license landscape contractor are the same trigger conditions where u did become the landscape contractor u would have to become a general contractor, so anyone who is not already required to become a general contractor will not be required to become a landscape contractor under this regular troy board. Now we will have to watch the regular troy creep because I would except to see a bill that it says to be 20 thousand or fifteen or seven and we will need to block there. But as this bill stands now it does no harm to people who are currently been regulated and I will support this bill. It will be only objection of what I found in the bill everything else is good work on the part of our agricultural chairs and on our department and I urges supported the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentlemen form Maclenberg represented Alexander as. Speaker of the bill gentlemen has forwarded debate for the motion.[SPEAKER CHANGES] Speaking for all of the farmers in my district and I find myself in the refreshing position being in fully support of the comments from representative Brawley and haven,t said in couple of committees where I has heard this measure and what I had to see in Latin and tried to hear is. But?? is a good measure we need to move ahead with it we need no to caught up in the sad weeds about whether or not one licensing board is going to delay the whole operation. I urge everybody to support and lets move on with it. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For what purpose does the gentlemen from Durham representative luebke has[SPEAKER CHANGES]To speak on the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentlemen has forwarded the debate for the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr speaker. Let me start and as I did in the cultural committee how much I appreciated the chair dixson and landen and brought the bill back before the agricultural committee and I also chaired Howard who brought it when the bill was in financiers today a lot of us debate in our parts of the bill and appreciated ourselves very much. I have question about section 11 and I guess whether representative Dixson has raise the question fro ?? what has to do about 80 V vehicles being on land where the driver of the 80V vehicle has been given permission by the owner of the land to drive on the land to take the 80 V on the land and yet even with permission as I read session 11 and even with permission if something happen on that land because there is farmers that harvest the seed and walk there to harvest the seed there is no liability on the part of the land owner even if the landowner has given the driver the 80V permission be there. SO there is problematic, so I want to represent Dixson if he could discuss.

The 15-to-date of questions of-the phone that, and as to answer the question their day-to-sales-session at the end of the crash as a loan that we have an Allen of the ante on an oddity-given permission by a land of them all and get the land that has a lot that if something happens to the ATVSN, channel and that those that do not understand the from the folks that Friday's System in their half of the landowner gives from ash and that's a file a friend is warned that the study of bill gates says campaign and that the landowner goes to the commission that the landowner handsome liability to the passion he gave permission to this as he moved to a trespasser that the me-this-that-that the Serbians, says he has gained fame as soon as that, and the vision of a landowner to ban land stuff just as this is a way that those that that in the battle and a gentle and a may have that, says conditions , has the land, said defensible the - banks said that meant an essay presumption of landscape and the assumption of arrears handgun to minister's comments say it's good to have to cut that shows us that they can that be your vehicle and especially about owning a router liability and some this statement says the man-made without having said that if I give you permission, the same five considerations, a trespasser and honest and trespassing and social workers to find another specter says the best I can do the thing that the nation, to stay coming from a shoe for them as a decade of- the-testified before a stadium and that message axiom from question that the gentle lady of the agenda from that I would you guess, the senate action, and that-that's his web site that as do as soon as an Atty.(SPEAKER CHANGES) two, and this provision about, but the five billion dollar I think at some of the hot outside as requests this idea how believe is only a very narrow circumstances police say that begin with this problem very few cases, but hardly a somewhat stress testing of a new property you'll have a duty to warn the end of certain dangers Francis on a form get out of the box chain the answers openness about men, home, have to tell a TV writer Cyril not proper to trespass and not that bad of a media same as the violating the copyright however what this does live site last year I gave you can get information roger a TV on the form and then I decided to put chains across the move and you cannot tell you the guy Davies cremation ride and you come from a year if he'll be captivated severely injured bomb, the allowable idea that reaching just like a trespasser and ask for the differences , of hands of the buffalo had just spent roughly half that many have permission to land owners should have liability and under this provision of the motherland, does not have liability, actually that much in the span of the many good things and reference and the com, and in addition to my concern , about the events section that says that if you've got a complaint is not public record well that's like saying you, ??.....

Instead for something and it is not a public record unless you convicted here it says in this bill unless the complaint result in a violation finding a violation is a confidence of record this is where the problematic from the standpoint of the public records public records are to be able to tell us who file the complaint and i think that an other reason why this real problem is with those two parts of the bill and was support the rest of the bill are reluctantly revolting know on the the conference report thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES]for what purpose the gentleman from ?? represent the ?? gentleman ?? here for question gentleman from the way gentleman from the way [SPEAKER CHANGES] my questions goes back to the A TV ?? so if you give information and you are open for also information you are protected this is how interpreted [SPEAKER CHANGES] does the gentleman regret the question at this point [SPEAKER CHANGES] i would just ask the gentleman to repeat the question one more time [SPEAKER CHANGES] okay.If i am an landowner and i give information to ?? A TV or my property .Therefore what i assume to rescue here that part cracked [SPEAKER CHANGES] Currently or under this bill[SPEAKER CHANGES]under this bill[SPEAKER CHANGES]under this bill if you gave some one permission you would have any liability .Then you would for the common trespasser [SPEAKER CHANGES]so you stick with ?? asked his question[SPEAKER CHANGES]yes i would[SPEAKER CHANGES]the gentleman from ?? the gentleman from ?? this question [SPEAKER CHANGES]So if i don't give the information and have my property posted what liability do i sue in this bill[SPEAKER CHANGES] miss speaker i can answer that [SPEAKER CHANGES] the gentleman has recognized to answer the question [SPEAKER CHANGES]you would assume any additional responsibility than you have now , don't we think that as the trespasser i mean you couldn't you couldn't string up and bob the wire net ?? own purpose with the idea that i am gonna decapitate on A TV ?? but like i said if you put it up across the road for an other farming purpose an someone came along will still be treated as a trespasser and that the deal for us [SPEAKER CHANGES] for what purpose does the gentleman from Buckingham represents the ?? the gentleman has forwarded to debate the conference report [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you Mr speaker I rise in support of this conference report i think among other thing it is a testimony to do committee work i serve at the agriculture committee and the finance committee i have heard this bill ?? thoroughly twice and i was one of those who came with a bit of open mind with some questions and concern may be about particular portion of it that i hope that you will listen to the morals of representative ?? from ?? the council said what i would said and i am not gonna say at all over again but i did rather have people that are concerned about the wises in board to i agree that we can ?? wises in board and have to ?? but if you listen to his comments you would understand those that are doing the type of work would right now general contractors license that they really should need ,now they have a license instead to do that work for that amount of money the ?? you have.So i don't see a problem there i have also have heard some of the other arguments that have been made representative Loki mentioned his concerns about the public records law and i imagine that our ?? representative Dickson is gonna explain this again as he explained so well in committee and i totally agree that once during the bill you cant UN ring the bell and the truth of the matter is that there can be false and true accusations that are made perhaps intentional perhaps not and it should not ?? the integrity of those that are being accused if they are in fact not guilty .So i think that it is consistent with the idea that you are innocent to proving guilty not gonna bother with the point that i do want to thank the bills passed thank they have done a really good job i thank you for the opportunity that we did have the bill in committee i thank our questions were answered in

The first record lap, says Jennifer and represent them as a stand-up demand that they got some tough stands as a sign that said that given the end of the landscape that contract and the vices general contractor myself, I am just that, and that conflict between the two licensing boards that the supremacist that has that, for the says the number three and that concept of the same, and the state so let us say that the Encarta ms support the bill that dispose of them, and this conflict,(SPEAKER CHANGES) Tammy semis that landscape contractors higher price as a general contractor's license to do this because sometimes landscape and contracts require that the structure , genesis and a structure like to answer something like that-that's- casa of them intentions as a gem as of Friday, then there's the context of the same time they can, and that that Saddam??.. constructing the highest level and that was the van, a chance that the servers happens there was something like that says if that's so that they have had a general con census is because that contract includes a structured so that Hanson-and-a, second-and-a, contractor for the structures that, as happened last time, contractors some of that stuff I suppose that has happened to the vest, licensing if the fact that said, that tough stuff myself landscape contractors to and the session that contest that § come back this up-and-solid- about,(SPEAKER CHANGES) says a gem-chat represent main shots from the premise that leave the firm that represented the same as the data that says that Dr. For the finances-and- Hansen, and most of that in the family and investigate an estimate that that fan and if the fans have a fashion that that's the stuff just assume that the plan began to that stuff to send that this plan has planned that if Saddam , an Amish stuff that that issue that has that that the man said that this, and that pension plans, a tough time to time, life, sat -of-the-back about that this as a democrat, and members of the stress two states on the conference report suggests that doctors or dentists take a possible to conference report, the division specifically a believe that the message it meant he had some question about as a vacation liability generally allay those with a foot to say about the property but they don't ride, they've given special E.T. the vehicles those we use of a haunting than those who use them for recreational purposes they try to accommodate them again quite say moving to me that if you going to allow the property you given them permissions so you do that when the fed, and some ??....

(faint voices in the background) I think that the provision there, protects somewhat the landowner and that landowner who's been gracious enough to allow them on his property needs that protection, so I really support the Conference Report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak to the Conference Report, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman has the floor to debate the Conference Report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'm actually rising to support the Conference Report, but with one caveat, that I hope will ask Representative Dixon a question and and I also want to commend him on the process, not only the formal process but also the informal process of lots of consultation. On the first section of the bill, where the public records issue is raised, I think it's really worth, worth I think noting that that is a substantial difference in how it was originally drafted. This is a very modified provision from what the original bill filed a long time ago contained, and there are other issues to be addressed later on. But I will say, because I do think that Representative Luebke raises the legitimate point about public records, I think there's a flip side to this, and that is, I think that there is the possibility and I hope that it will be reviewed over the next year to see if it turns out to be true that by holding the report when it comes in, but putting out the stick if you will that if you don't resolve this and fix it and remediate it and the department finds you're in violation that's going to be made public, if publicity is what we're trying to avoid, it may create a significant incentive to settle more quickly these cases, and get things more resolved and remediated. Now, if it doesn't have that affect, it may be worth revisiting this provision, but I think that there's that incentive to getting actually these problems resolved quicker and better for all parties. That remains to be seen based on the will of the parties, but I think there's an argument for that. On the liability section, that troubles me the most. The argument Representative Jackson made that it's ?? narrow??, I think is right. But the argument that Representative Luebke and Harrison and I others have made really is problematic, I think there's ways to fix this later on, and that's going to get to my question, I don't think any of us wants or intends this provision to be a circumstance, where you give the permission to the person or a child to ride the ATV, and we think everything's fine, and then three-months-later, not remembering we even did that, we put up a barbed-wire fence for a different reason or do something and simply don't tell the person who still has the permission and then they're seriously injured or killed. I don't think any of are intending that there be complete immunity in that circumstance. By the same token, I think the general view here is we want to know, we want to give people opportunity to access the property if they can, we just don't want the normal liability that would follow for hitting a root, or falling off or whatever it may be. I think that there's a difference between a, a man placed that is life-threatening on the property that the property owner knows about and doesn't tell the person about versus all the other stuff. And so my question, if Representative Dixon would yield, please? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Duplin yield to the gentleman from Cumberland? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Dixon, I wonder, if given that scenario, and I know that's not what you're intending to prevent, whether you would agree that in the interim, this provision might be looked at to be narrowed a little bit to make sure that when we deal with man made life-threatening circumstances that that can somehow be excluded or we can talk about language about that, because I think that that is what people are really caring about. The other 99% of the cases I think that this fits appropriately. Would you be willing to consider to having a discussion coming back next session to try to narrow this provision a bit? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir, Representative Glazier, I will do as I have done in the past, try to communicate with you and others, I'd be more than happy to do that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much Representative Dixon. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Rowan, Representative Warren, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, in support of the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The only, the only issue I had with this in committee was the general contractor's requirement for landscaping and that has been sufficiently addressed, regarding the issue that has just come up with Representative Glazier has spoken about, the liability factor, I agree with what he said and also with what Representative Lucas said I think the intent behind this section is to...

him, racism post to allow their land of the access to the TV. I enjoyed the same time without exposing themselves to was so boring legitimate liability suits, but I think represent a result,the nation brings up over very legitimately and just when you want attention which has policy. you cannot upload. you can't address every unique possibility that may come up every unique situation, so I'm not sure that this country you can sing somebody for something and take the any event, I encourage most important with me. the committee could vote with me on on the supporting this measure now Change speaker: by the discussion and if not question out of the house is the adoption of the conference support out there. three sixty six August second rate submitted driving adoption of the conference report will vote on those opposable to the core of the law initiating and record about ninety one, having voted in the affirmative, and the negative emotion through .com support Hospital, three sixty six basses. second reading and remains only down said in November for them. they really found a little billiard Senate Bill eight fifty nine Oracle rate. Change speaker: besides, you can simply deny the time. an act relating to municipal regulation about him thank you for Joseph in North Carolina next Change speaker:. while this is a joke that if America were represented. Jean arrives to make them. the gentleman has authority to make the veil. this is about as soliciting these of Stephenville is a logo is Cornelius Gilly with vacation rental properties less than ninety days in length. the original bill have some problematic language appreciation or parts changing that the negative more general term in the Senate only affects twenty years now after the body support further discussion for the delay, if not for however said that the general withdrawal question. what does Change speaker: the gentleman Raven represent a speciality rise from Will 's question is the gentleman from it, and the gentleman from Craig and I will kneel to find problems in his life. the Cornelius. I started Change speaker: the discussion further delay in if the question before the house is the adoption of the Senate committee says that the person the right fifty nine on the second reading to me favoring adoption of the bill that I was opposed will bite no worldwide. ribs and wings overflowing this jungle was to be recorded on the rock, Michigan records of one hundred and ten, having voted in the affirmative and want in the negative, the Senate committee 's SV% fifty nine passes a second reading and will without object him wanting Change speaker: further discussion for the delay, however, so the Jennifer and Jeff are represented Brandon rise and accidental Change speaker: question for the house is the message of the sick and azesty presented a fifty dollars. their rating is many favorite fast food that will say I was about to say that guys have a incentive -based evidence he presented a fifty nine passes and started reading in his order to enroll the death of Jim and I went to the general government liberated us in the general wishes me reported as having value. I am for you. Change speaker: I own three sixty six. Jim will be several court Hospital in eleven forty five, only

To the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the conferees appointed to resolve the differences between the Senate and House of Representatives on House bill eleven forty-five, a bill to be titled and enact to require mopeds to be registered with the division of motor vehicles and for operators of mopeds to have full force and effect of policy of financial responsibility. Conferees for the Senate. Senator Apodaca, Chair. Senator Sanderson. Conferees for the House of Representatives. Representative Shepard, Chair. Representative Carney and Millis. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Onslow, Representative Shepard, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, to ask the House to concur with this conference report and also to speak on it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for the motion and is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Chair. At this time I would like to ask the House to concur with this bill. After we went to conference report, basically what it does, it sent it back to us and it's just like it was when it left the house when we voted on it earlier. It passed eighty-one to twenty-nine overwhelming. So, the bill is just as it was when it left here and went over to the Senate. So, I ask that you concur. It puts the insurance back into a study. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the adoption of the conference report for House bill eleven forty-five. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will out machine record the vote. One hundred having voted in the affirmative, eleven in the negative, the House has adopted the conference report for House bill eleven forty-five. The Senate will be so notified. House bill eleven thirty-three. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House bill eleven thirty-three, the bill to be titled and enact to make technical corrections to the general statutes and session laws as recommended by the general statutes commission to make additional technical of the changes to the general statutes and session laws. Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do not concur with House bill eleven thirty-three. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The motion is before us, the gentleman is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. There are a number of provisions that, as you know, this was the bill that we had the lengthy debate, or not lengthy debate, more of a lengthy explanation last week. The Senate added a few things in that were new. Did not include a few things that we had so we would like the House not to concur on this bill. We have, we just need to make those changes, so, as I told the Speaker before, if you love America, children, and small animals, you'll vote yes not to concur. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hagar, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Scratch that. To ask Representative Moore a question, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'll yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, could you kind of tell me a little bit more about what got changed, what got left out and why I don't love children or America? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, I believe you do love all those things. The, there were about, I don't have the list with me. I left it at the desk. There's about thirty-five changes as I recall from the last camp. And there were a number of provisions that House members asked for that were in there that weren't included and there were new provisions. Entirely new provisions the Senate included, so in liu of going through a lengthy explanation of that, which would be required, I simply just ask the House not to concur and let us get a conference committee together and work out the differences. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate on the motion to not concur? If not, the question before the House is the motion by Representative Moore to not concur in the Senate committee substitute for House bill eleven thirty-three. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. Ladies and gentlemen again, a motion to not concur would be green. The clerk will out machine record the vote. One hundred eleven having voted affirmative, none in the negative, the House does not concur to the Senate committee substitute for House bill elven thirty-three. The Senate will be so notified. House bill two seventy-two. The clerk will read.

If the vehicle send a lesson that fashion recession, but then the channel of polish behind the scenes from ms-DOS NFL running backs that sense that this age of this comment about her age of a man has been recognized that motion that emanated a commotion us as a house-to-minded via Tse -Tung, (SPEAKER CHANGES) and end Reggie Jackson must have been using five-day he left out some things that even this as the phenomenon where seven and a handful of Arkansas, straight-man testified he explained, a discussion of the four that session that if-if that system nations and I think that's a consensus estimate of 72-that-that-that could have said that 110-dominated house-senate committee says too fast and 272 to sell the senate from the Phillies 69 ( , 7 September fifth ms-69-contact Mike Anderson has come as 55 in which have no contracts even if I promised the PlayStation has four-bit of SMS and the mistake that the house not to, say the 63 the film of 3629 AM ms this fashion sense as the nation-state that this man has taken several other provisions that, we sever and senate bill five-thing left to assemble at Atlanta less than five house members in the joining of Johnson and two have not heard from work out the differences between the two opposing some bills and that tried two are come back with us and for compromise from two to SMS to fish for the missed most of those sessions of emotion that the questions that system ocean sonata in the senate committees sensitive-as-69 and say that those that have happened but that the decision, that meant that, then that has not had a senate committee says cemetery that's roughly 69 to 77 55 cents of every seven days after the spill 87, active five to drop the provision recovered by a program to transpose and the state of education for all of the session-person that contracts mistaken the PlayStation that this that motion potential of this bill De geneve says motion mistake that, then frozen fashions jackets placed 10th of that, if it's a technical issue with previous studies had the edge on please restate the Dean, is that they somehow suffering from Mr. Speaker we have the chairman of that nothing in the ocean-sentiment of them said ?? (SPEAKER CHANGES ) Ellison and that the chest and somebody a car that was not clear that was that your reply to the fact that the emotional a consumer sentiment that, one that should have been traveling before us on the dashboard but that we will miss those amenities for the son of the visitor that this unlike the same of those sent to the age 8:1 PM Eric was having no message if a station focus to make a motion given us from ocean and today the motion from the state-machine that we can come, left ESA Committee system to house them ad for LAN-as the nation that should have said that, as is that, and, of the staff of a candle and Jan-man last year yesterday with this message ages of past 45 to 0 by their 260 ??.....

but you know the original bill said there was really three pilot schools. this is a committee substitute reduced to just one pilot school. the original bill, said it had the number one of the school type in the Burke County bluebells does not have any counting limitations that theoretically could be anywhere in the state is the only city substantial changes. I asked for your support and keep out rain to concur, Change speaker: processor discussion president is not a question of what assets the motion to concur in the Senate committee substitute for hospital a day before I provide our husband of eleven Odyssey is about twelve, one hundred twelve membered affirmative none, and the negative. the house has incurred in the Senate committee substitute for hospital eight eighty four. the bill be enrolled and since the government special message ladies and gentlemen, we voted not to concur on House Bill eleven thirty three Humphries will be more chair Lewis Stone and Ray sent Lisa notified Rosa Morris, Jim and ready to take up the a matter on hospital and forty five. the issue is the speed limit house no one forgetting the Romans Williams, eleven forty five Change speaker: the week 's invited brief legal event, the John is right, not speculation, misleading of this was the registration from the postponement that passed overwhelmingly sympathetic, emotionally, I was learning the wrong thing was on the screen summation is correct when you consider… Shepherd moves the bill sponsor is also a support awareness him Change speaker: as asafetida better. if not a question before the house is the most motion to reconsider the motion to adopt a conference report for hospital forty five all a favor about all does not note for eleven Mrs. a gentleman we were in the middle of about quality and record about one hundred nine had about affirmative tuna, negative emotion as his representatives that Shelley police that your purpose to speak on unwillingness. they it does not yet properly before the jump. Change speaker: again on the dashboard. Change speaker: they the bill is not yet properly before us. the gentleman may speak on purpose maternal at the town of those before us, ladies and gentlemen, the children and that it advised now that the proper bill is before us on the dashboard representatives that Shelley can you confirm it back later. you can Change speaker: is thank you Al: forty five is not properly before us further discussion further debate him shall please think about this as well as young as recognizing Change speaker: that motion was not much cause some of us to vote differently for the transmission of pain attention so that it required the insurance, so I voted no, no, this is not required in it. it was back into the study found that you go for Change speaker: that discussion that I did not request before that houses the motion to adopt a conference. eleven forty five Hall of Famer, but I all has no doubt about the controversy was about one hundred three, had invited affirmative and nine in a negative out

Tough to sell the says that again this time traveling seven then the foot and thus, such as AM and 9 to 11, an actor modify the 3-7 finance ms at 2013-18 the fitness center that was the mistake of the own agenda as if they need of a bill five-the specter of them member of the couple of weeks ago to five, the call peacefully which is the product of the card issue regarding, commerce and then that that's the seven-an amendment requiring the state, and those that use a stock quote pushing the end of September 9, the commission to five-foot-962000 dollars to move those that came with it, too, can lead to less than $220,000 in October that that would not be possible to, a way of Federal aid that were added later with a couple lived in some way they did $80,000 with a lot of a couple to live with SQL you see a mile from 6 to 10,000 logo should mention that the people you're talking about are not state employees that they not every time a whole other benefits play well for the nonprofit and many of those some of those who won the nonprofit percent to two this requirement and so was this edition use a compromise to go from 60 to 80,000 dollars in the presenter glacier has agreed to the mountains of the compromise and applicator support that that's a decision that this two-tenths of a vehicle places-estimated the agency that represent a face the fact that,(SPEAKER CHANGES) I think it was somebody to put these requirements imposed, I did this by this concern and remain concerned about, such as women who were talking about the fed move into 68,000 buses, the created the problem that's not good for people were really concerned deeply about , being excluded so I think that they were still got the general requirements and, for medicine for reporting for the people that we really need to have to report information to so I would urge the members on the side of the aisle to go for the change taking the discussion that had not a question of that system passes from the house basis 227-1983 on its second meeting all day that this segment of the defense attached that one and five adding that, then 6:00 AM a native DS recess 227193 asbestos ever remember that section would be that some chance of a phenomenon that specify that if not a question for the system passage of the house may substitute a 7193-rated offense at that those that guess that the city says 227193 asbestos the rating from a return to the senate best days based summit sector recess and show 130 after we take care of the few from a matter sure there are two bills left on the calendar, (SPEAKER CHANGES) senate bill 163 and senate bill 763 they would be taken up only return after recessing 130 , is that no we did not end, the school to 72 earlier the country for the stamina chair man page error by a panel of the offensive-a seven-foot- 10-cents-a sense of accomplishment is a difference should send a fax sent from asp that they could have in common that man, this ??....

him. the provision authorizing that you have direct supervisory authority on the city attorney the top threes recommend send out threats and their properties. the Senate said parcelsthey are in some type of co chair copies of the House of Representatives; have represented Johnson the road and glacier calendar lives in Asheville. please state your purpose Change speaker: representatives– I write a check. I understand you might be recorded as having voted. I on the other to reconsider Mister to remember he was voting on. on the on the last votes reconsider Rosen is the only state your purpose. a request to change my Bluetooth on our hospital, three sixty six gentlemen will be recorded as having voted Change speaker: Rosetta Jones please state your purpose Change speaker: inquiry to examine the state is inquiry by dispute could you mistake deals and roots. I got back to resist via the bill as to the chair understands how are the ones should be on the dashboard that would be a Senate Bill one sixty three and Senate Bill seven sixty three. nose of the tables, chairs, answer eligible for today's counter any was added today would have to be added violated a house next Change speaker: licensed him again. we're going to recess until one thirty believe that represent the Starnes has an announcement the terrible acknowledge other notices and announcements revs andit starts to think your purpose. Change speaker: thank you for the announcement, the general vagueness for an announcement of a small here in breast button that was around the Ford Mountaineergentlemen, ladies of the Europeans. the Republicans will call this in all minutes after recess downstairs room for we Change speaker: represent Assam, please think about this announcement page on the Change speaker: naysayers announcement and if assimilation is the satellite pass the conferees, one of revenue. more would let a huge his desk. I like the top reason to seventy two urgent, more hydro power blackmailed me immediately after recess for about one minute Change speaker: numbers. the chair was calling you, Utah, rather than she anticipates a motion for representative one. I want to make sure people were listening rooms in a horribly essential purpose,a Gemini state 's motion to Change speaker: thank you, Mister Speaker, I like to ask that hospital, twelve, eighteen, which reject the conference report. we just read in very simple local grill that we hadtoday's calendar without objection. without objection runs in a shopping center purpose of converting our videos and reservoir with the gentleman, please describe the substance of the bill for the members and is sorry. Change speaker: thank you. it's the government reported dealing with the city of Monroe attorney reporting to the city Council and the optionally changing in any outlaw for Cabrera 's for how they appoint commissioners for local braille involves hosting issues and it's not at the go. the mishmash of came over here before, when conference Change speaker: they had without objection, so are based gentlemen, the upon motion members him, especially as member from Hunters ville, which is happy to extend courtesies of the gallery to my man of men are just waiting for Miners ville. well him and whether the way always think about this as Change speaker: we eliminate state 's announcement that they disputed this logo represent new clock in his room

Further notices and announcements representative Morris recognized .Mr speaker move that the house recessed in the 130 subject to the ramification of bills, messages from the senate, committee reports, conference reports we follow those resolutions in support of confidentiality ?? bills resolutions and modifications and counter [SPEAKER CHANGES] representative Mar ?? so the house go into recess subject to ratification of bills and resolutions received messages from the senate, conference report, committee report we follow those bills in resolution in support of confidentiality ?? bills resolutions and modifications and counters.All in favor say i the house has adjourned .The house stands in recess [SPEAKER CHANGES] okay conformity for house bill for 369 ?? chair,adultery,Stevens,Davis,Jackson,glacier. The ?? is notified [SPEAKER CHANGES]Member of the houses going to stay in recess subject to the ratification of bill and resolution messages from the senate committee reports,conference reports we refers bills in resolutions appointments of conformity introduction of bills of resolution and modifications and counter to reconvene at 2 PM.The house is in recess.Special message from senate ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES]Mr speaker present to your message received on July 24 2014 .That they have ?? to concord senate amendment on ?? 1054 a bill redirect ?? to high chairs ??on part of the senate ??committee appointed difference rise may be ??[SPEAKER CHANGES]come to order[SPEAKER CHANGES]The clerk reports that the member left the tablet in the cosus room someone come up and get it up here ?? republican cocus [SPEAKER CHANGES]Special messages from the senate the Corcury [SPEAKER CHANGES]Chair stands ?? it was right in during recess.Members in chair would like to thank the honorary page of the day the honorary pages ?? of orange county every one please stand and let us welcome you and thank you for being here today[SPEAKER CHANGES]senator bill 163 of Corcury [SPEAKER CHANGES]The bill is temporarily displaced it has been read on properly before us representative Wills please take your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES]debate the motion[SPEAKER CHANGES]the gentleman is recognized as debate the motion[SPEAKER CHANGES]This motion is to prove a conference report that is essentially the same bill that passed out of this house a 117 and nothing .It is the same bill that was approved in the earlier conference report with one exception from the original bill, that one provision one manner provision was removed but the basic deal is intact .There has been a number tweaks that request the beginner and serial request to change this bill to other various federal laws and the last conference report was approved 110 to one.i ask your support today for this latest conference report [SPEAKER CHANGES]Further discussion further debate on the motion to adopt the conference report .If not the question for the house is the adoption of the conference report for the senator bill 163.All in favor vote up all in oppose vote No.

Tough stuff the first time that the senate bill 163 to sell below five percent, to censure that this line change, and Mr. Speaker Linda FML family is two and then the lady was then that has come from 18 o'clock or eight and 10-cents-a fraction of his company's founders of-seven-cents-a-half that of interest in one letter-of-the-same action that could serve as that of a county Atty. Hank offensive in the service and the fact that this is¢-Contra some technical to the face of the strengths of this lesson from having to send the Johnson said endangered by the senate have a center that this kind of the own agenda as from ocean and today the motion-rich her know that we can, copy of home with a contractor for a nonsense that was put in that bombing mission: nonsense-one of the commission said and done by the loss ended, and except for one small piece which brings converse county in mind that the majority accounts? Carolina and allow in holiday shellacked from complications for someone has left tackle at the office of them, they'll still as simple as allowing Monroe at their city Atty. (SPEAKER CHANGES) report to them to the City Council instead of reporting, city manager which again is something that most of the lockout-known as this college in North Carolina us your support for concurrence that said that the message about this stuff that mess of a motion , the van was that a vision that fashion-nonsense and non-level and then let us at seven , however that this may happen that is supposedly a lot of concentration and then have to strengthen those, Canada and output that the best that Israel and a man whose stock division of the half of them in the fact is that a services, and so anti-and that's just as manages the fact that the PlayStation, as did today, though the motion this stage of recognizing that motion taken as speaker one of the macro represented horns and his comments and just of the members of democratic caucus many of whom had some concerns with plea from commissions that when the original bill of this county those are all (SPEAKER CHANGES) and this just hopefully prevents any future problems from occurring, create similar controversy that there's an option that sent that message about this debate a motion to assess the ocean, and suffer from against it, if that's hand, is that said, spilling from and the union county anyone to say that changed we said a lot like the data came back to announce his five-and that can use those same time I got seven is allowed as a sign that half of the county's it's just like well and whether the fed is a-L in the idea, and the executive committee makes , turned and the suggestion and two, and an oven and set aside the notion that have put missile a 40 to 49 other counties on this date in the state's offense in the 579, taking the discussion, that if not a question that sissy that should accomplish a ??.....

report for House Bill 1218, all in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 112 having voted affirmative, none in the negative. The conference report for House Bill 1218 has been adopted. The Senate will be so notified. Senate Bill 763, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee Substitute #2 for Senate Bill 763, Bills of entitlement enact to make technical and clarifying changes to various revenue laws to modify the rehabilitation tax credit, and to modify and extend the historic rehabilitation tax credit. General Senate of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This, if you could just give me a minute. This bill has about 26 individual provisions in it, the majority of the provisions were requested by the Department of Revenue, and they are truly technical. The 2 that were added is the, there were 2 provisions that were added yesterday that, in the Finance Committee. 1 being the, to delay the sunset for the tax credit for investing in renewable energy, that from January 2016 it will extend any project that is started before January 1 of 2016 with 5% expenditure will be eligible for that tax credit, and it also extends the historic rehabilitation tax credit from January 1 '15 to January 1 of '20, and does make some modifications in establishing a lower value rate of credit based on property value and the amount in location of the expenditures, Mr. Speaker. And I'll be glad to go through all of the ??? provisions of the bill, the Finance Committee did go through this Bill yesterday, and there is a motion that we do concur. No, I apologize, that there is the motion from the Finance Committee. Yes it is. Yes, that way was reduced for, the bill came out of the Finance Committee, not with the unanimous vote, but we did have the motion that would give it a favorable report. Can we have the Finance Committee, Mr. Speaker? I will be glad to answer any questions. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Duane Hall rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] 12:18 Mr. Chair, I was in the chambers, but still locked out, I'd to be recorded as a yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman will be so recorded. House Committee, just a moment, we're having a technology problem up here. Members I'm aware that there are some amendments on the bill, are there any members who wish to debate the bill prior to getting into the amendments? And the reason we need to do it in that order, is that right now the Chair's computer, as well as the clerk's, and a number of the other clerk's, computers are down as far as the, some of the system here. So is there any further debate or discussion? Seeing none, just kidding.

What purpose does the gentlemen from Chawon, representative Steinberg rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] You're my light. Okay I got it now thank you very much. To debate the bill mr speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentlemen has the floor to debate the bill.[SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen I rise this afternoon to speak on one particular section of this bill. And that is the restoration of the historic tax credit. It was added back in to this bill. This corrections bill yesterday in house finance. And I'm delighted that it was done and I thank representative Louis for taking that initiative and doing it. This historic tax credit without question is the economic engine for many of our rural counties. And I can speak in particular to one of the most historic regions of the state without delighting any other portion of the state. but this is where north Carolina began and our nation was born in North eastern North Carolina. These tax credits have proven to be at a time when the economy manufacturing has just about disappeared in that part of the state. One of the things we have managed to keep going to generate jobs and a significant number of jobs in growth and development has been as a direction for the historic tax credit. I have been an advocate for this forever. I don't think I have received any more mail on any issue at all since I've been here last year than on this particular issue. People want to see these tax credits retained. I have talked to a lot of my colleagues in the house on both sides of the aisle and I think those of us in rural areas in particular realize the importance of this to continue the economy moving forward. Of the 100 counties in the state of North Carolina, 90 counties have benefited in this historic tax grant so think about that, credit rather. Think about that. 90 out of 100 counties have benefited from this. So this isn't anything that benefits one particular part of the area. But rather it benefits each and every part of the state. And we have several projects going under way right now in our region. And many in the pipeline that are coming down the road that will be impacted by this tax credit going away. Another thing that I would like all of you to think about is that the department of cultural resources if this bill is not pass this provision and this bill is not retained, the department of cultural resources is gonna take a significant hit in the number of people in their employ, this is within the department itself. Who in fact are out there promoting one of the biggest industries we have in our state. Which is travel and tourism. This is critical. I know the folks in the other chamber are not big on tax credits of any kind. But I ask each and everyone of you when considering your vote on this bill to think about the implications of not supporting it or rising to speak against it. This is something that clearly every county in our state can benefit from. And so I would encourage you to join me in supporting this effort. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Member's we're gonna go at ease for a few moments. The clerk informs me that she needs to, that we need to do a complete reset and that would also kill the mic's. So the house will be at ease for just a few moments while we go through this process. We have to go back to 1963 rules of where we're having to stand and do voice votes.

If tough stuff from the fact of them and as a vastly 17% to 762 and a tough represented as the Mac in that sense that the famine let's end of this-that-and that's a five-that-that's to me that after the fact that 5-5-Jan whilst the fish of sessions, channel and most of the last opportunity that will have to address the phone and said the issue five for latest word from Milan represent the film goes to North Carolina and on five against the death penalty , says such an from an Alford from the governor's office is closing two women got milk and as close to bring home bills that would involve economic development of those times when necessary to create jobs in North Carolina jobs in the Daily News for the people that live here < history we're dealing with 500 jobs go away if you're better jobs to go away from coast to the man's jobs of people need to two were talking about 7200 flows from jobs with as many as $66,000 , $15,000 term jobs that's what we're doing with today , the proposed 5-727 272 rule changes to come as a system that we have for refundable tax credit that the amendment two would take a chance to present refundable tax credit for the year in which every (773)-745-9552 instead of 25% tax credit for the production what we soon to ms and-time (SPEAKER CHANGES) 5% the expenditures for this credit would be capped at a total of $30,000,000 it will also require independent study with that one year. By the strength of the evaluation version instead, the former head of the five comeback in the session to ½ and credits offenses NFL independent information that we can look as good as credible enhancement have been biased fishing and there was a panelist study that was done by UC State professor that was the four by the motion picture association and suggested that the calls to the state was 60,000,001 issue that was staffed for the legislature that we can say a concert for theft and that the calls to be assumed was in excess of only the decision and Mr. (SPEAKER CHANGES) That is something that many students studied by an independent agency such as the PK so often, and accurate unbiased opinion also to allow this to the look and two in saying that move a tax credit isn't likely to make nuclear program is the way, if that's the case of a system of grant program should have an investor from the great program should have leased a civilian money to appeal to a list two Russian combat business earlier, long session to a transfer from the same issue + I would like to put young people, and that those turn to acquire Getty and introduction to a channel of good wishes to be determined with a Pentium- decibel ??........

of each location where the filming was done. This would be an excellent tourism and economic development tool. What this would do to the film business in North Carolina, it would bring us to what is called a lower tier 1 rating. There are different tier ratings throughout the United States for different states with different incentive programs. This would bring us to the lower part of tier 1, which you have to have to be competitive. If you're not in tier 1 bracket, then you're not competitive at all. This would at least keep present film production in place for one year. No we will not get anymore Iron Man 2. No we will not get any more blockbuster films because we be at the lower of that tier 1. But what it will do, it will ensure that our TV productions will continue. And if you think about it, what is more important, if you're looking at jobs, you will have more jobs through TV productions than you will on film. Because films come, films go. But when you have a series such as we did in Wilmington, with Dawson's Creek. And then One Tree Hill that lasted six or eight years. That is steady, steady employment for the film workers. And that's just those two productions in Wilmington. This will also address the desire, once again to attract not only more TV shows, but with more permanent crew base, capital investment, and permanent employment base. Without totally walking away from the TV and movie productions. While I respect everyone who is working on the proposed budget, and I mean that both from the house and the senate, the proposed ten million, six month grant program simply will not work. It is the death penalty. It's not enough money to even keep the current production for the three major film series that are in Wilmington now, which include Under the Dome, and Sleepy Hollows excuse me, it'll run out. Under the Dome for instance is already finished production, they're left. They've left, they're waiting to see what we do. If we don't do something that will get them to come back, their gone. Most likely to Georgia. We're losing business now to Georgia. We'll lose far more business to Georgia if we don't do the right thing. I know that some of you are against incentives philosophically. And I respect that. I know that some of you are against a film tax credit that results in North Carolina giving a check to a company that is located outside North Carolina. I respoect that. I know that some of you just don't care about the film business, and I can respect that. But what I'm asking you today is to put those personal feelings aside and look at what is good for the people who live in the state of North Carolina. And those people who work in North Carolina that do not want to have their jobs lost. Do not want to have to move to Georgia or some place else to work. Do not want to uproot their families and children from schools and the communities where they live, to go find employment. Because if you think these people are just going to go out and find another job, I'm sorry you are incorrect. Because these are very specialized jobs that these people do. And they will go to where the opportunities are if they're not in North Carolina. And that can't help this state. I know the question arises, well if we do this, where is the money going to come from. One of the good things I say about this amendment, is that fact that if you do this incentive program for one year while we do this independent study to help us to determine how it's going to go permanent when we come back in the long session. It's to give us, once again, I'm very emotional about this and I'm trying to be overly emotional. All of you know how passionate I am about this. I've never worked on anything as hard in my life, as I have these film incentives. I called somebody earlier, I was the county commissioner 16 years, chairman for 5. I've never worked as hard all together for those 16 years as I have on these film incentives. So please

The fashioned Lemoore most true because I have to say I'm from those unhealthful 42-plus people who have a mistake MM in the film business that led this was slain session go down in history has shown films as a nurse to remove an astronomy, that was the money come from public defender that the cinnamon if you think of the deals will have the money and watching the best of seven leaders from around the house post columnist and the duty of a program like this the fact that you'll pay the money flow for the productions of five than they have to go through a lot of lawsuits and the defense (NMS, you have all these people, working for the movie industry their resellers they're paying taxes to go out of the things we did sales tax woman because sales tax what the movie industry purchases while making the production's all of these businesses that have used it was closed with a label her people those capable of offerings is a slight disadvantage to filter down to fit in,(SPEAKER CHANGES) I can totally unbelievable that opens them of the money they make and sell them with clever viewership for car rentals and egos: a little people pay with their homes may just as calling on all the trickle down the fitness of this very difficult pitcher finger oldest player him of all the revenue that will come into the state that says the gems, 652 of them just a few seconds to include the - the statute if you try consideration all those things that is where the money will come from seven conclusion of functions to speak for me to finish list support the Sonoma was sent to the senate and the Stanford in a positive manner together an ISP Pleas for years from 19 12, says agenda for Mac and that represented a rising tide of that agenda as the foot of a game in the eyes of many, seven-channel which means it's time you see when once again that from one Representative Esteban CMA one year program as a $40,000,000 cap for industry that we no creation of 40004200 dollars to the state the plan that money is fungible as just last week government-shot lead ACM they're to talk about 500 jobs would end $36,000,000 that has made honors those they provide jobs ,(SPEAKER CHANGES) says claim and analyze their program to two million isolate this for some of the Lanes as the creates four times as many jobs , not the end of the few that that's a tough nut and said its question that that's a psychological practices that this man says this is a program that's what you're saying to the 20 , of any shell that benefit because they came at the MCI the fact the facts are that the test, and the money from the fairway, that just ended, and half the fat buff-wheel jumps back and ended up as we talk about tax reform in this day we talk about them and the fact that action for the facts everything, taxes on businesses, you must-have the project as a tough, you are definitely consistently automate that understand that means them jobs created, jobs that shocking doubts that, you a very jobs that Huffington now faces a tough, and they closed out SA, is not the time to buy a finales despite the things I've had two act and support this and then mistaken for a bug ??...

The facts as resilient year that the vendor , Gemini, please pass up in my estimate when the contest for the record company on the situation here just the members understand is that medicating for the actual governors and out of $36,000,000 to the city business that is so everyone in the stands, $36,000,000 over 12 years when you currently debating is 40,000,000 for one year to make sure we understand from the standpoint that root of La Plata says the Jennifer-produced am a Citibank and then let them as a fascinating and I-Mia issue but not at all (SPEAKER CHANGES) come from somewhere next year and that will be possibly having to replace Cali’s new taxes from the stage of the faces of this waste-five-byte in his district mailto of Collier districts nothing that study for the next year about this one here that we updated study from the fiscal analyst this course of today on this exact question about that should make you a doubt as to last at least two e-mail this column you wonder, enough we'll come before the end of it when he got with 20 11th and did any of that and in tax credits claim to feel so strongly that looks a lot of direction Davis' as we do for 20 when every year as the conclusion of this is about five times more jobs have been created by the name dollars of tax relief that the film credits that conclusion last as the basic economic fallacy that some listed as inactive year following two is this idea than just-ended the topics as the lead, existed but for began life in enough to understand that there's something unique about the film credits for all of the third with these signs saying how the earned income tax credit of the ADC, leave remaining list of credits that we have a North Carolina that you get even if you'll pay taxes and less likely a ballet, what they and the state spends just about the North Carolina to get the full amount of credit them a standoff distribution rights and other money come from sources said they pay no income tax such acts that melds to a column that your new Yorker where the RTC-weekend in North Carolina we just mail tax to corporations because I spent some money in North Carolina - as he offered to him a speech is one of these credits but all I can live session and yesterday, (SPEAKER CHANGES) weekly testified in favor of the lifesaver without the historic preservation tax credit that it was the least harmful mark rates this is so well in the field as the least return on investment is a negative return on investment that is a Turkey place that had allowed, says age of a match for some contracts to the deal that ms-AM in the box that my colleagues is this some of them back for people in this district, and a buffer between my district you know those of the $40,000,000 that come out here they come from money paid by taxpayers in North Carolina in my district in the list to become some people who own Retail Stores, some people in long pond from operations ago from people who know more and more that the court and work is wage earners for different attitude of Smalley slips and I just as those hardworking people in my district to use from Hollywood productions, with their hard earned tax dollars I just cannot be the government got to the people in my district of the Wiltern not think it's wrong to take money out some people's pockets and others as the city light and pay taxes and north Carolina’s ordination, shot a right to remove the second is in my office two years ago after finance committee meeting that, can this be the theme of chaos as a sales-tax reform for that, says the democrats, representative for us as the Midwest, the fashion of the toughest out if he ??......

It's distinctly twice this is a question up over this damage amidst a statement of that money coming out of my district to my just how that might affect the magistrate if we dubious up you ask that you can you make a statement method stands as one of you definitely not the general math oriented was while request definitely comes out of the general fund frequented his taxes and less noticed like a Muslim Americans October 7 from web will let your genitals and we hope that's not a revelation everything we comes out of the mouths pocket and every dollar we spent the macroeconomics will so look out for people in this debate yesterday i.e. for this now I know the business that will come to North Carolina if they didn't have to pay taxes here and if we paid 25% of the expenses is enough is an industry underwent a equipment track the website of the film industry is nobody else will his list' comment heard up to what you wanted if you wanted to club manufacturers become North Carolina utilities by 25% of the expenses of the committee that will so much for this thing the dance was over this land is owned out to the illogical blogger autonomous or use necklaces with that money would produce absolutely nothing to get the results that feel credit up to the film industry wants us to believe so instead of them in my district vote against visit if you don't want to feel like it is about you but no missiles were for the best as the gentleman from Craven representatives Ali Rimes general has legitimate amendment John Shattuck said the government plans it must first take away this night a group of everything to the representative said it's time for my district is coming from our pockets were paying this one interesting question up and said basically this will so this is not just for the sheer process for handling an opportunity because the list back on the happen with an investment leave wants to see him leave but I find I was absolutely good for pain management of jobs and strength of 40 million unless my calculations around $10,000 a job is not a lot of money via that was mentioned about this experiment is about $30,000 a job analysis can him as significant as if the film industry cannot survive in England and North Carolina vendor not being there that's the way it works it intends positive for $11 and 5% of conditions on iPhone when I apply for this position told the paper that I that I don't tax incentives as part of the reason they hired me when dropped out of my pocket and corporations you know and I know that I wouldn't be here if they were making money and affinity for if taken by 2000 centers around the causes and supervision of Potential pandemic perpetuity of our incentives are supposed to get the industry had at least that's what I heard by the Senate's personal account (if you are and then continue to technician Unit is an unmistakable beginning asked about the business for what purpose does the gentleman from Cmdr.'s representative in rise spoke only member gentleman has formulated amendment etc. of arms did to be understood that my opposition to this amendment is nothing to get strips and I is in these five felt enough guest film industry as such is folks in my district who have been involved Jamaican homeland hunger games been made and largely my district some opposition has nothing to do with them industry as such but

I is financial incentives I believe that they should be illegal because I believe that there is the government overstepping his bounds exceed his authority to take money out the taxpayers pocket and looking up some special chosen in that the bitching letters in the main palm I will strongly oppose it and on the Internet about Legg Mason plans among some people in my district but everybody opposed incentives on principle when they put me here and this last primary 162 & about against the person who was very strongly in favor of incentives enough of it to a standalone responsible names representing the people I represent him not special-interest but however contact and average citizens of corruption when they soon and there may try to fight it so with respect to representatives of against Tamil film industry as such I just has produced benefits for August as the gentleman from Mecklenburg represented out and arrives with bitumen gentleman has the floor to debate him and him and the member since amendment I've listened to debate and I were an element of it. I think we need to focus in on the thing about and that's bit.ly I keep hearing good as it was a unique approach and it's so unique that that's why you should oppose what seems to me that if you go to the Atlanta industry user and an additional is a very interesting On the biofuel tax is In such a way that will carry a particular amount of money it is everything to did you go back to get back seems to be real similar to what the is being criticized with Kuwaiti film incentives were now not sure but I understand it is the similar a Over a new of. So it will actually so this is something unique your seconds go out into opportunity to him by an actionable absolute agriculture as well as's American film industry jobs that this is an important economic and reliable sentence in America. She is directed not only will employ people in splendid money in my district but will draw the people you inform the surrounding counties that made and to work in the district and it will go out and surrounding counties for location settlement at so this is an industry that catches not just particular districts that multiple districts employs people all over the state this is something that I believe members are to be supposed and I is you to do that in our logistic to know that list this world to string positively for what purpose does the gentleman from Brunswick division of how arrives to debate the gentleman has authority to make women under Specter? How saw made a stage like this about three years ago waste into the tax credit as an economist smartphone at that time and as mentioned there that we had in was one-time textiles tobacco in journalism supporting our economy and water that is gone

The valid tobaccos many times too many taken a poll that sells jam that Janus, well while am a share of all the time the charges they led to a fight about the sense that signed the few signs of change and a few things become more clear the lancers seven, says family history of the century that some as a project basis as I mentioned 12 years planned five, said as much for me the way those two Susan mentioned, spent about 15 years about straight in the long trail 178 years of age and would somehow missed a word and their families and above the Wilmington there's some in a jam its approach with two of them at spread around last year and optional senate and in the eye can explain the legal docs on that tradition Saint Andrews NMS said that the consent of that sum that about half of a loving income strain the fungible, 5 to 9 strewn about that SM and about half the income stream 5000 AM manor $60,000 that if a Physician sales tax and same income tax allowed to Spain and led them to your whole agenda project: sense of projects with a 1:10, senior MF,(SPEAKER CHANGES) taxes and the time left on that bench and $40,000,000 in income times their tax rates says Jackson and their own them from taxing of the playoffs insider must make up half of all went after the weather this does not include the buses from the dilemma, spare all that, is that some do business in this you to say this as a building that they telling them that takes a bundle of the nine other people are worth their understanding of mention the festival's said a measure 500 jobs are, I am sending 534, where are the masters DOS man with a general says the center for those am Leon Johnson Products and welcome an ephemeral the study commission that aside as limiting what this says some allowed towns supplement of a major many say five and one that Angelos is this for a tremendously middle cell four which is across America in Wilmington nine this channel-led 579 Sebastian-level in Iraq and out of it, (SPEAKER CHANGES) Rollie of Nancy the decades ago and MFN Times selects a little international film tells them off, but then this just some example and show them into production there's a law that allows them in your district as well and also some day of the spec L La Plata says agenda from ash from the folly of the meal for close to ms-ms-ms, of-the- I am not that this as a second-half of edition of the 70-fifth, and just last week and still couldn't find them realize a pasta into a lot until I realized I was in Zebulon cent value of the economic gain a study by the suspects than one business was a little ones, the eldest television series about whether that, that might come-from the gentleman's if that continues to have a form of a human famous figure that for the census ms-ms-DOS from a friend on the left of-the- , two-sad about his business trends in message and the judge and then to close them and mask an end to have likes 4000 jobs disappearing was sentenced to 5000 of the Savannah Somalia knowledge of the Nevada judges five Spanish table or some fed officials questioned if you will then the judge and a lot of animal control station woman slow to take effect the families of two this year says ??.....

17 years ago from Tennessee he was on WECT in Wilmington, and he said, and you'd see his children playing the yard he had a wife and two kids at the time, 17 years later and he said that he moved here and he's been steadily working 10 to 12 months a year since he got here in this industry, and that, he would definitely have to move should the ?? program expire. And that was last year before ?? a year and a half away, the expiration date. But you can turn out the lights folks I mean really? the screen ?? the gate guard and the manager will be there for security purposes, they've already slowed down planning in anticipation of this deadline, they'll stop planning as soon as we fail to pass some kind of decent support which the grant program has now mentioned is not enough, and it is up front there, this is way after the fact, this is not paid upfront, they have to spend the money, close the books, apply for it, and the only time the tax people get involved is, all that's in their books and ?? all these taxes are being collected all year and the year and a half, whatever it is all that time so, cash flow might actually be a positive thing one study said we made a dollar 52 in taxes for every dollar that was in opposition to the study you heard about but that was the economic study that was done, ?? this study was done independently from the film industry or from the staff that's, not including all the, the census data from the workers, and there were a lot of workers that were not counted because of the companies and contractors that were used so that nobody has a handle unless they go out in the field and find these people and actually do the work. So basically folks what we got here is a choice to reduce the program if you will cut the program basically in half, you've stayed in it a year doing independent study come back with a lot more information, more fair, not one end of the spectrum or the other, and come back with a chance to do something in the long session very meaningful for the entire state now lets eliminate all incentives reduce corporate taxes to zero whatever that is we'll have a chance to come back and do it on a logical basis so let's don't fail to consider everything, let's don't fail to pass something that's gonna continue these 4000 jobs thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] for what purpose does the gentlemen from Rutherford representative Haeger rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speaking on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentlemen has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker you listened, sit here listened, I think most of you understand, those of you in finance know what my position is on this, but I say Representative Owler talked about studies being fair, let's talk about where the studies came from, the first one I read was from our commerce department, said 300 jobs were really created since 2005 and we spent 250 million dollars since then on this credit, The other study was a reaction to the film tax industry paid study from NC state and representative Milis could tell you about that, it said we're losing money on this, I'm not sure, I know which one wasn't independent [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, I'll yield for everything. [SPEAKER CHANGES] from what purpose does the lady from New Henev Representative Hamilton rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask my good friend representative Haeger a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker representative Haeger do you know how much money the film industry has spent in north Carolina in the past first 6 months of 2014? These numbers are being reported by our very own NC department of commerce [SPEAKER CHANGES] representative Hameson I know which ?? my taxpayers in north Carolina 60 to 80 million dollars a year that's what I do know, I know that other industries have spent a lot more I know the opportunity cost is never being considered so that number is really not that important when you look at what we spent and what other folks have spent we could say lets give a twenty five percent tax credit to the build industry in North Carolina it wouldn't matter still is the wrong thing to do [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? Mr. Speaker [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentlemen yield to additional questions? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. speaker I yield to all questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] he yields [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you. Representative Haeger I'll answer the question for you in 2013 the industry spent over 360 million dollars in north Carolina and were returned in a rebate 61 million dollars, this year so far in the first six months the industry has spent 268 million dollars in the state. It looks as if we may spend [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? What purpose does the Gentlemen from Harnet Representative Lewis rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Inquiry to the chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] the gentlemen may state his inquiry [SPEAKER CHANGES] respectfully I think the gentlemen yielded to an inquiry.

Is this an inquiry? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Chair, the Chair will accept the gentleman’s point. Would ask the lady to have a question mark on the end of whatever the lady is saying. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I'd like to be respective of my time also. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank You. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. I think I've made the point. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. If there was a question in that, I will say facebook spent a billion dollars in Rutherford county and we have yet to write them a check. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Maryland, I've got up on my computer, if you guys want to see this. House of Cards threatens to leave Maryland if they come up short on film credits. Maryland film credit prior to this was seven point five million dollars capped. They're arguing about taking it to about eleven or eighteen million. We spend sixty million dollars. We spend two hundred and fifty million in the last eight years. You know, the things that I've heard are talked about that this is an important economic tool. You know, the airlines, like NASCAR, the airlines and NASCAR get the same type. Well, Representative ?? , they don't. They get what's called a credit. This is a check written to them. This is only part I know we do. We write a check out of our treasury to these folks that take it and go somewhere else with. Now, again, like Representative Collins says, it come, that comes out of all our pockets. Comes out of our constituents pockets. Four thousand film workers, what Representative Dollar said. I guess if we pay twenty-five percent of them, we just got a thousand new state employees. So, should we extend the health care to them? Maybe that's next. Now guys, I'll tell you what we need to do with this forty million dollars. Everybody in here has said that education is the number one priority, right? Everybody shake your head yes or no. We've got issues we've got to put in education. We've got twenty-four million dollars in our budgets non-recurring next year out f the TA's. We need to put that, that forty million dollars into there. Now you can vote to put forty million dollars any where you want. But, my no vote on this amendment will be to put forty million dollars back in education. You can do what you want. You can sit there and say education's the most important thing and you said education, everyone of you in here said ?? . I said that education is the best economic advantage we've got. It's the best economic tool we have. We've got a chance to prove it today guys. Put more money in education. Vote no on this amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, the Chair observes that there are two lights on. Those two lights are Speaker Tillis who the Chair intends to call on next unless another light comes on. And the additional light is Representative Davis. The Chair would intend to take a vote at the conclusion of both of those members speaking. If there are other members that would like to debate the amendment, please turn on your light and prepare to do so at this time. Otherwise, again, the Chair is going to take the debate of Speaker Tillis and then concluding remarks by the maker of the amendment, Representative Davis. Are there further members wishing to debate or discuss the amendment other than those two members? For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative for, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, are we going to have many more bills today? [SPEAKER CHANGES] We have plenty of good work to be done. There will be, to answer the gentleman’s question, there are some conference reports that may be added to today's calendar, depending, if that can be done by consent to get those out of the way. And we're trying to deal will bills as they come back from the Senate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state an additional inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Will you take that in consideration as we move forward with those bills with the discussion that we had on this one? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, it is the Chairs intent to deal with this amendment. I believe there may be additional amendments we will conclude, we will get all the amendments heard on this bill, then we will allow the debate on this bill, the we will vote on this bill that's before us. Hopefully second and third readings today and then we'll move onto the other bills including any conference reports that are added to the calendar. For what does the gentleman from Rutherford, Representative Hager, desire additional debate on the amendment? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor for to debate the amendment a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] As always, in my ADD activities, I forgot a point that I was wanting to make. Forty million dollars, guys, at forty-five thousand dollars a year, provides nine hundred teaching jobs. Forty million dollars at thirty thousand dollars a year provides fourteen hundred TA jobs. Where do you want to put your money? [SPEAKER CHANGES] And the clerk pointed out to the Chair that because this is a role call bill that we will have to have third reading sometime tomorrow anyway so we'll only be on for second reading. The gentleman from Mecklenburg, Speaker Tillis, is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, it must be that time of year. The seat mates are in disagreement with each other. The Speaker and the the Speaker protempor are in disagreement with each other. It's, it's, we're at a, we're actually having a debate that I first had back when I was the minority whip and I was in finance and I was working with some of my Republican colleagues and some of my Democratic colleagues who were opposed...

Goes to repealing the film tax incentive back in I think 2010 in finance and we were successful with that. I, I actually am disappointed that we didn't get to a point to where we could put together a program that, that would take this political issue off of the table. I do firmly believe that this is an important policy for us, and I will tell you, a lot of people said referring to Hollywood, if you followed what the California legislature has done to the film industry in California, Hollywood is really the movie capital of the world in name only. Most of the major productions are no longer occurring in California because California has made it impossible for them to make the numbers work. If you talk about Maryland, the reason that, that House of Cards would be in Maryland has little to do with their film tax incentives, it has a lot to do with the fact that they film on location in DC, so there's an economic reason why they go there, even though the incentives may not be as attractive. The biggest problem that I think we have with this film industry is it's difficult to comprehend it as a project based industry. The forty two hundred people who are employed in this state who support the film industry don’t go to ABC company that manufactures widgets. They're an industry that exists to support a continuous flow of projects that come to this state. And they're able to go from project to project to continue to be employed, to continue to buy homes, to continue to bring folks here to vacation with their families, and to pay sales taxes and a number of other things. I actually believe that if we do not extend the film tax credit, you will see a secession of a lot of productions in North Carolina. And then a year or so from now, you all will come back and you will make the changes that other states have who ultimately realize once it went away, it did have a negative economic impact on their economy. Michigan is a good example, more recently. Tennessee and Georgia are states that we look at to be more competitive, in terms of our tax environment. A lot of our discussion about tax reform is how can we be more like Tennessee, how could we be more like Louisiana, how could we be more like Georgia. You know what they also have in common? They have some of the most attractive frameworks for the film industry. And they will get business that right now they're just going to Wilmington, and by the way, Representative Jeter, I think your, the Capital Police say your car is being towed. But, but we are putting North Carolina's cities and towns on the map. It's not just about Wilmington. It's about Nascar. It's about Cabarrus County. It's about, it's about Charlotte. It's about Asheville. It’s about several different locations across this state that have professional people working in this industry twelve months out of the year with relatively good paying jobs as well. So I for one think, I stand with Representative Davis in the same way I stood with Representative McComas on this issue a couple of years ago in this chamber. What I'd like to do is have our members come back next year and get this right so it's no longer the political football that it continues to be. But I think in the meantime, it would be prudent to go ahead and extend the sunset, get to the work on a framework that, that would be more like a JMAC or a JDIG or something else that I think most of the member will be comfortable with. Some members will never be comfortable with any of the incentives. I've never been one who was completely for them or completely against them. But in this particular case, I do believe it's something that deserves further scrutiny, and that in the meantime, keeps it in place so that we keep that industry in place, so that hopefully next year you all, the one thing I'm certain of I won't be voting on it. You all will come back and actually create a framework that's sustainable to continue to allow this very attractive industry to be a part of this state. I hope you'll vote for the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash, Representative Collins rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To, to see if our Speaker would yield to a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Mecklenburg yield to the gentleman from Nash? He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker I heard you, I agree with a lot of what you said, but I heard you mention that in trying to be like some of the other states, like Louisiana and Georgia and so forth, somebody put something on my desk the other day, and I do read these things, agree with them or not. And it said that I believe it was Louisiana it was one of these states you mentioned was increasing their film tax credit to forty percent. So my question is, if we're gonna be competitive with these other states, how high are we gonna have to go on this film credit in order to, in order to stay competitive? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins, I think it's an excellent question. I think one thing that we need to do is rather than going on the internet or reading the latest piece of paper that somebody sets on the desk, and I think probably the arguments on both sides could be easily discredited, just like the argument that suddenly if, if this film tax credit goes away next year, we'd have forty million extra

dollars for education, that’s a false assumption about the availability that would come from that policy. I think what we need to do is put all of the information on the table and get the industry here and get people engaged looking at the state to figure out to what extent maybe we’re being gamed by some of these productions but in many other cases figuring out a more attractive, more competitive, more sustainable, way to put together a film incentive program that makes sense. [SPEAKER CHANGES] One follow-up question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Mecklenburg yield to the additional question ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Absolutely [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? but I am only asking this question to make a statement. Are you aware that the piece I mentioned that was put on my desk was put on my desk by the most vociferous proponent of film credits in this chamber, not by someone who is opposing the film credits? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, doesn’t matter to me, because what it really comes down to is that we are, I think we’re making a decision like I have said to some of my colleagues, my Republican colleagues, if this incentive, this is all about responsibility in our votes. I believe if this incentive goes away that you will see shrinkage, a contraction of this industry. You’ll take responsibility for that, my guess is that creating this memorable moment on the floor is that a year or so from know you’ll go, you know what we probably went a little bit too far and if we’d taken the time to really figure out how to do it in an orderly fashion we would have had something between what currently exists and nothing at all, or some of the credits that we’re trying to put in or that have been proposed in the budget. I’m just saying a more orderly process vs. the all or nothing process to me would be a better way to deal with this and provide us a steadier less disruptive impact that’s likely to occur if we make it clear to the industry that this incentive is going away for good. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Michaux rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d like to ask the speaker a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Mecklenburg yield to gentleman from Durham? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’ll be the first time in my tenure I would be honored [SPEAKER CHANGES] He does. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well I appreciate you answering my question and I happen to agree with you on the statement that you were making. My question comes to you as a logistical question more than anything else, and let me set it up this way, Mr. Speaker, if you don’t mind. The Senate is voting on the budget this afternoon and will probably vote again in the morning. This bill has to go back to the Senate, what do you think is gonna be the situation tomorrow morning? Because I’m almost certain that they’re also gonna vote on their adjournment motion also. What do you think the chances of this bill are once it leaves here ?? passes with this amendment being taken care of in the Senate? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, the Senate works in mysterious ways and I think that the calendar does as well, I think the one thing that I’m certain of, is unless we pass this amendment and send it to them, there no vehicle to potentially work with the Senate to get a positive outcome, so this failing today makes it impossible. This staying alive today makes it possible and I’ll be working to try and make that possible, should it pass. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from New Hanover, Representative Davis is recognized for concluding debate on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In conclusion, I would just ask you to consider what I am gonna say in making up your mind whether or not to vote for this amendment. If we pass this amendment this is not a permanent action, what we are doing if we pass this amendment is replacing a proposed ten million, six month grant that will not work, and will be the kiss of death to forty two hundred plus jobs and over fifteen thousand part-time jobs. We’re replacing that with something that is a one year extension that will allow an independent study to be done that will assist this House and the Senate during the next long session to come up with a viable permanent solution. I respectfully ask you to vote for this amendment, pass the amendment, and lets send this to the Senate, so we can work together to keep this tremendous economic engine in North Carolina, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The question before the House is the adoption of Amendment 1 sent forth by Representative Davis to the House committee substitute for Senate Bill 763. Submitting favoring passage of the amendment will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote.

The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. Seventy seven having voted in the affirmative and thirty six in the negative, the amendment is adopted. The gentleman from Pender, Representative Millis is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Millis moves to amend the bill on page seventeen lines four, five by inserting between the lines the following language to read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Pender, Representative Millis has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir, thank you mister Speaker for the opportunity to explain this amendment to you. And I want to explain the amendment first, and then I'll speak about the reasons why this amendment, in light of your most recent vote, using the same logic would actually be proper. What this amendment does is, it allows for every taxpayer in North Carolina to be able to get twenty five cents for every dollar that they spend in our state. So whether you are a farmer, a builder, accountant, an attorney, a trucker, a pharmacist, and even our newly created landscape contractor, all citizens, all citizens can receive twenty five cents of every dollar that they spend, and it is structured exactly like this film tax credit that you all just passed was actually established. And so I'm gonna preface my comments after explaining the amendment to say I'm just using the logic that was just put forth. I'm not saying I agree with the actual long term aspects, but I'll say this. Theory application in history proves that a uniform tax code leads to greater prosperity than anything else. And as a result, if it is prosperous for our state to be able to receive economic gain from giving to one in terms of for every dollar twenty five cents, then I say why not give it to all? If it works for one industry in regard to spending, then why wouldn't it work for agriculture for your farmer, whether a small farmer or a large farmer? Why wouldn't it work for forestry? Why would it not work for any other aspects that we all stand for today? If logically, if this returns value to our state to do it for this previous amendment, then again we're gonna need hip waiters for all the cream that we're gonna be walking around next session if we pass this bill. So I humbly ask that you support this measure to uniformly allow every citizen that you have the privilege to represent to receive twenty five cents for every dollar they spend in this state. I'm happy to answer any questions and I urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Dollar rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Inquiry of the chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there a physical note on this amendment? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The, the, the body will be at ease. The chair will inquire of the bill jacket. Madam clerk, is there a fiscal note? There is not a fiscal note. Does the gentleman wish to request a fiscal note? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would request a fiscal note as it impacts the 2014-2015 budget. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It is the opinion of the chair that a fiscal note would be required in this case, therefore a, therefore a fiscal note being asked, it is the intention of the chair to rule that the amendment is ineligible. Does the Pender, Representative Millis rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Dollar a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Wake yield to the gentleman from Pender? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Dollar, is it your understanding that just in the same fashion that the previous amendment we voted on to extend the film tax credit had zero economic impact on this year's budget and therefore zero impact by way of the fiscal note because those monies aren't realized until the next year, then therefore it's not necessary for me to have a fiscal note for this measure as well because those monies are realized at a later term. So, again, at the end of the day it just seems very out of order whenever we know the end result for fiscal note to require such whenever we're in the twelfth hour of the session and it's really unnecessary. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, to answer your, answer your question, there was a physical note on the amendment that was prepared, so although your assumption may well be correct, there is not, there has not been an actual physical note prepared for this specific language of this amendment and that is what the, that's what the requirement is. So physical research would need to look at the particular language of, of your amendment and determine what the fiscal impact would be, if any.

Follow up mr speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentlemen from Wake yield to an additional question from the gentlemen from ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you representative Dollar for that articulation. As a result its my understanding this bill is gonna be heard for a third reading tomorrow. If I'm able to approach fiscal staff to actually get a fiscal note to say that it is zero just like the previous amendment would. Would you be in favor of supporting this amendment tomorrow? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm not making a commitment on whether or not I'm supporting the amendment. What I'm stating is that the amendment requires a physical note. The impact of that note, is in some respects, you get to that once you actually get the note and see what it says. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Millis the chair would point out to the members that the chair would not necessarily rule your amendment out of order. But the chair would agree that the entire bill would have to be displaced until fiscal note was run. However if the gentlemen would like to withdraw the amendment and run the amendment tomorrow that might achieve the gentleman's goals. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr speaker if that is able to be realized. If I am able to run this amendment tomorrow. And it be ?? and it be allowed I'm willing to withdraw. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I may not be in the chair tomorrow but I do believe whoever will be in the chair tomorrow, knowing that it will be on for third reading, the gentlemen has properly filed the amendment and will be allowed to run this amendment. Thanks. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For what purpose does the gentlemen from Richmond, representative Goodman rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Inquiring the chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentlemen may state his inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you think we could find out how many member would have to disqualify themselves because of rule 27.1 on this amendment?[SPEAKER CHANGES] Maybe thats the drama for tomorrow. Does the gentlemen now wish to withdraw his amendment at this time?[SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes Mr Speaker [SPEAKER CHANGES] The amendment has been withdrawn. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate on the bill? For what purpose does the gentlemen from Wake, representative Stam rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentlemen has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen I don't know how I'll vote on the bill, but since its now gonna head into oblivion. But maybe a point of jollity might be in order since this is for the end of the session. We have the same debate every session. I remember Bill Owens and Prior Gibson they said these jaded things. And they said this thing may have a fiscal note of 30 million dollars. But it pays for itself because it doesn't actually go into effect unless people get the jobs. You know that argument. So I prepare an amendment to double it. To expand the limitations so that they're much less so that more people can get it. And I said representative Owens, since your bill saves us so much money can we save twice as much. And we said we cant afford that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentlemen from Nash, representative Collins rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] See if representative Howard would yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the lady yield for the gentlemen from Nash? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] She yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you representative Howard. Representative Howard there were added to this bill in finance. Would you summarize for us of what the subjects for most of those amendments were? What the subject was. It was the same subject for almost all of them. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. One of the amendments that passed today was to restore and extend the historic tax credit for the meals and for the non income producing properties. That was one of the amendments. Theres going to be. Now that credit is scheduled to sunset 1.1.15 currently. But with the amendment that may set out, I believe that would move it out to, let me find my sheet. That would move it out to January 1, 2020. The cost of doing that, Its going to be about 10 million dollars in the year 1516. 1 11 million dollars in 1617, 12 million dollars in 1718. And another 12 million dollars in 1819.

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[SPEAKER] Jackson, Chair. Senator Rucho, Barringer, and Apodaca. Conference of the House of Representatives. Representative Daughtry, Chair. Representative Stam, Faircloth, Davis, Heinz and Murray. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen the Chair understands that the rules Chair is confirmed with the manardo either Representative Larry Hall and that there does not appear to be objection. However the chair will allow any member to raise an objection without of objections, Senate Bill 648 will be added to todays calendar. Is there objection? So, Senate bill 648 article read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To the President and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The Conference is a part, to resolve the differences between the Senate and the House of Representatives, on Senate Bill 648 the Bill of Tideland to create transparency. The Conference Representatives and the House of Representative and Daughtry's report concretes for the Senates. Senator Jackson, Chair. Senator Rucho, Barringer, and Apodaca. Conference of the House of Representatives. Representative Daughtry, Chair. Representative Stam, Faircloth, Davis, Heinz and Murray. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Daughtry's is recognized for a motion and to debate that motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker I'm willing concur in the conference report most of the provision in this conference report you have heard on this floor on many occasions. What I've a essential liability. I would call, if the speaker would allow me, to call Representative Shaffer to explain that part of the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm sorry Representative Daughtry please restate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If you don't mind calling on Representative Shaffer to respond regarding on the essential liability part of the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shaffer is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. The particular provision that Representative Daughtry's referring to occurs in part 8 of the bill that limits successor asbestosis limited liability. This is a very narrow provision. A pro business provision that really focuses on companies that acquired other companies that were engaged in the abestess production prior to 1972 when OSHA put out their regulation that asbestosis production was unlawful. What has happened in these very narrow context's that you have companies that have acquired these asbestosis producing companies through these acquisitions and mergers and then the acquiring company is required to.. their held liable for the asbestosis production that they never engaged in. So what this particular provision does is, that it limits their liability too, and caps it at the fair market value of the gross assets of the transferring company. The time of the transfer ?? fair market value so its upward adjusted to reflect inflation. A very important point about this is that it's for perspective claims only the effective date is about six months so it gives plaintiffs and plaintiffs attorneys the opportunity to file claims over the next six months if they feel that is appropriate but at the point in time it would limit that liability and offer these companies who never in their history engaged in that kind of production. This has been a bipartisan effort across the country.Twenty one other states have similar legislation so we would like to join our neighbor to the south and South Carolina has done the same thing in this pro business piece of legislation. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Daughtry's recognized to debate the motion a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Theres another provision that is in here regarding exclusive forum.This comes really basically out of Delaware. It is simply said that the venue for litigation corporations for the internal affairs of the corporation shall be whatever the corporation decides. In most cases it would be North Carolina, would be the venue. Another provision in this tort reform has to do with patent controls that Representative Murray has been involved in for a long time. We debated that on the floor. I think twice already, if anybody has any questions regarding that. I think Representative Murray would be happy to answer those questions. And the last part of it has to do with transparency, with the attorney general and private contracts. With private attorney contracts with private attorneys it simply limits the contingency fees that can be charged by the attorney general.

lines 40 what those limitations are. It also says that the Attorney General will report to the General Assembly whenever there is a contract of this nature and that basically is the conference report and I recommend you vote for it. I’d be happy to answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the motion, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don’t know what I’m going to do on the motion, but I do want to speak to one provision. I think it’s sort of important to get the full flavor of the discussion. This is one we had, those were on Judiciary B might remember this was part of Representative Jordan’s bill where there was a provision that we dealt with. This asbestosis provision, for what it’s worth, and just so we’re clear about, isn’t quite as clean and clear as it’s made out to be. This is the Crown Cork provision, as I recall. I think. Let me, Mr. Speaker, if I could, before I make my argument, in case I’m wrong, if I could ask Representative Schaffer a quick question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Schaffer, does the lady yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Representative. Am I right that this is the Crown Cork provision, essentially? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. This is related to their particular situation and it was specifically requested that we make it narrow enough that it wasn’t opening the gate to other liability caps. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Now to speak to the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The issue on this is in...and I think there’s arguments both ways, but Crown Cork bought out this company that had significant asbestos liability. Whether Crown Cork knew, didn’t know, hard to know, but there’s certainly ongoing litigation and ongoing plaintiffs involved here. This is an attempt to have some outside limit of liability that Crown Cork is doing across the country. In a sense, they really don’t much care about North Carolina, because we don’t have that many cases relative. Where they really care is Ohio and Pennsylvania and West Virginia. This is setting it up so they can make the same argument in other states, and I understand that. They may have some argument. An argument is that there has to be some outside repose, and we remember the repose issue because we dealt with it from the Supreme Court Decision relating to Asheville and to Jacksonville. There has to be some outside repose, and I think this is an attempt to sort of get at this. But this argument that Crown Cork has made in Judiciary B and they were called on by Representative Michaux and by myself and there were several others on both parties, is this argument that they overtook this company in the 60s and 70s and didn’t know at the time about the asbestosis. OSHA hadn’t been formed and it wasn’t a clear disease is just blatantly false. It’s false because North Carolina in 1935 in our statute, recognized asbestosis as an occupational disease. Regardless of what they knew or didn’t know as it related to other states in the nation, for thirty years prior to the time they assumed the liabilities here, we knew about it and we called it what it was. Let’s just be clear that if we’re cutting off repose, and we may choose as a policy argument to do that, but if we are, we ought not be doing it because this company didn’t know that there were really deep seated healthcare issues here and didn’t know that it was a legal liability. Now, how you view where the repose should be after that is a different story, but I didn’t want it to go on the floor without being said that we are going to be cutting off plaintiffs here who are ill and dying. That’s what we’re doing and we’re doing it for a company that bought the company that had all the liability thirty years after North Carolina determined that asbestosis was an occupational hazard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would Representative Glazier yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Certainly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, since this bill is not retroactive, they still have another five months to file claims, did I miss something in Judiciary B, didn’t you somewhat agree publicly that sixty years was long enough for people to file their claims? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, that’s why I didn’t say I didn’t know how I was going to vote on this. I don’t know where the good policy decision is there and I think there’s an argument by the Crown Court folks that at some point you have to cut it off. I didn’t know...

Know that enough in that committee because we really just explored it that day, to know and I think we postponed decision on both of these because we didn’t really know enough, among other reasons. All my point was is I don’t people voting on the floor on this important fairly important issue. Particularly, when we are cutting off plaintiffs’ rights, without having the sort-of full breath of the story and make their decision. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the motion to adopt Conference Report for Senate Bill 648. All in favor vote Aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will have the machine record the vote. 81 having voted affirmative and 30 in the negative. The House has adopted the Conference Report for Senate Bill 648, the Senate will be so notified. Ladies and gentlemen, upon motion from the gentleman from Harnett County Representative Lewis, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the galleries to Brenda Paige and Chandra Reed, seated to my right form Harnett County. Welcome. Representative Brandon, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGED] I’d like to switch my vote from no to yes on the last bill please. [SPEAKER CHANGED] The gentleman will be recorded as having voting Aye. Representative Pittman the chair promised to come back to you on your point of personal privilege, the gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I’m very pleased to announce that at 12:43 PM today this afternoon that Sofia Kimberly Pittman was born, weighing 7lbs. and 11oz., she is the daughter of my beautiful daughter-in-law Camile and my son Lt. Samuel Pittman. I hope, as much as I love my boy, I hope she looks like her momma. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Ladies and gentlemen, we will not be taking up any other measures today, but we do have a special moment. Before I get to that, Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGED] The lady is recognized for a point a personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Thank you Mr. Speaker and members of the House. I just received an email from the Program Evaluation Division indicating that they have just received the national award for being the only Program Evaluation Division in the nation, the North Carolina Program Evaluation Division clearly demonstrated its value and positive impact to the state between 2010 and 2013. The Division’s recommendation led directly to increases in state revenue, operational and programmatic changes to several areas of state government. Mr. Speaker I would hope that each of us would reach out to those people that work on the first floor in the other building and send our best congratulations. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Ladies and gentlemen the conferees for Senate Bill 853 Business Court Modernization will be Leo Daughtery chair, Representative Tim Moore, Brian Stevens and Reeves. The Senate will be so notified. Ladies and gentlemen. Representative Lewis please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGED] It was for point of personal privilege, but I can wait until you finish. [SPEAKER CHANGED] Ladies and gentlemen, as always with the case when the budget is going on there are late hours. Those late hours on Monday morning were about 4AM and about 3AM is was in a meeting with some of the members, Senator Berger, we were doing what you do when you’re trying to negotiate the budget, asking all kinds of questions. There was one person in the room who everybody knows and respects a great deal, who was there with us consulting on constitutional questions. As all of us, he was worn out and one point he even laid his head on the desk briefly, I think to take a quick cat nap In between

him questions and then undefined homily at a very, very important, very complex question something I certainly couldn't understand suddenly Jerry: comes the life span answers the question then refers back to something he remembers vividly back in nineteen eighty two and and they were. for a little bit and then came back… I think most of you know that Jerry's days are are coming to an end in the legislature. he's going to be retiring and there are a number of people are gotten to know in this building and are a number of people that I have a great deal of respect for, but I have to say in my seven and a half years here, somebody that you can always rely on. I don't think it is probably not anyone in this chamber. any body who's served in this chamber who in a call, I'm Jerry for a position would ever question the integrity, the validity and the, the importance of his advice and I think the best chamber, and this day has benefited greatly from his service, and I guess I'm not the only one who's going to speak on it, but I do want to extend on behalf of all members got past and present the deep gratitude that we have for Jerry: service to this great institution. thank you Jerry him to Change speaker: and to his purpose. gentleman will represent a Change speaker: Michelle please enter purpose for personal reasons,management has for a point of personal privilege is not Change speaker: the only one member, yet it knew Jerry when you got here and now back in matter was. I got you the movement before Jerry got the and I know him all through the years have been a very forthright individual in our argument about constitutional requirement nine in I thought he was an expert on outlawry. I'm not even an expert and I will see in action. remember back, Jerry, one of the significant things wash down your journal cerebral townhouse in Chapel Hill now may have a problem with to SRH are we understand are about nineteen eighty seven. I think it was very efficient where they call me in a long recent recognition of we don't have enough black charges in state Superior Court judges at that time they create to special judges were appointed, but had ever been elected. he said I want you and charity co-op that if they got away." that judges in classic mode, youthink you're a decent Jerry knows what he's doing, so I saw Jerry out. we sat around in two years after we went to work on that. there were twelve black elected Superior Court judges in the state and all that credit medical literature because he knew how to do it when it do it what to do with Jerry having on behalf of many of us in the state want to thank you for what you have done for the state and services. if you've implemented in question that you have brought him. she is not his father really is and because of the longevity and doing what you have always done and then Change speaker: I can him and representatives go. Change speaker: please enter purpose appointed personal privilege lady magnet for point of personal privilege is here and in various I you calling about nineteen seventy after my husband and I moved to Chapel Hill in nineteen sixty five, and if we were both active in the Orange County Democratic Party on. he was at the time your Vietnam War. a lot of five youth activism ads in that category really well. he had holes in the knees of his blue jeans. your bushy hair long, bushy hair and it was just as brilliant and because he is now back

He...the Orange County Democratic Party was changing then because the university had expanded and there were a lot of new people coming in and so a lot of new blood and so Jerry knew a lot more about the goings on of North Carolina and politics than we did and so he was advising us about how to turn out the vote. I’m going to tell a story on Jerry, and if this isn’t true, he will come and tell me exactly what happened differently, but I’m going to try the story anyway. He decided that he would go walking door to door in Eno precinct in Orange County. Now that’s one of the most conservative precincts in the county. He did that and when the total results came it, we discovered the biggest turnout of Republicans that county had ever had. Jerry was an undergraduate when I met him. He was a law school student when he ran for town council in 1973. Charlie Dean, I think, was his campaign manager, or worked on his campaign. Charlie Dean was Howard Dean’s brother and we lost him in the Vietnam war, but he was also a wonderful, well known, part of the Chapel Hill mix in those days. Jerry beat Alexander Julian, for his seat on the Town Council and he became...had such a special interest in transit even in those early days, public transportation and transit. He was a key figure in helping Howard Lee establish the Chapel Hill transit, the bus company in Chapel Hill transit. You may know that that’s now a free service. The town and the university in Carboro contribute to that and it transports students and faculty and community members all over the community. One of his...when he joined the North Carolina, he came to interview for the job with the General Assembly, and on the last day the application was open, he wowed the interview team and was given the job. One of his favorite bills that he worked on was establishing light rail in Charlotte, which followed up on his love of transportation. I always refer to him, he knows everything about the General Assembly. I always send people to him for advice and I always go to him first for advice and I think I’m going to continue doing that. I’ve got his phone number and he’s on Twitter and Facebook so we can keep in touch with him. I know that he’s not going...he’s been a politician and an activist since I’ve known him and I’m sure that he will continue to be a part of our lives in the future. Thanks a lot Jerry. I still have your campaign button from 1973. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, if you have any of those pictures of Jerry during his activist days, please post them on Twitter. Representative Dollar, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, Mr. Speaker, if you’re around town as I have been in politics for a number of years, even before I got to the General Assembly. You heard about Cohen. You heard this name, this sort of legend. As a Republican coming in ten years ago, I wasn’t quite sure what to make of Jerry. Here was somebody as has been mentioned, was elected councilor in Chapel Hill and for most Republicans, it’s sort of a verboten thing and what to make of this guy. But then I found out something I didn’t know. I didn’t know he was a Hurricanes fan. You can’t be all bad if you’re a Hurricanes fan and he’s a very strong Hurricanes fan. And then you find out more about him, you find out about the man himself. It was interesting for me, I remember several occasions, but one in particular, I had a bill that was important to me, probably had no chance of passing. Jerry, I’m sure, knew it had no chance of passing, but in working with him on that bill, he treated it just as if it was the most important…

[??] Bill that would come before the General Assembly working through questions, asking me probing things, helping me think through a lot of stuff, relying on his, as already has been mentioned, his tremendous command of history. I know Representative Stam knows history in the 1600’s or 1700’s, well Jerry knows history of about every legislative bill that has ever been in the General Assembly. I mean, you ask him some area and he’d say well in 82’ they tried this and in 94’ they did that. It’s a knowledge base that will never be replaced in this body and will sorely be missed. Jerry, you moved through the stages, first you established yourself years ago as being knowledgeable, then you became an expert, then you became the go to person, then you became a wise man, then you became a sage and then I think you established oracle status. So certainly, I think on behalf of all the members [??] that has been said, your knowledge, your wisdom and your caring concern for this institution will be sorely missed and thank you so much. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Torbett, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I also would like to request the attendance of staff in case there may be any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will allow staff on the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jordan, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Torbett yield an inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Torbett does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield Mr. Chairman. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Torbett my inquiry is, does Representative Jerry have any comments on these particular issues here? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker I feel I must yield to the staff for this question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] With out objection. The 121st member has the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Torbett, Mr. Jordan, Mr. Majority Leader, thank you so much for honoring me today. It’s real pleasure to have a chance to finally make a speech in the house after 37 years. I've bitten through several tongues during that time. I really appreciate it, it’s really been a honor and a pleasure to work with people, learning the institution, I've always been interested in the legislative process, even when I ran through a 6 year period of being an elected official, gave me training when to know, when to shut up and learned from your mistakes, learn when to speak and not speak. I've tried to of been a resource for everyone and I really appreciate the very kind words from everyone and the chance to be with you. I recently dug out, Mickey was making a reference to that, a letter I wrote to Mickey and the 73’ Session in his first chamber complaining about some bill I think he sponsored and he sent me back a very nice full page letter that said nothing. I have deep respect for Mr. Michaux and the other 119 members who really enjoyed working with. Today is my last day and that doesn’t mean I’ll never be around here again but I plan to take some time off and travel and do nothing. I told me wife do not wake me tomorrow, I’m not sure how long that will last. Thank you very much. Have I answered your question Mr. Jordan? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, since I’m pretty sure that violated some rule, I would also like the houses indulgence as you remember the rules have changed and only members may serve in chair as Speaker, we can suspend the rules to allow Jerry to adjourn today. It seems only fitting that

Early activists would come up here in violation of the rules to chair, so unless there's someone who would object to that and require us to vote to suspend the rules, Representative Hollo. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker, let the record show mister Gerry Cohen's service to the institution as a requisite before he would achieve such honor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Then the chair assumes that there will be no objection and, and, and Gerry will be doing the adjournment today. Representative Daughtry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Moment of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm not sure it violates the rules. When I first got up here I was in the Senate and I had been here about a week, and there was a bill regarding the redistricting of the county commission in my county. I went to Senator Henson Barnes and said I don't know a lot about this. He said well go see Senator Cohen. And I looked in the book for about two hours trying to find Senator Cohen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Larry Hall, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a brief announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Democratic caucus will meet 1425 immediately after session. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Notices and announcements. Seeing none, Representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker, I move that subject to the ratification of bills, messages from the Senate, committee reports, conference reports, rereferral of bills and resolutions, appointment of conferees, introductions of bills and resolutions, and modifications to the calendar that the House do now adjourn to reconvene on Friday, August 1st 2014 at 10 AM. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? that Representative Michaux seconds. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You get to say it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Second. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Tim Moore moves seconded by Michaux that the House adjourn subject to ratification of bills, message from the Senate, committee reports, conference reports, rereferral of bills and resolutions, appointment of conferees, introduction of bills and resolutions, and modifications to the calendar to reconvene Friday, August first at ten o'clock AM. Those in favor will say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Those opposed no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes, the ayes appear to have it. The ayes do have it and the House stands adjourned in accordance with the previous order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ratification of bills and resolutions, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Enrolling clerk reports the following bill to be read ?? to the Governor, House bill 884 an act to apply for the dropout prevention, Recovery Pilot program. The following bill to be read ?? presented to the office of the secretary of the state, Senate bill 859 an act relating to judicial regulation, vacation rentals and other transient occupancies. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Oh very good.