The Sergeant-At-Arms will close the doors. Members and visitors in the gallery, please stand and please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures. He leadeth me besides the still waters. He restores my soul. He leadeth me in the path of righteousness for his namesake. And yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil for thou art with me. Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies, thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever. Now let me say a short prayer. Thank you for every person that’s in this room tonight that’s here because you said so. Thank you for helping us go the right way and do the right things. What we believe in our hearts are the right things to do. To lead our state, our nation, our communities forward. We’re grateful for everything you’ve done for us and things that you do that we don’t know about. In Jesus name, I pray. Amen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal for May 2nd, 2013 had been examined and found to be correct. I move that it is approved as written. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves that the journal for May 2nd be approved as written. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The journal is approved as written. Petitions, memorials, or papers addressed to the General Assembly of the House. Ratification of bills and resolutions. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Enrolling clerk reports the following bill duly ratified for the presentation of the Governor. Senate Bill 83. An Act to Encourage Volunteer Health Care in Free Clinics by Limiting the Liability of Medical and Health Care Providers If the Free Clinic Posts a Notice of Limited Liability. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chapter bills be noted. Ladies and gentlemen, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the floor and a thank you to the Nurse of the Day. The Nurse of the Day is Karen Schnell from Mevin. Karen, thank you. Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To make a motion regarding tonight’s calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I move House Bill 649, Small Group Health Insurance Technical Changed be referred to Judiciary C Committee. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. Reports of standing committees and permanent subcommittees. Representative McElraft and West, you are recognized to send forth committee report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative McElraft and West of the Environment Committee, House Bill 505, Extend DSWC Animal Waste Inspections, favorable, committee substitute unfavorable as to the original bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 755, DENR Electronic Notice, favorable as to the committee substitute, unfavorable as to the original bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak clear on House Bill 505, committee substitute bill, calendar, original bill unfavorable, calendar. On 755, committee substitute bill, original bill, unfavorable, calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 471, favorable as to the committee substitute, unfavorable as to the original bill and serially referred to Government. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The committee substitute is re-referred to the Committee on Government. Original bill, unfavorable, calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 480, Environmental Permitting Reform. Favorable as to the committee substitute, unfavorable as to original bill and serially referred to Regulatory Reform. [SPEAKER CHANGES] committee substitute bill will be re-referred to the Committee on Regulatory Reform. Original bill, unfavorable, calendar. Representative Samuelson is recognized to send forth a committee report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Samuelson for the Banking Committee. House Bill 692, Amend Predatory Lending Law. Favorable as to the committee substitute, unfavorable as to the original bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute bill, calendar. Original bill, unfavorable, calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill...
[Speaker Changes] 784 worthless check, present cash checks, favorable committee sub, unfavorable is the original bill. [Speaker Changes] Committee Substitute Bill Calendar, Original bill unfavorable calendar. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 616, transitional mortgage loan originator, favorable is the committee substitute, unfavorable is to the original bill, and serially referred to finance. [Speaker Changes] Committee substitute bill will be re-referred to the committee on finance and original bill unfavorable. calendar. [Speaker Changes] Representative Stone and Warren are recognized to send forth the Committee Report. The clerk will read. [Speaker Changes] Representatives Stone and Warren for the government comiteee house bill 687 homeless shelters remove age limits. Favorable is the committee substitute. Unfavorable is the original bill. [Speaker Changes] Committee Substitute bill calendar. Original bill unfavorable. Calendar. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 300, cities public trusts rights. Favorable is the committee substitute. Unfavaorable is the orginal bill, serially referred to Judiciary Subcommittee C. [Speaker Changes] The Committee Substitute bill is re-referred to Judiciary Subcommittee C. Original Bill unfavorable calendar. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 553, amend ?? County occupancy tax. Favorable is the Committee Substitute. Unfavorable is to the original bill. Serially referred to finance. [Speaker Changes] The Committee Substitute will be re-referred to the Committee on Finance. Original bill unfavorable calendar. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 562, Cramerton Charter revisal. Favorable is the Committee Substitute. Unfavorable is to the original bill. And serially refferred to finance. [Speaker Changes] The Commitee Substitute will be re-refferred to the Committee on Finance. Original bill unfavorable calendar. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 551, amend Wilmington firefighters relief fund. Favorable is the Committee Substitute. Unfavorable is to the original bill. And serially refferred to state Personnel. [Speaker Changes] The Commitee Substitute Bill will be re-refferred to the Committee on State Personnel. Original bill unfavorable calendar. Representative Jordan & McGrady are recognized to send forth the Committee Report. The clerk will read. [Speaker Changes] Representative Jordan and McGrady for the Judiciary Subcommittee B. House Bill 611, suspend removal when eligibility met. Favorable. [Speaker Changes] Calendar. [Speaker Changes] Representative William Brawley are recognized to send forth the Committee Report. The clerk will read. [Speaker Changes] Representative William Brawley House Bill 677, local government regulatory form. Following the bills signed to regulatory form committee. [Speaker Changes] Noted. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 774, building code exclusion primitive structures. Refer to regulatory reform committee. [Speaker Changes] Noted. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, without objection Rule 12D is suspended. Is there objection? So ordered. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, upon motion of Representative Susan Martin and Representative Farmer Butterfield from Wilson County, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Jefferson Curry, Susan Kellem, Sandra Holmes, Nancy Trivillian,and Martha Walston. Please stand and let us greet you. Representative Hager, please state your purpose. [Speaker Changes] Motion for referral. [Speaker Changes] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [Speaker Changes] Mr. Speaker, I move that House Bill 476 be referred to finance. [Speaker Changes] Without objection. [Speaker Changes] Speaker. [Speaker Changes] Representative Luebke, please state your purpose. [Speaker Changes] I'm sorry, I don't know from memory House Bill 476. [Speaker Changes] House Bill 476 short title is rewrite underground damage prevention act. [Speaker Changes] Thank you sir. [Speaker Changes] WIthout objection, so ordered. Messages from the Senate, the clerk will read. [Speaker Changes] Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 129, a bill to be entitled to enact to prohibit issuance of debt.
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thirty five for tomorrow 's the Gemini house bill thirty seven thousand and thirty five at nine thirty five on the far first help as guides, a without objection, so ordered [SPEAKER CHANGES] down her house so I started article rated committee substitute House Bill eight thirty bill entitled an act to adopt an official state fossil all salamander marsupial over an art medium president of Avila, PlayStation purpose to debate the bill they have to go in order to let his recognize the right of the act, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mrs. Baker remembers how many of you in here can remember your first session in the General assembly, one of the bill of this type came out I couldn't get back and see what it was my first day that passed for a designation of a proud institution in North Carolina was to adopt the aged colored festival at the official collard Festival of the state of North Carolina that I know there a lot of people that look at this type of presentation on the floor in the debate that we do and see it. maybe sometimes it's a little bit of silliness, but maybe we need a little bit of silliness sometimes down here that it's not actually that silly when you think about how important it is for those people and eight at the part of their community and it means a lot to them, and they want us to know about it and went over the years, recognized a lot of festivals.we dueled with the barbecue one five. the state. the other side of the state. I'm not sure him him him him when you lots of other celebrations in designations. we have our seal. we have our flag. we have our bird. we have our tree we have are plotting on and tonight I am very proud to help add to the list of symbols for the state of North Carolina to amphibians. I'm eyeing they are in fraud in micrometer pronounced that let me be the one of them, and the salamander why you would ask that I decide to do that. it was simply because I was visited by young lady who is probably as passionate as any PhD researcher anywhere on eighty campus could be about the future of our test system and how amphibians play the role that they do their actual Hopkins has already had the wrong date declared in the state and she felt like that it would help if you and I could understand how important these amphibians are the health of our ecosystem, those of you who were in committee in rules when she presented. I'm pretty sure were as impressed as I was the first, matter, but the passion and the desire to make a difference that she she didn't and intent upon doing now just ask that we recognize her for her care. her concern and that we recognize and she would support our designation of the amphibian samples for the state of North Carolina [SPEAKER CHANGES] representor Macau purpose to speak on all go away for a concentrate ago I didn't resolution out. [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you, Mister Speaker, I have received a call from Nikki Zürich, Newport metals will him tell me that his class was interested, and a outputting a bill through, or the states of fossil and I'd fear me a little bit because I just got home I managed your information and then I was afraid if I were talking about me and saddle him. I was really happy to have know that it actually was the young to not be on and see how do you pronounce it done now and mandala necklace on. thank you, Representative Eyler start a fossilized teeth and was not this old representative here that they were talking about what was really neat. was this class was going through the procedure of how to put a guilt through the General assembly, and we sent them from our wonderful General assembly here with the help of our staff on the procedure of how to actually put a bill through and they went through that whole procedure
Representative : …And they have followed this through. I was honored to tell them that it was going to be on a bill, an omnibus bill, rather than their own particular bill. They have followed it through knowing that other students are also involved in this. So, I do ask for your support in this and I am honored to know that our students are very interested in knowing what is going on here in the general assembly. I hope that you will support this bill. Speaker: Representative Algore, please state your purpose. Representative: to speak to the ibll. Speaker: The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Representative: The part of the bill that I would like to address is the designation of clay as the official arcmedium in NC. Our clay and potting history is quite rich in this state, starting with the native Americans who created their pieces by hand and then pit fired them, to the settlers coming and looking for the banes of clay in the areas around Seagrove, Cataba Valley and areas around Sanford and Asheville. Even the moravions in Winston – you can see a beautiful exhibit across the street at the history museum of the work they put forth. I even brought a little piece from my areas – this was created in the 1920’s. These utilitarian pieces were essential to the agricultural economy we had, here in this state, but from there it has evolved to beautiful art pieces, created by artists throughout the state now, like Walter Fleming here from Statesville. The potting history has made our state really recognized across the state for all the potters. We have more potters per capita in this state than any other. So, I commend the bill to you, declaring clay as the official art medium. Speaker: Representative Martin, please state your purpose. Representative: To debate the bill. Speaker: The lady is recognized to debate the bill. Representative: Thank you. I am honored to stand before you and recognized the famous [xx] Gates and Bala Simpson, who is in his 90’s. There is a handout on your desk for those of you that are not familiar with our now world famous wirly gigs. You may have seen this on a small scale, but I invite you to come to Wilson where you can see them on a large scale – they are the size of street lamps. Representative Jean Butterfield, who I think is not here tonight, and I would love to host you and give you a tour where we are renovating this incredible art. We are getting ready to open up a new wirly gig park – it is part of our downtown revitalization project, and we have some representatives today. So I am excited to share with you this unique folk art and I commend the bill to you and thank you for your support. Representative: Be glad to answer any questions anyone may have about this assessment bill. I appreciate your support. Speaker: Further discussion or debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute of house bill 830, on its second reading. All in favor will vote aye, all opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote: 115 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The house committee substitute to house bill 830 has passed its second reading and will, without objection, be read a third time. Clerk: NC general assembly enacts. Speaker: Further discussion or debate? Representative Martin, please state your purpose. Further discussion or debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute of house bill 830, on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [aye] All opposed say no. [silence] The house committee substitute to house bill 830 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. Ladies and gentleman of the house, upon motion of Representative Abelow, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Rachel Hopkins and Rachel’s mother, Pam Hopkins. Please stand and let us welcome you. [clapping]
I'll throw in sixty six, the court already resolution eight sixty six. house resolution supporting LAN is on a disorder known as preterm premature rupture of membranes. however, resolved that [SPEAKER CHANGES] Martin please take a purpose that restoration and it's entirety. place the article rate, [SPEAKER CHANGES] whereas a little-known condition and in five discrete charm of premature rupture of membranes on paper, affects fewer than three percent of pregnant women and whereas people have occurs when the membrane sac, which holds the baby in the embryonic fluid breaks before the onset of labor, and prior to thirty seven weeks of destination, whereas the chances for survival. when people occurs or greater for babies born closer to majority and whereas once membrane ruptures a woman typically delivers her baby within one week. and whereas a problem often occurs in pregnancy is with no known risk factors with no apparent cause, often leads to the death of the newborn and whereas, in cases where women are being treated for peopleon parents may have to make difficult decisions of whether to have the mother take medication to postpone delivery of the baby deliver the baby prematurely resulting in possible risks to the baby orin some cases terminate the pregnancy. and whereas a baby 's life is precious and parents observed to have accurate information when faced with these difficult decisions regarding their babies and whereas many parents in North Carolina have been affected by the problem, including the Caroline and Stephen Coles of Wilson, who lost their son Connor in two thousand and twelve, and whereas it is inborn him, Jones, agencies and organizations joined together and promoting awareness of people and working to prevent and diagnose a condition through increased research andto help decrease occurrences and save lives. and whereas in two thousand and twelve, Governor Beverly Perdue issued a proclamation recognizes June the first, second as pretrial awareness eight now therefore be it resolved by the House of Representatives of house reps in section one. the house reps. it is extensive, simply due to parents who have lost newborns as result of premature work rupture of membranes and problem that outstrips its further joins those affected by people in observing two one two two thousand thirteen is the problem awareness Day section to this resolution, it is a active upon adoption [SPEAKER CHANGES] ladies recognized great resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you, Mister Speaker, thank you members of the house. I'm honored today to bring forward this resolution at the request of some transfer my delegation and some who are here tonight is started the car owner Wayne homes foundation in response to this tragedy and Connor was born and went ahead than a year ago on Friday and we want to join with former Governor Purdue in recognizing it, awareness, and as I served up here, you realize that there's a lot that we can do and we hopefully are making a difference, but there's so much need out there and so many things that we as government cannot do, and it's personally, it takes people who have passion around a particular issues to step up and make a difference in people 's lives. and with that I am honored to help this group brings over their foundation where they bring a message of hope to if you are experiencing. I have an awareness and helping them financially to have the option to make the choice to not terminate the pregnancy. if there is opportunity to choose life and to bring them with resources, and does all kinds of support and hope so. I commend the resolution to you and I thank you for your help in bringing awareness about back to your district and the [SPEAKER CHANGES] discussion further further debate , if not quite as before that houses the adoption of House resolution eight sixty six. all in favor of it all" note" about All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote all members wishing to record, please do so this time, but watching recorded about one hundred and sixteen, having that affirmative, not a negative House resolution eight sixty six has been adopted on the order printed placing some of the house. upon motion, a representative said
Mark Farmer Butterfield from Wilson County teachers attitudes in the courtesies of the gallery to Bobby Poole, Jamie Massengill, Eddie Propst shalt what an Michelle glass of the CWC foundation forpay promptly. Stan was welcome and thank you for the work you're doing him a [SPEAKER CHANGES] house bill eighteen a bill entitled an act authorizing the county or both uncanny and it is thousands located therein to establish a culture, [SPEAKER CHANGES] recreation authority Johnson of North Carolina next exhibit, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ramsey, please take your purpose. this is vigorously go to the gym is right now is the right bill of Mister Speaker, members of the house of appreciate your support on second reading, but it was unanimous vote last and commend this bill to hear it's good for biogenic affirmed municipalities and asked that you support this bill is a discussion further diagrams integrated voice that your purpose, you asked the bill sponsor question present Ranjit as a general menu items, genitals, there's been a lot of discussion in the chamber about the how are legislations been affecting the city of Nashville, I believe this legislation affects the city of Asheville, could you tell me what is the financial impact of this legislation on the City National, of course, represented by the members of the past way that the said as to the board of commissioners and city of battle, but it as things stand now, it would be between the five and seven and a half million dollar annual impact of the positive were city of Asheville taxpayers. the benefit for him us about it certainly would be less depending the most ounce juice to produce, but it's become available. [SPEAKER CHANGES] John is recognized bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] about the speaker and colleagues are under no support this bill on as it did lose from here to the Senate. we got feed up pretty badly on another bill about the new financial impacts and continues to play out in the media, but at the same time, there may be those that are not so good for one city or any other. here's one that comes back the otherway. in fact, it comes back potentially twofold. on the time might've voted against this bill, though, is that we've it's been pretty clear that the bill. we previously passed is going to be litigated and it would be very ironic if we end up litigating one bill and then, in fact, giving them a lot more money whether to fund their litigation or something else, but I will trust my colleagues from Buncombe County on this one, at least for a while and vote for a bill that is otherwise good policy that a Fisher police enter purpose pleasuring Azevedo, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker into the house and Isabel that has to allow coming up last biennium. I is a similar bill on wild bee Canyon city were in the beginning of talk about the idea of having a Parks and Recreation authority where the city and the county would work together and mutually to come up with a way to run our parks and on cultural resources in the city of Asheville and Buncombe County. I'm glad to see this bill is moving forward I think it's great that the city and County of time together around this issue and talk about for sometime and I appreciate the support of the body for this legislation, and that they have banked at the yesterday and County of four coming together on that. so I'm thank you for your support is emigrated was major purpose of the discussion thread. it I did not question what houses the passage of the house committee substitute them are due to hospital foraging on its third reading off a remote on all those that know you are going to the park watching recorded about one hundred and twelve editor. the furniture in a negative house, the substitute member to browse before eighteen has as its third reading will be sent to the Senate out the one eighty six of our great
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those submissions, college, you national graduated from Western Piedmont College in Morganton and completed the North Carolina's state administrative offices program in Raleigh and whereas,upon graduation from college. a Jones in the military served in the eighty second Airborne Division of United States Army, whereas after leaving the Army and Joan served as a deputy for the bottom County Sheriff 's Department prior to training at the North Carolina Justice Academy and whereas it. Jones became a Highway Patrol officer in nineteen seventy five, receiving a promotion to sergean tin nineteen eighty five, and to first Sergeant in nineteen ninety five, and whereas in Jones was recognized as officer of the year for Herbert and Bertie Bertie County and whereas, upon his retirement from the state Highway Patrol. in two thousand and Jones served as the chief of police for the town of Enfield, and then the town 's mayor and whereas in two thousand and five, and Jones was appointed to fill an unexpired term in the House of Representatives, representing the citizens of Halifax, smashed counties. the one turn and whereas in two thousand and seven in Jones was appointed to the Senate to fill an unexpired term and went on to be elected to three additional firms representing the citizens of the county 's opportunity show on Gates Halifax Herford, Northampton and requirements and whereas, as the only retired state trooper ever elected to the state Senate and Jones took a special interest in the area of crime control and public safety. and whereas duringhis tenure in the General assembly, and Joan served with honor and distinction as co chair of the state and local gun you are here racist subcommittee on guesses about safety by care of judiciary to committee criminal and is a member of the following committees appropriations subcommittee on that one economic resources, education, public instruction, healthcare joint select committee on emergency preparedness and disaster management, recovery, the recovery joint select committee on tornado damage response middle health and youth services redistributing rules and operations of the Senate and select committee on government and election reform. and whereas, and Jones was the first African-American to serve as trustee of Chowan University in Murfreesboro, North Carolina, and where is it, Jones served as president of the Halifax County law-enforcement Association vice president of the Halifax County intergovernmental Association and is a member of the Governor 's crime commission, whereas a Jones is also a member of the Board of Directors of the Halifax Boys and Girls Club and a member of the national conference of Black mayors North Carolina black mayors Association, the national legislative office, the North Carolina legislative Black Caucus and whereas, and Jones is recognized as an honorary prime 3G Bobby Herrin,indignation, and also received numerous other state wide and local awards, honors, and where is Ed Jones was a loyal and devoted member of his church St. Paul at his church in Israel, NorthCarolina, where he served as trustee, whereas in Jones, the man who was committed to helping others and truly live by his motto. it is not about the titles we possess. it's about the job we do him.Jones died December fourteen two thousand twelve after a lifetime of public service way. Isaiah Jones is survived by his wife, Marianne Holden Jones two daughters Alisha Jones and Gary Don Zelland Andrea Long the new year and three granddaughters are along the grief and Carmen Gary now therefore be it resolved by the Senate section one. the generals in the honors alive in memory of Edward and Walter Jones and expresses its appreciation for the service he rendered to his community, the state of North Carolina and the nation section to the General assembly extends its deepest sympathy to the family of Edward and Walter Jones, although also beloved husband, father and grandfather section three. the secretaries
00:00 a certified copy of this resolution to the family of Edward Ed Walter Jones section four this resolution is effective upon gratification. representative Wray please state your purpose. to speak on the resolution. gentleman's recognized to debate the resolution. thank you Mr speaker and members of the house ladies and gentlemen I'm just a simple guy from Northampton county you barely ever see me get up on the house floor and speak that's how I operate people'd run their mouths all the time that's fine I'm just a simple guy just like Ed Jones I never wear a bow-tie I've worn a bow-tie three times in my life I wore it last year in honor of my friend when he was here I wore one the second time the day they buried my friend and I wore one today Christmas time my wife I have twin boys will be 16 this week Christmas time I got two presents from my family from my wife and my two boys one of them was a picture of Ed Jones and this bow-tie that was very special and very dear to me we have a lot of freshmen members that are here lot of democrats more republicans than democrats but let me tell you you heard the resolution Ed Jones was a simple man that came from the Ashford community when he was a African american and he'd come a long way Ed was very dear to me in your life in your lifetime you meet friends throughout your whole life you can always count them on one hand the ones that you can really call through thick and thin in the day that my friend [??] to God was one day that I lost one of my good friends throughout the general assembly we all here just a passing just making a difference Ed Jones never saw skin color he never saw age we were in a group of people and some children to decide he would go to the children instead of speaking to the voters that's just the kind of gentleman Ed was I came in 2005 Ed came in 2005 John Hall passed away John Hall sat in seat 60 right here and Ed came as on April 6 is my birthday and I had a fundraiser back in [??] and Ed went back as a house member from [??] county and his first vote was on the North Carolina lottery and that was a special day for him because he was one of the deciding votes here in the state house and so Ed and I started becoming friends and we would talk and we would talk on the road and next thing you know as years go by Ed senator [??] was re-elected Ed was re-elected in the house and senator [??] passed away it was unique in North Carolina we had a state senator and a state house member pass within a week or two of each other and so I'd involved in politics and Ed said well I want you to be the senator I said Ed I don't wanna be a senator I said I want you to be a senator and Ed said well I want you to be the senator and so congressman Butterfield called from Washimgton and said look I'mma fly down to [??] airport to meet you and senator Jones I said you know you stay in Washington we got this under control and so Ed and I talked and I said look Ed I'm a young man I got my life ahead of me I said you know you [??] older than I am but he always joked about that but Ed was truly as fitting for him to be a senator to represent the people of the district that he represented Ed was a highway patrolman and he represented that part of the state and so Ed [??] a lot of the people so it was just a better fit for him but I represented Northampton [??] county and a lot of times Ed would be down further down east and I would be [??] county and we call each other on the phone where're you at I'm [??] so where you at but we had great memories and we had a lot of good times we talked about our family and that's one thing as a young man Ed bestowed upon me about how important your family is politics is a great thing you help a lot of people that can't help themselves but family is one of the most important things I've always known that I've got two special boys just like everybody else [??] children and grandchildren no matter what but Ed was so look you need to get home to your family you know don't worry about that you know I said Ed I need to go there he said no.. 05:00
One day he called me and said, where you at? He said, where you at? You supposed to be at church, they got you on the program. All I can tell you man is I’m up at the baseball field. He says, well I got your back. That’s one thing I can truly say about politics. Republican, Democrat, Independent, it doesn’t matter. One thing I can truly say about one of my best friends in my life, is like a firefighter, it’s like a marriage. You never leave your partner. I touched my left, Ed was there. I touched my right, Ed was there. I backed up Ed Jones was there. I never left Ed Jones. Ed Jones never left me. I told him, I said, you’ll always be my wing man and vice versa. We were on the governor’s crime commission. I won’t get too elaborate about this. We were on the governor’s crime commission and we were going down to start a path one night. Ed, we were driving, and I said, Ed I’m getting kind of hungry. Well, let’s try to get to Wilmington. We got to Wilmington about 11 o’clock or a little bit after. Ed said, where you want to eat at? I said Ed it’s 11 o’clock there only so many places open. I said I know one place though. He said, where’s that? I said Hooters. He said, what is hooters? I said well let’s got to Hooters and eat. We went to Hooters and they do have good cheeseburgers and good wings. Then we went to another meeting to Atlanta. Ed had never been to Hooters before. We went to Atlanta to a meeting. Ed went the day before I did. Ed called me and he said are you still coming to the meeting? I said yeah. Why? He said when you coming? I said tomorrow. He said you aint' even gonna believe this. Right across from the hotel is a Hooters. I’m going to wait until you get here. I don’t want to elaborate a whole lot. I want you to know that God has, when Ed Jones told me, this was in April last year. When Ed Jones called me on the phone and told me he had pancreatic cancer, I have experienced a lot of things in my life. I can tell you some major things. I was a young man. I pulled up on an accident. A car just caught fire. Next thing you know, another car was on fire within seconds. I couldn’t save those three people. Fires were blowing. People were hollering, screaming. And, I watched three people perish to death. There was nothing I could do. That was one moment in my life. But then, I had twin boys, and I had one have heart surgery and has gone through a lot of heart surgeries. He’s been on life support two times. He has to have heart surgery again this upcoming June. When Ed Jones told me he had that dreadful thing, on a Monday. I was in church on Wednesday night and I was on church on Sunday. I was in church on Sunday night. I tell you, that’s how much I truly loved Ed Jones. And, his family knows that I love them and I will always be there for you. Ed will always be there for you. Ed’s father left him at an early age. That’s part of life. Ed told me in some of the last days of his life. He said, look I don’t want to leave my daughters. My wife and my daughters, and my grandchildren. I said, well Ed, God’s ready for you. You can go on home when you’re ready. I went to Chapel Hill to see him. I went there one Sunday. I called up Maryanne and she said you need to come here if you want to come on up here if you want to see him. I went up there to see him. Then I went back the next weekend. And, the next weekend I went to see him. The first thing he told me was, you need to go home to your family. That’s what he always thought about. Others and thought about him. Think about your family. You all need to think about this. You up and down this row trying to make a difference in North Carolina. But, your family will always love you. No matter what. I’ll start winding down. Ed also when he gave his closing statements in the Senate. Which he knew his time was getting close. He had some young children ask him why were all the African Americans and why were all the democrats sitting on the back row. He told them that’s how politics was. This with you also. Whether you’re republican or democrat we’re all North Carolinian. The slogan that we have in our community: is working together works….
...and that's the only thing we can do to move North Carolina forward. So I'll leave this with you. I'll see my friend again. And the day I spoke at his funeral was really, really tough. But again, in my lifetime, I hope I can continue to be like Ed Jones and tough the people of North Carolina, because that's what life's about, making it the best place to be. His legacy was, it's time about the time we pass; it's about the job we do. I commend the resolution to you. The Speaker Pro Tempore: Representative Earl, please state your purpose. Rep. Earle: To speak on the resolution. The Speaker Pro Tempore: The lady's recognized to speak on the resolution. Rep. Earle: Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members, I want to talk to you about my friend. When Ed came to the legislature, Representative Palmer and I kind of took him under our wing, if that was possible. You know, back during that time, you could go out to dinner and not be criminalized for it, but we could go out to dinner, and very often I had opportunities to put together a group to go out to dinner. So we would always include Ed. And you know when you would go out, there would only be a small group, so you don't spread the word around to everybody that we're going out to dinner, because everybody wasn't invited -- five or six or seven people would be invited, so you don't spread the word around, you just go. Well, somehow or other, Ed didn't understand the protocol. And he would tell everybody, ask somebody, you all going to dinner? You going with so-and-so tonight? And so many times I had to pop his hand or give him that look that you know, you should not do this and I used to ask him, Ed, are you a slow learner, or is this just an Enfield thing? You know, from the Enfield. And he just never quite got it. I know one time we went to NCSL in Washington state. So a group of us were invited to go across the water to the island, and then another group was invited to go out to dinner later on after we got back. So of course, everybody that went on the cruise did not get invited, because I was putting together the dinner for that night. Well, we ended up with about four or five different people on the dinner that night. The restaurant was packed, overflowing because we brought five too many people along with us, because of Ed. And like I say, he never quite caught on to that process. And I miss him so very much. I really missed him when he left going to the Senate, but I thought it was a good move, and I told him right away that this is what you should do. Ed was a kind man, he was considerate, he was just a good person. And he would always come to the races in Charlotte, the Memorial Day race, and even up until the last, I think Mary Ann said he drove all the way from Enfield to Charlotte for the race. And oftentimes, when we would go to the conferences, in the very beginning, Mary Ann didn't go, so [??] and I were kind of responsible for him. So then, later on, Mary Ann started going, and we would always ask him and try to make sure that he knew everything that was going on. And he really loved his wife and his daughters, and he talked about them quite often. Also, I just want to say, Ed liked sporty collars; he always had a sporty collar. I used to tease him about being in a midlife crisis. He had a Corvette one time and then another sporty, so he always kept a sporty, nice shiny car, and when I heard that he was...
[Speaker Change] You know, really, really getting down low. I called Maryanne to see if, if we could come down and we were planning to go. Planning to be there on the day that he passed. And I really miss him. I really do. I miss him from being in this chamber and missing, missing, seeing his face around, around the campus. And I just regret that many of you did not get the opportunity to meet him because he truly was a good person. I commend the resolution to you. [Speaker Change] Representative Adams, please state your purpose. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. To speak on the resolution. [Speaker Change] The lady is recognized to debate the resolution. [Speaker Change] Ed Jones was clearly a unique gentleman. It was a privilege for me to work with him as he served in the House and in the Senate He was always supportive of the Legislative Black Caucus and the Legislative Black Caucus Foundation. He was always well dressed. Pressed and dapper. Distinguished in his bowtie. And I always commented to him how good he looked in it. He was committed to, to education and to children as you’ve heard. During the last Legislative Black Caucus Foundation’s event in last year, I had talked to him about serving as one of our presenters and I knew that Ed was sick and I didn’t want to put too much on him. But he called and said I’m happy to do it, I’ll be there. He came and he presided and he stayed all day and participated in all of the events. And even on that evening, I remember at the banquet, we, the Foundation Board made a decision that we would dedicate, in his honor at that time, all of the funds, the one hundred plus thousand dollars that we issued to the HBC used in North Carolina in his honor. And he was really moved by that and very grateful. He made his comments to the audience that night, poor folk that didn’t know he was ill and this was probably going to be the last time he said that I’ll see you. But I want you to know that I was so privileged, and I’m so privileged to have been honored by the residents of my district, to have been able to serve them. He was always genuine about his service and very committed to doing very good work. So I was just pleased to have some times to actually talk with him. He was always encouraging. I remember going to Elizabeth City State to meet him there. And I said if you don’t feel, he says I’ll be there and he met me there. And we actually made the check presentation to Elizabeth City. It was in his district. And made a special contribution to a student majoring in criminal justice in his honor. So I’m very pleased to say that I miss him, we truly miss him. But he was always very kind and very genuine, very unique gentleman and we miss him and I commend the resolution to you. [Speaker Change] Representative Lewis, please state your purpose. [Speaker Change] To speak on the resolution. [Speaker Change] The gentleman is recognized to debate the Bill. [Speaker Change] Thank you, thank you Mr. Speaker. I won’t take long and I can’t add much to what’s been said but there’s an old saying that goes, if you’re really good at something you don’t have to tell folks how good you are. And Ed Jones was a good man. He was a man who would always take time to speak with you. To ask you how you were and actually cared what you what you said when you replied back to him. There are people that each of us will serve with and will reflect upon our time with and will have realized that we have benefited from knowing them. And for me Ed Jones is one of those folks. Thank you Mr. Speaker. [Speaker Change] Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [Speaker Change] To speak on the resolution. [Speaker Change] The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [Speaker Change] Much has been said about Ed Jones and all of it has been true. I got to really know Ed pretty good because he would come, I would eat breakfast in the morning. I would come over a little bit early and I’d go down stairs to eat breakfast and he would come by and he would eat breakfast. And we had a little bit of a relationship because when he served on the highway patrol up in the mountains, he said he ran across a couple of my folks up there. And I said, well what did you do with them Ed? He said, I gave them a ticket but.
...he said, I didn’t know you at the time, but I guess it wouldn’t have changed my mind. He said, in fact, I might have given him two. But Ed was the type of person that you were just drawn to him because he was sort of a quiet individual and he was always inquisitive. He would ask me a lot of questions, a lot of times I could answer, but sometimes I couldn't. The outstanding thing about Ed Jones was what Ed had to face when he found out that he had pancreatic cancer and that his days were numbered. Not many of us can really take it in stride like Ed took it in stride. We would sit down at the table downstairs. He said, yeah, you know, I’ve had a good life, I’ve had a good family, I love my family. I hate to leave my family, but I know I’ve got to go so in these last few days that I’ve got left, I’m going to do all I can to make up for them. I think that was Ed’s bucket list was his family. That was the only thing on his bucket list was his family. It had amazed me how an individual, when it comes time for us to meet the man upstairs, whether we know it or not, we’ve got to be prepared for it. Ed was prepared for it, but for the life of me, I could not understand how a man who has had...who knows that he’s not going to be here but so long to still be the same type of person he was three days before or even before he know what was happening. I always asked Ed, well, look, you deserted us in the House, you went over to the Senate and I always wondered why you would want to lower yourself to that because...he said, you know Mickey, he said, I’ve been around a whole lot. He said, I was the mayor and all of these jobs that he had, he said, I’m just fulfilling my destiny. He said, if the President’s job becomes available, I’m going to go for that too. Ed was a good guy. One of the best guys. I’m just sorry that most of you did not have the opportunity to know him. As I said before, the thing that stands out to me about Ed is how he could face life the way he did knowing that his days were numbered. If all of us could even reach that point, even if we don’t know when our days are numbered, but we know we have served mankind to the best of our ability, then we can all become at peace with ourselves. I commend the resolution to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Tolson, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members of the body, I...if you didn’t know Ed Jones, and those of you that are new here, you missed a real in treat in knowing a fine gentleman. He was quiet. He was my seatmate. Sitting here beside of him, I got to know a lot about him and what he did and his work. I didn’t know he was a highway patrolman until he was here as my seatmate. We had a lot of conversations about his work in the highway patrol. He thoroughly enjoyed being a representative. He looked forward to going home and talking with his people and working with them and seeing how he could make their lives better. All of the things that you’ve heard here tonight, there’s no need for me to say them again, but he was that kind of an individual. To take the news that he received about his health in the manner in which he did. I’ll never forget the day that I found out. We were sitting in a meeting in Rocky Mountain and a very casual conversation, he told us about his condition. I thought, you know, gee whiz, how in the world can you sit here that calmly and talk about something that’s probably going to take your life? But that was just the demeanor of the man. I just can’t say enough good things about, and I won’t for long, but he was one that loved his people He loved his family, he talked about his family quite a bit. It was a joy to serve with him and when I found out he was going to the Senate, I was...what is there something wrong with me? I’ve had too many seatmates that either left or going to somewhere else. He was that good and he knew he wanted to be in the Senate and he did a good job in the Senate. Excellent Representative...
…excellent Senator, one that I’m very proud to call my friend, I commend the resolution to. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak briefly on the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I too knew Ed Jones quite well. Many of you have said many kind things about Ed Jones but I’m going to share something with you that you probably didn’t know and that is that Ed Jones was a true blue red-blooded American. He loved American folkways, American politics and most of all, he loved American food. I had the pleasure to take a trip with Ed. I believe Representative Tim Moore and I were on that trip with him, over to Singapore and we were eating Singaporean food breakfast, lunch and dinner. After about a week or so Ed said, “You know Marv, I’m beginning to lose weight over here eating all this stuff over here. I checked…” The bus drove into another restaurant that night he said “ I tell you what? You all go in there and eat but I’m going to go around the corner. I’m going to find me a hamburger joint.” He left and I guess he found a hamburger joint but he didn’t get back to the bus in time. He missed the bus and I was worried that night sitting up in the hotel. Where in the world is Ed? Here comes Ed about an hour later in a taxicab. He came and he said, “Marvin you all left me but I got my hamburger.” I commend this resolution to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of Senate joint resolution 35 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record please do so at this time. Representative Holley. Clerk will let machine record the vote. 116 having voted affirmative and none in the negative. Senate joint resolution 35 is passed its second reading without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate resolves, the house concurring. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the house is the passage of Senate joint resolution 35 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [Crowd] Aye [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. The ayes have it. Senate joint resolution 35 is past its third reading will be ordered printed and enroll and the senate will be so notified. Ladies and gentlemen of the house. On behalf of Representative Ray and all members of the body, Chair is happy to extend a courtesies of the gallery and our deepest condolences to family members, Mary Ann HoldenJ ones, wife. Daughters Alesha Jones Garrett and husband Donzel Garrett. Andrea Jones Long and husband, Leneer Long. Three granddaughters, Farrah Long, Karisma Long and Karmyn Long. Karmyn Garrett, I’m sorry. I said Long. It’s Karisma Garrett and Karmyn Garrett and also friends in the gallery including Senator Atwater, Vernon Bryant - Halifax County Commissioner, Frank Avent - Chair of the Board of Trustees of Halifax Community College, Julia Meachem – Mayor of Weldon ,North Carolina, Carl Ferebee - Mayor Pro Tem of Roanoke Rapids, Mark Macon - Weldon North Carolina chief of police and friends from Northampton County including Bennet Taylor - President of the Northampton County NAACP, Bobby Edwards - Executive Board of the Northampton NAACP, Vivian Branch - Secretary of North Hampton County NAACP, Thelma Edwards, Marcus Edwards, Bobby Edwards and friends from Swain County, Stan Elliott - Director of the statewide CAPE program at Shaw University. Please stand and let us walk you out. [applause]
Ladies and Gentleman, before we return back to the top of the calendar, we are going to take up the next matter on page 2, House Bill 220, the clerk will read. House Bill 220, a bill to be entitled to enact designated July the 22nd, of each year as North Carolina Fragile X Awareness stage. General Assembly of North Carolina enact. Representative Fulghum, please state your purpose. To debate the bill. The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker. There aren't many people in this body, or any group of people I've ever known, who didn't have contact with autism. Autism is what this bill is really about, and it about the fragile X syndrome. X chromosomes are made up of everybody in here. Men have an X and a Y, and women have 2 X's. We can usually tell the difference. What happens in this syndrome, though, is the X chromosome is injured. Its a genetic problem. In an extraordinary number of cases in which this X syndrome is injured, the child is born with a developmental disorder involving brain function which is described as autism spectrum disorder or autism itself. Very difficult to diagnose other than behavioral, until recently. Now there are genetic tests being done and chemical and biological tests that are actually probably gonna find why this happens, and most importantly, how to stop it from happening. North Carolina Autism and Fragile X people have been reactive in this area and this resolution or designation is simply to bring attention to that fact. To bring attention to the people who are working on this and to honor them for doing that. We're honored to have a group of people who are the autism supporters here this evening, and I urge your adoption of this, recognizing July 22nd, as Fragile X awareness day. Further discussion, Further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 220 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no, the clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so at this time. Representative Insko, the clerk will opt machine record the vote. 114 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative. House Bill 220 has passed its second reading without objection and will be read a third time. General Assembly of North Carolina enact. Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 220 on its third reading. All in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 220 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, upon motion of Representative Fulghum from Wake County, the chair is happy to extend a courtesies of the gallery to a group that has been working on the fragile x awareness day designation. The group leader is Cathy Short. I would also like to welcome an extended courtesies of the gallery to Heather Short, Joel Carpenter, Adam Martin, Lynn Martin, Matthew Carpenter, Angel Armlin, Harry Adams, Gideon Adams, Jacob Adams, and Elliot Adams. Please stand and let us welcome you, and thank you for your work. Ladies and Gentlemen, we're now going back to the public bills in the middle of he calendar on page 1, House Bill 515, the Clerk will read.
House bill nine fifteen an act to amend the laws governing credit unions, Johnson of North Carolina next president of Howard PlayStation purpose license. subject to the calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker, the light is recognized the state of motion mistake. I would make is that House Bill four five seven is sent to the committee on finance that at the center purpose I would object and would like to be heard on that they the gentleman that the chair was asking for objection. the gentleman stated objection. the gentleman may state the purpose for his injection. [SPEAKER CHANGES] the speaker of rule thirty eight D talks about when to go to finance this bill does not of the following that doesn't raise revenue, reduced revenue levy a tax authorize levy the tax assessed Murphy authorize the issue upon for that. it's civil procedure bill, rep. if hours post of the bill, said Blackwell is the lead sponsor of it passed. I believe unanimously from judiciary and a week or two ago. it's ready to go draw is an empowered researcher purpose, and this figure on a set here every night on talking back and forth to our fiscal staff, and I just got an e-mail from those states that have described the building.their message back to me is that, yes, the buildings that have given funny. that's the reason for the young motion [SPEAKER CHANGES] presented Blackwell, please take your purpose speak on the motion to generate an estimate motion one X version. it stands comments the bill has received reviews Judiciary Committee. there's nothing in the bill that raises taxes or fees that would otherwise require it to get a finance think this is an effort to kill the bill by send it to representative Howard's own committee and I would urge the body not to agree to the motion at Ross. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ross procedure purpose to speak on emotion and sentiment immersion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you, Mister Speaker, ladies and gentlemen, I just wanted to say for the record that the bill did not get unanimous support in the Judiciary a committee that there were questions that were raised about the Bell and what implications it might have, not just for the treasury, but also for the court system.given that it would open up on utility is sued to a whole bunch of different people and on in ways that they've never been able to do before without any penalty for frivolous lawsuits, and his body has been putting lots of penalties on frivolous lawsuits on the past few years, but this would certainly invite many of them, and I think Representative Howard and staff on our appropriate and having it take a dip in finance presented similar procedure purpose of a fashion don't recognize the great emotion, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker just said that I agree with the with the representative power to motion in thiscase, our reference to review enjoy reading the rules. page one forty three and I would cite rule thirty eight the end of insight that the world. it is as if it in any manner raises or reduces revenue. this could potentially reduce revenue with respect to the standing issue could affect taxes have a rep from solid concur that the does out of abundance of caution, the bill should go back to finance him allowed to come out of appropriations, but that would sincerely answer is not actually had about in appropriations so have a policy meeting would have a potential impact on the tax out of the abundance of caution, where's the body 's vote in favor the motion presented Stampley state your purpose. the second on the record as a great motion. second down, but they can also not quite sure how the members of will understand that under understanding underlying bill, but the apparent argument is that will have all these frivolous taxpayers doing these groundless suits costing us money, but we have two provisions in our wall today. rule eleven and general statute six– twenty one. five, which means that if a taxpayer filed a frivolous or non justiciable action. the taxpayer gets to pay not only good for her
also, the attorney for the state or the county. so that's really not an objection. secondly, if you look at committee summary on the bill, which you probably have never gotten there yet. you'll say that the challenging wrongful expenditures has been a while for a long time and yet we don't have a lot of frivolous cases challenging expenditures you know from your discussions of that policy that PAC sexpenditures are really just appropriations by another night so the same policy that applies to expenditures should apply to tax policy as well. the difference is just that in the current wall if taxpayer,once the challenge of a application or methods are a means of collective attacks is unconstitutional that they have to first, while a contested case with the office of administrative hearings. after losing that that I have to sit even know where to start with, that the opposite. Ms. Wright of earrings has no jurisdiction to answer that this bill is about transparency of government saving the taxpayers money and putting the taxpayer on the same footing as the government procedurally don't never be on the same footing with the government monetarily they can afford it. what at least they will get a turn at bat. residents are mortally [SPEAKER CHANGES] You’re your purpose riveted by the second time we don't recognize the right motion. a second mystery Krauser, [SPEAKER CHANGES] thinking there was a physical measurement of potential cost of the same three hundred thousand dollars. remember correctly, but this would potentially reduce the revenue. this is obviously a and interesting alignment assessments by size of him just wants further discussion of finance, but not this evening on this for faculty recognized for motion in my state 's motion with the previous question installation and the previous question have been moved by Rome in house Betty's eyes and gentlemen. they have a rule, we'll think about it on emotion and then they notice you are on the dissenting or opposing sides said the chairman Roland Abbey represented Howard and reps understand will be recognized for a period not to exceed three minutes after the vote of the previous question, and before the vote on the motion so the emotion is called previous question, all is available at all opposed another part what about All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote heart-lung machine report about a gate having the firm at twenty five. the negative emotion passes were now back on the bill, Representative Paul if the eight actually by rule, a. this would normally involve you having an opportunity to speak for three minutes, but the gentleman as the positions of the first time to someone else in the chamber and gentleman is recognized that Dorothy was the newsletter of the department sent to represent a more are you and so we will begin with representatives and the chairs and [SPEAKER CHANGES] other representatives. Amara been a Blackwell would like to be prepared not to exceed three minutes. at its again license and was on the motion to re verb our house Bill five four fifty seven to the committee on finance. the members of health. you may have a chance in the next three minutes to look at the physical languages on your computer and you will see if you have that opportunity just like telling you that it doesn't raise the tax doesn't raise the assessment or the then reduced revenues. what it does is create an opportunity to save money by doing one of the things challenging the application of a local government that is violating your statutes and spending money wrongfully that a good thing that
?? Or a statute that is unconstitutional. Who’s in favor of upholding unconstitutional statutes? I’m not. Please vote no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman still has the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Please vote no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized for a period not to exceed three minutes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative Hall. Members the reason that...this is a complicated bill and it is not a simple easy bill. There are arguments that it may or may not lead to moral litigation. There are arguments that it may or may not cost the state money, that it may or may not reduce revenue. It certainly has the potential to do all of that. The fiscal note reflects that and this bill because...if you look at rule 38B it does potentially reduce revenue. If more folks are granted this granted this standing, more awards of attorney's fee’s potentially awarded. This is something would cost the state, this is something that would, in fact, reduce revenue. This may be a great bill, I don’t know, but the point is that this bill should at least go through the Finance Committee and I would think that the safe thing to do is to not rush through, put a bill on to vote, put a bill on the floor tonight, take a vote and then find out after the fact that there’s an issue. You’ve heard from the Finance chair that her finance staff has reviewed it, has found that there is a potential finance impact, and this bill would go through Finance. Both Representative Stam and I are on the Finance Committee, the Finance Committee can hear the bill, and of course, Representative Stam knows very well that if the bill sets there a while, there are ways that the bill can be removed from committee at that time. This is not a death sentence for the bill, this is a we just don’t need to do it now, we just need to run it through the proper committees. Members, I would ask that you vote yes in favor of the motion, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, again, by rule, there may be some members that wish to ask a question or comment, but by rule, the time was limited to those two speaking. Now we’re about to take up the motion to re-refer. This motion would require a simple majority to re-refer House Bill 457 to Finance. The question before the House is the motion to re-refer House Bill 457 to the Committee on Finance. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so at this time. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 85 having voted in the affirmative and 29 in the negative, the motion passes. House Bill 515. The clerk will read. Ladies and gentlemen, that was properly read before us. Representative Bell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This is the credit union conforming law bill. We debated this on Thursday. It received a 109 to nothing vote and I ask for your support in a third reading. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 515 on its third reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record please do so at this time. Representative Hanes. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 113 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, House Bill 515 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 649. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute … [SPEAKER CHANGES] The chair stands corrected, that bill has been removed from the calendar. We’re now back on page two. House Bill 330. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hanes, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] I had a malfunction on 515, I intended to vote. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as having voted aye. House Bill 330. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] committee substitute for House Bill 330. The bill’s been entitled An Act Amending the North Carolina Planned Community Act Regarding the Transfer of Special Declarant Rights. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bryan, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Fellow members, this is a bill to clarify and improve the transfer special declarant rights in the planned community...
context this is a bill that is favored by the Bar Association has been vetted in the numerous parties and past-due house industry be unanimously. let me give a very short description of the billbasically the transfer special declarant rights in the plaintiff media contacts right now is an unclear process. this bill would improve that process. it would allow you it would revise the plan community two more simply mirror the condominium act, and the uniform fan committee act upon which the act of making the act is based in and in very short of the world allow the transfer of property,especially in a foreclosure context for neighborhood to go more smoothly and help neighborhood development through the foreclosure process to be a smoother process going forward. I commend them to you, but a [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion further debate , if not question before the House 's passage of the house ready substitute household regarding out at second reading All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote what machine recorded about one hundred and twelve had a great affirmative, not in a negative SV substituted as both regarded as a second reading without objection will be rather thirds out to center. North Carolina where the discussion prototype is not a question for the houses has announced the recent state also three thirty on its third reading on paper say I help others. I know guys have asked many substitute as the three thirties, passes the reading will be sent to the Senate. house Bill three sixty one Oracle rate beside you for House Bill three sixty one, built into the neck,making technical éclair changes to the dress is reinvestment act of two thousand and eleven Johnson of North Carolina next version of Fair cloth was that your purpose is to build the gym is recognizably developed [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you speakers and members of the house as the title indicates this is a technical corrections bill. it's an agency bill requested by on public safety you recall and two thousand eleven twelve we pass the justice reinvestment act many above me. parts of it had gone in effect and as with any new thing that we found there are some technical corrections that need to be made of these are very simple and in the treatment, but they also are very important to make the bill correct, you'll see the second and third page. there are rows of numbers that simply brings in line with some of those numbers where a miscalculation was not the whole bills and technical correction last to support like Further discussion further debate , if not question before the House 's passage of the house ready substitute household regarding out at second reading All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote our quality or the one hundred and twelve, adding that affirmative none of the negative house that is exited as the three sixty one is passed second reading without objection be rather done terms of the ball, Carolina next brother discussion thread about if not question for the house is the passage of the House committee substitute out of three sixty one at star rating on favor say I all closing out at seven thousand existed out of three sixty one, has necessarily will be sent to the Senate according to send you [SPEAKER CHANGES] house bill by 32-bit entitled to make it a crime to operate an ambulance EMS vehicle fire fighting vehicle or on personal vehicle on any highway, street or public behavioral area within the state, while consuming alcohol while I'll call remains in the person 's body. Johnson of North Carolina. next is an eval more [SPEAKER CHANGES] please state your purpose to speak to the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] to demonstrate nested right about what this bill does is basically hold our eighty months EMS vehicle drivers five five euros enforcement folks to the same standard that we currently have for school bus drivers out there was nothing in the statutes about consuming alcohol while you were again one of these on public servant type vehicles are so the goal of this field is to help prevent those
basically drinking on the job, so I would appreciate your support for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? Representative Baskerville, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Plugging in my laptop, Mr. Speaker. I’m sorry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A noble purpose. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 532 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so at this time. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 532 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Harrison, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I had a malfunction and wish to be recorded as an aye on that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady will be recorded as having voted aye. Ladies and gentlemen, I would encourage you to pay special attention as Representative Harrison did. The Chair will not be reminding people voting for the rest of the evening. Please check the board if you wish to be recorded. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 532 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House Committee Substitute to House Bill 532 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 610. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee Substitute for House Bill 610, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to Reduce the Seating Capacity Requirement and Eliminate the Population Requirement for In-Stand Sales of Malt Beverages and to Direct the ABC Commission to Adopt Rules for the Suspension of the Sale of Alcohol Beverages During Professional Sporting Events’. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hardister, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The House will come to order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Current law provides that only athletic stadiums with a seating capacity of 60 thousand or above can allow in-stand beer sales, which means only the Carolina Panthers can do it. This bill would allow the state’s other professional sports teams to offer their fans the same service. This is an issue of consumer convenience. It allows fans to stay with their family and friends instead of having to wait in line at a concession stand. This is also an issue of allowing more control for the private sector. Under this bill, vendors would not be allowed to verbally shout the sale of beer. Stadium vendors would also be responsible for training their employees to properly serve alcohol. This bill would also direct the ABC Commission to adopt rules on suspending alcohol sales in the latter portion of athletic events. This is not a requirement; stadiums could decide whether or not they want to participate. And with that I commend the bill and would appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Duane Hall, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, to ask that I be recorded as voting yes on House Bill 330 and to support this wonderful bill so that I don’t have to stand in line at the Durham Bulls game. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting yes on House Bill 330. Representative Brandon, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I just wanted to basically say I support the bill and my good friend Jon Hardister from Guilford County. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jackson, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ya’ll are going to probably hear me talk a lot more than you want to hear about alcohol a little later in the calendar, so I’ll just say this. There’s a reason why law enforcement when they pull you over to the side of the road on a probable cause or believing you might be driving while under the influence, there’s a reason why they ask you to get out of the car. Requiring people to walk to the beer stand is just one more step we take to make sure they have not drank too much that day and they’re not going to be leaving there drinking and driving. It gives the people who are selling the alcohol the chance to observe them and make sure it’s not time to cut them off. I’d ask you to vote against this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I debated whether to talk on this bill, but I’ve decided to do that. We are spending a good portion of time this session toughening GWR laws and increasing penalties and decreasing BAC levels and talking about ignition interlocks, and then we have a bill that seeks to greatly expand the number of people likely to drink and drive. Let’s face it: In the smaller venues, just like the larger venue, the vast majority of people who are going to these smaller venues are driving there, and they’re driving with their families and their friends, and we want them to drink because that’s the purpose of the bill, to allow that opportunity, but we know as a matter of empirical data that the vast majority of people who take a beer there are going to be in cars a few hours later.
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question the resume milliseconds on its least during professional sporting events. so the stadium is that the soccer stadium in the type of event during professional sporting events may have tohave an AVC license under the ordinary ABC license requirements and part of that doesn't play training of those who would be selling alcohol to determine how many drinks a person has had andwhether or not there I have had too much to drink, so there is a portion of their training where they have to be able to use some judgment on who should be receiving another drink and who shouldnot urge your support of the bill 's [SPEAKER CHANGES] take your purpose to [SPEAKER CHANGES] John is right and estimate about all the soil at the stadium on which a Sony doesn't change dogs to get better service than I do it. it's usually easier to go to the window. the midwifery in beer stand sales that right. I'll take week, adding that understand that this bill is not necessarily about encouraging everyone to drink or making it easier if you look up silly like Bojangles Coliseum in Charlotte, which would now be eligible for this type of thing in the Charlotte checkers were in town. there's a lot more seats and are parking spaces. so I think we have to assume that art that people that are driving a car. hopefully they're not drinking anyway, regardless of how they get. this should really be about the three or four passengers in the car, which is more likely to record occur then the driver of the bill, a driver of the car going to do in regards to go and really think this is a good bill and something we should support it would help tremendously to a lot of these venues attract new and new eight new Phaeton events for professionals pointing harder presenters aren't essential [SPEAKER CHANGES] purpose speak on Mobile.John is recognized to write about my famous figure, [SPEAKER CHANGES] ladies and gentlemen of the house. what we have in North Carolina is an AVC system stands for alcohol beverage troll, we are quickly turning our stadium through is a system of IDC worse alcohol of beverage convenience and I don't know that we necessarily want to adopt the state wide policy where we just make it convenient for you to drink. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to have to ask people if they choose to drink alcoholic beverages at a sporting event get from their seats and walked to the window and purchase their alcohol now some of you under the impression that this applies that outdoor stadiums. this applies to arenas and indoor venues as well. anything three thousand seats or more is one of vector stadiums and arenas in your neighbourhood. it will affect arenas and stadiums in my neighborhood. I just think that we need to send the message in this state that if we're going to allow you to drink you have to drink responsibly. yes, there is a provision and hear the JVC congressional have to establish some rules regarding the way that they all alcohol but I do not feel careful way, this view is currently in. I just urge you to vote no [SPEAKER CHANGES] further discussion for the debate, if not a question before the house is the faceted as a substitute out those extent on its second reading of a re vote at all" of our equipment are collapsing record about sixty three, having that affirmative entity in the negative, as may substitute two thousand six, and his presence at reading without objection objection objection having been raised. the remains of puzzles and thirty four, the Margaret may send you for House Bill seven thirty four built in Fond du Lac to require the state board of election to enter data sharing agreements.one of the states regarding information on voting records of boat registrations improve registration list Mike Johnson of North Carolina will begin debate on this bill. pages thank you for your services,evening you are edited, you're quitting time is now your now relates thank you resented Jones. please take a purpose to make a deal. the gentleman is recognized to write about a house will come to water, making the suspect thank you to Speaker Rob places him in the house. this deal is. some is one attempt
the integrity of the voting process. Many states enter into data sharing agreements with other states to help ensure that their voter lists are what they should be, that voting records are what they should be. The only thing I would point out to you if you read the bill and you look at lines, I believe it's around 19, 20, 21, where it talks about the statutes and having other states to comply, just to answer any questions that might come up that came up in committee about that, what that applies to is sensitive information such as social security number or other information that might be used in- that would not be appropriate information to be shared, that might be a identity theft issue, that's what that has to do with. Members, I would appreciate your support for this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Harrison, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To briefly debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to remind members that during the committee, we received a letter from the NAACP and they were concerned about the large number of voters that might be inappropriately excluded from the voting rolls as happened in Florida where there are thousands of voters that were expunged from the voting rolls there in Florida incorrectly, and I think they might have some concerns that the same thing might happen here in North Carolina, so I'll be voting no. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Steinburg, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes Mr. Speaker. Change my vote on House bill 610 to "no" please, malfunction. ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 610, the gentleman will change his vote to a "no". [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? Rep. Michaux, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'd like to ask the sponsor a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Jones, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Jones, in looking at this, we've got the NVRA, and it has set up in it certain methods, means, and ideas for states working with each other on it. What I'm seeing in here is, for instance, they have to comply with our laws rather than us complying with their laws, is that what I'm seeing? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Michaux, what I see is that we are requiring the other states to comply, we are saying that any data sharing agreement that we enter into with another state would require our state, their state just as our state would, not to share sensitive information that could be used inappropriately as an identity theft issue. I believe that is the area that I see that talks about other states complying. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Another question, Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Where does it specify "sensitive information" [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Michaux, it is my understanding that the general statutes that are referenced on line 21 are there for that purpose, and that was actually, this was a committee substitute that we added that language just to make sure that there was no inappropriate information that would be shared. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I'd like to check the third reading on this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The chair anticipating an objection will carry the bill over. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate on second reading. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to House bill 734 on its second reading. All in favor vote "aye", all opposed vote "no", the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 87 having voted in the affirmative, 27 in the negative, the House committee substitute to House bill 734 has passed its second reading and will remain on the calendar. House bill 829, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House bill 829, a bill to entitle an act to allow certain ABC permittees to sell malt beverages in certain containers for consumption off their permitted premises. General assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. McGrady, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, this is the so-called growler bill, and for those who don't know what a growler is, it's a refillable and resealable glass jug that carries about 64 ounces of beer. And to give you some sense of that, that's less than a 6-pack. And growlers are sanitized, filled straight from the tap,
sealed and then labeled. North Carolina law presently allows growlers to be filled and refilled at breweries throughout the state. But what this does is simply allow growlers to also be sold at off-premises retail locations that have the appropriate permit, and under certain specifications. This is really directed at the craft brewing segment of the market. You may not know that North Carolina, or maybe you do, has one of the largest craft brewing sets of businesses in the United States, and a lot of those businesses don't can and bottle their own beer. And in this way, those craft brewers could sell their product in these containers called growlers. I would add that other states, adjoining states, have this same provision, meaning they allow growlers. I was surprised when the folks that were interested in the bill came to tell me that for example, the Piggly Wigglys in South Carolina are now selling growlers. So I would recommend the bill to you. It is the product of a lot of communications by a lot of different groups. We got near unanimous recommendation coming out of the committee. And again, I ask for your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to House bill 829 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 87 having voted the affirmative, 27 in the negative, the House committee substitute to House bill 829 has passed its second reading, and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina in action. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House committee substitute to House bill 829 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes appear to have it. The ayes do have it. The House committee substitute to House bill 829 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. The last bill on the calendar, ladies and gentlemen, House bill 937. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House bill 937, a bill to be entitled an act to increase penalties for certain crimes in which a firearm is used, displayed, or there is a threat to use or display a firearm, to make it a criminal offense for anyone to permit a child to have access to or possess a firearm without supervision and parental consent, to provide that a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit may do all of the following: have a concealed handgun in a locked vehicle in a state government parking lot, have a concealed handgun in a locked compartment in the vehicle on the premises of a community college or public or private college or university, and carry a handgun into an assembly where an admission fee is charged, or an establishment where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed, unless the person in legal possession or control of the premises has posted a notice prohibiting the carrying of handguns on the premises, to provide that an employee of an institution of higher education who lives in a certain type of campus residence may carry a handgun on the employee's residential premises and in some instances also keep the gun in the employee's locked vehicle in the parking area of the institution of higher education, to clarify the law on local government authority to prohibit concealed carry of firearms, and to establish uniform state requirements for reporting information concerning mental health and substance abuse, judicial determinations or findings to the national incident criminal background check system, and to make these requirements more consistent with federal firearm law. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Schaffer, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The House will come to order. The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, and ladies and gentleman
him, I thirty seven in efforts to protect the rights of individuals to abide by heart and lost on me, and to increase penalties on those who do not come assets without represents are not really abalanced approach to these issues. I will be having one hand, if the forefront law enforcement community. I'm notably the North Carolina sheriffs Association. I come out in support of this bill in its current form today on it. we also have the support of our Second Amendment advocates on what to do, along with representative burns in a non- work on this as well. I take you through section by section and now I'm good to take to begin with. he ever laid a law enforcement pieces and then Everton a person to amount of the Bell South. I personally have here out in infection for altering attention to that. I'm concerns of access for young children to firearms, etc. it makes it a criminal offense for any person to provide child under the age of twelve to have access to or possession of a dangerous firearm without parental permission and adult supervision to be a class C misdemeanour's criminal. all of this only applies to parents, but what would we do under the spell of it. I do any person at section five really is very important, important section increased penalties are for gun crimes, but that doesn't increase increases the penalties of various kinds in which a firearm is used,displayed, or its use or display is threatened current law right now only applies to class a three companies and if there is a fire arm that is used in connection with a crime, and there is a minimum sixty month increase out what we are doing in the spell here is that for class a through E felony, or increasing the sentence by seventy two months. on the one are all sitting infections that we are expanding the class and the families that would incur this type of penalty. I felt the class after he thought him increase of thirty six- minimum and in class. that class. each drive colonies, there would be an increase out of a minimum of twelve months and I'm going to the Isabel had a huge section on our mental health section. very, very important man, and the request of law enforcement as well.section seven eight have to do with our reporting to mix the national instant from a background check system, beginning here in these mental health section. this is really getting our laws out to the standard with what federal law requires that we had no one are doing is requiring the transmission to be made within forty eight hours of when the mental mental health education has occurred on and also instructing the administrative office of the courts to adopt rules to make sure that transmission of the report is done in a uniform manner. I'd also see in the elders of the laundry list of the specific, specific judicial determinations that will require a report on the Internet and the frame and develop an end. the last major sections, sections nine through twelfth- ten restoration of rights possessed firearms on identity, making them clarifying changes are statutes getting at getting in line with with federal law. I'm also making sure that the profit that we have to make any findings and then for restoring his right arm is uniform and applies to all determinations and findings of that is what we refer to live at the law enforcement. he said this on what one person has specifically requested, and uncertainly support so without allowing the balance reps are related. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Berkeley 's major purpose recognize great about [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you speaker. I would like to add some reputation information run through the sections of the bill that expanded in Australia and Second Amendment rights of first starting back on the main page of the bill in section one of that section language in the statute at a person with a consumer group home. it may have that handgun in a closed compartment and a lot be all that is in a parking lot owned or leased by state government, section two, the bill will make changes to this statute prohibiting file forms on educational properties in order to allow certain individuals to possess handguns on certain educational properties under certain conditions, and are run through those witty of horses, employees of colleges and universities and of boarding schools. he reside on campus on a campus in a detached single-family dwelling where only they and their immediate family reside may have a handgun on the premises of the residence and that if they have a concealed carry permit. I may also keep that handgun locked in a vehicle of private schools have the option to specifically prohibit possession pursuant to these positions, but a public schools do not
him all the second piece of that in our runs. anyone with a concealed carry permit out to have a handgun while in a vehicle on a public or private college or university, and again it it gives her the often opt out and we talk about the college. this is includes community colleges and universities as well. here is my opinion. I believe the pain of a lot of North Carolina. instead, students, parents and faculty have the right to protect themselves when they are in a campus parking lot and when they are commuting back and forth from home to school or from home to work or from there did the parking lots to their jobs are late at night a week for the a lot lately about you know that the parking lots on school grounds or dangerous place and that if so please tell me why in the world. we want to prevent law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves against those who choose to break the law makes no sense to me, and I think that you and know that students are going through their exams right now, we've heard a lot of issues. I did see, say a recently, it's been in the news with the violent sexual assaults and robberies on campus and I even offered a few of the students from.they are cited, even when they call to try to get a police escort them from the library that is a long way and they don't even have the ability to escort the students to the problem to their cars as they yet they claim they can and do there there backed up, obviously so I why we would not allow those you choose the father law, be able to protect themselves. I don't know. I think this is provision of the bill.this section will correct data. make sure that when they get to their cost that they can do so again this doesn't allow them to cure in the classroom is simply allow the student or anyone else to leave this a conceal carry weapon in also they may have. it is a commute back and forth. the third section. this bill would authorize a person with the joker from it. a yet concealed handgun in the assembly,where emissions. these charts like a theater and any establishment such as a restaurant to serve alcohol, as I believe forty three or forty four other states already permit and that that is obviously unless they give us in his consuming alcohol, which is already illegal in the state and continues to be driven so. a permit holder and have that weapon on you. it is again has a lot to do with propertyrights. this is returning the individual property owners right back to him to make the determination whether or not he wants allow and so. in his property versus government is saying you can't allow even if you so choose, and this allows them to make that decision on their own. this doesn't say they have to allow for soaker permits holders to have their weapons in their own their property. it is simply says it's their choice, and they cannot post a sign prohibiting that is, if they so choose, and section six of this bill clarifies local governments authority to prohibit concealed carry by defining specific areas where provision is allowed in reference to recreational facilities. this addresses an issue that came up two years ago where we allow concealed carry could be expanded to parks and communities and as some local municipalities and begun abusing the current statutes of this is simply clarifying and defining what we intend the term recreational facility to me and I specifically include, exclude certain areas such as a Greenway in designated biking or walking past that they had started labeling as a recreational facilities where they played sports. you can find is always set out in subsection B a in of the entire bill continues, the General assembly 's efforts to protect the rights of law-abiding gun owners and expand those rights and ensure that those who would not should not him us off by increasing penalties on violators and strengthening our mental health reporting requirements to prevent the mentally ill for being our purchase guns at its widest deal is supported by many in the law enforcement community, including the Sheriff 's Association, and many of those on the other side who support expanding and keeping your second mineral rights.Mister Speaker, I would encourage members to vote in favor the bill. thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] reasonably deeply special-purpose sin for the amendment vision was written as a board member carpal rate represented the tenant moves in, and the bill page one, line twenty seven by changing the period of that land to; and adding the following cinemas right now is to make the amendment [SPEAKER CHANGES] . thank you,Mister Speaker and members of the house. this is a very simple amendment. this amendment requires a criminal background check for any friends
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Before the house is the motion to life on the table, the amendment sent forth by Representative Adams to the House Committee Substitute for House Bill 937. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 74 having voted in the affirmative, 39 in the negative. The motion passes. Representative Jackson, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To send forth an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jackson moves to amend the bill on page 1 line 23 by [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Warren, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Motion of higher precedence. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Move that the amendment do life on the table. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Second. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore has made the motion, second by Representative Burr. Question before the house is the passage or the adoption or the passage of the amendment, of the motion. Ladies and gentlemen, the chair stands corrected. The passage of the motion by Representative more and seconded by Representative Burr that the amendment sent forth by Representative Jackson do life on the table for the House Committee Substitute for House bill 937. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 71 having voted in the affirmative, 41 in the negative. The motion passes. Representative Harrison, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To send forth an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to send forth an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Harrison moves to amend the bill on page 1 line 23 by. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Motion of higher precedence. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, move that the amendment do life on the table. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Second. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves, duly seconded by Representative Burr, that the amendment sent forth by Representative Harrison do life on the table. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 74 having voted in the affirmative, 40 in the negative. The motion passed. Representative Insko, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To send forward an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to send forth the amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Insko moves to amend the bill on page 1 line 23 by [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to state his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move that the amendment do life on the table. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Second. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves, duly seconded by Representative Hastings, that the amendment sent forth by Representative Insko do life on the table. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 73 having voted in the affirmative, and 40 in the negative. The motion passes. Representative Jackson, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill I guess. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I'm really ashamed of this chamber tonight. I did the members in here a very big courtesy and sent amendments to them the day before the voting judiciary. We were allowed to let a lot of people from a lot of organizations get up and speak on this bill in committee, which was 2 hours after hearing John Blust speak for years about how the Democrats treated him. They then ran out the clock and didn't even allow me to have my amendment heard in committee. The same [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Blust, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do not yield the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will wait and allow the chair to determine what the other member's intent is. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stevens, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady may state her point. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Are we impugning the motives of the body and not concentrating on the bill itself? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman should be mindful of that in the strictest interpretation. The lady's point may be well taken if the gentleman may take that into account as he precedes with his comments. The chair will not take that point well at this time. The gentleman has the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. So I had an amendment here today. We've had amendments that weren't allowed to be run in committee, and now we can't even have an honest hearing on something as important as background checks on the floor of this house. And before you stand up to me and tell me that we're talking about your second amendment right, how about reading the case law.
That is not what the Second Amendment says. It’s here, written by probably — I guess after the ACA was decided last year. If I was to ask you who your favorite Supreme Court Justice is, most of you would tell me Scalia. Well let’s hear what Justice Scalia has to say: Like most rights the second amendment right is not unlimited; it is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever, in any manner whatsoever, and for whatever purpose. The court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Millers' holding that the sorts of weapons protecting are those in common use at the time find support in historical tradition, of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. This Bill is not about the second amendment, it’s a policy issue that’s proper for this floor to hear and debate. Despite what you read in your emails the last few days, my favorite of which have been the ones that compared my amendments to those in Nazi Germany, I am not anti-gun, and I am not anti-second amendment; I grew up with firearms, I own firearms. I just have the good sense to know that just as alcohol and driving don’t mix, alcohol and firearms don’t mix. Our current policy prohibits concealed weapons in restaurants and bars the serve alcohol, and this policy is a 180 degree change to that. Instead of saying now they are prohibited, now they are allowed. And I just think it would be some good sense for us to discuss that policy before we have a vote. In three terms, no single restaurant owner has ever asked me for this right. And maybe some property owners do want the right to allow firearms in their businesses, I don’t know why they’d want to assume that liability, but maybe they do. And just like you may choose to only attend or go to dinner at restaurants that allow you to take your weapon, I’ll choose to stay out of that. What I do know, is that I don’t fear like the emails try to say, I don’t fear a return to the Old West. That’s not my problem with firearms, that’s not it at all. But I do fear an escalation of disputes. You know, just this past weekend at Smithfield's, two ladies got in an argument in a bar, a sports bar about 1:30 at night over a man. And one of them went out to the car and got a firearm and shot four people. Now I realize that this prohibition would not have prevented that from happening, but it’s a good example of why some people believe that alcohol and firearms don’t mix. That’s based on my strong opinion of being seventeen years in the legal practice and seeing some crazy things people do when they’re drinking. And weapons just don’t go with it. Now, Representative Pitmen a few weeks ago gave us a handout, earlier in the session, and it talked about the results of Virginia passing this type of bill, and I think it makes a good point that they have not any mass shootouts or anything like that in bars, but they have had individual incidents, and that’s what I worry about. When I go out to a restaurant with my family, I don’t want to have to worry about the guy next to me if he’s had too much to drink. I’m already worried about being out to late, that he might run me over, but now I’ve got to worry about how he’s handling the firearm that he’s got stuck in his sock. I’m going to send you an email that shows you the second point of my concern with this bill. And it’s just — accidents happen. In the email you’ll see incidents of three accidental shootings that have happened just the last few months. In Kansas three weeks ago, a man accidentally shot his wife when he reached into his pants pocket and accidentally discharged a small weapon. He had a valid, carrying a concealed weapon permit. A few weeks later, a family eating inside a Chinese restaurant in Colorado nearly missed being shot when a man inside a restroom accidentally discharged his weapon. According to the news report he too also had a valid weapon and had not been drinking. And of course, there was the incident here, well, it was nationwide — we had three in one weekend, but we had the gun show here in Wake County where we had an accidental discharge and a couple of people were shot. And that’s the main problem I have with the bill, is because an accident happened, and the more places we have guns the more accidents we’re going to have happen. If you don’t believe me, tonight or tomorrow, maybe tomorrow, stop by the Verizon store and ask them how many people a day drop their phone. I think you’ll be surprised how many people come in there to get their phone replaced. Ask them how many of those people drop their…
following in a bathroom. And that's where you see all of these accidental discharges happening. The New York City police department, they actually keep a statistic, I guess that they have so many officers they have this happen a lot of times. They keep a statistic on how many purely accidental, non-provoked discharges of weapons they have by their trained officers. It was 21 in 2010, it was 15 in 2011, and I remind you, these are people highly trained and skilled, taught every day how to store and shoot their weapon and yet accidents still happen. I'd ask the body tonight to really consider about the policy that we're changing. And have an honest debate, don't let a few people sending you a hundred emails speak for your constituents. Use your common sense. Ask yourself, do you want the person next to you drinking and handling a firearm? And don't vote for this bill unless the answer to that is yes. Thank you Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Blust, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak briefly on the bill, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, members of the House. I wasn't going to speak on the bill and I really don't intend to, now I'll leave that to others, I did just want to respond as far as Judiciary A committee I chair was brought up. We did have a full and thorough hearing on the bill. One of the regrettable things I think every member of this body incurs, is committee time is limited when you have members filing a lot of bills and a huge committee agenda, there often isn't- there aren't hours upon hours to have a hearing. But we did thoroughly hear this, and when Rep. Jackson brought up 5 amendments, I asked him clearly, can you put- and we might- and I told him we might not be able to hear- the time might not permit to hear all of these, do you have any particular order, can you prioritize them and he said it did not matter, so to come into this body now, and complain that one amendment wasn't heard, is just somewhat misleading to the body. By the time we got to the final amendment, we had 2 minutes left and I had announced earlier we would take a vote, we have to be out under the rules, but 10 minutes til the hour, we had been in there almost 2 hours, and there was not time in my judgement to hear another amendment and vote on the bill in 2 minutes. So I just don't like that not- like that implication- or not implication, said plainly, and I do think, members in here, that if you say something loud and with vehemence you ought to be able to yield to a question and back up what you tell the body. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, it is the intent of the chair to take the vote on at least second reading tonight, and if there is objection we will carry it over. According to the rules, we're to end business til 10:00. The chair, at the appropriate time if there is objection, to continuing past 10 it requires simple majority to suspend the rule and move forward, but at this point the chair does intend to remain here as long as it's necessary, to take third- to take at least second reading on this bill. Rep. Ross, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. This bill, just to remind the public that might be listening, I'm sure there might be something better on TV, but the public should know what this bill is going to allow. This bill is going to allow guns that are currently prohibited from being certain places, in these places. And so let me just remind you where those places are: As Rep. Jackson said, they're going to be allowed in bars and restaurants. They're also going to be allowed on green ways, and in park areas. They're going to be allowed in certain stadiums. And they're going to be allowed on the campuses of our colleges and universities. Well, I think that's a mistake. I have all four of these types of establishments in my district. And probably more than any single one of you. But Raleigh, just this year, was voted one of the safest places in America. We don't need your
oh, people are happy to live in Raleigh and be able to go out to dinner without fearing that there is getting the accidental discharge or call the on-call room brawl. people are happy on our green ways,they don't want to have to worry about irate fans in stadiums and our colleges and universities have said resoundingly no thank you. we've heard it from the Chancellor of every public university. we've heard it from the independent colleges. people don't want things representative Lipke told you: they don't want. why are you giving people something that they emphatically do not want and it will subject them to acts of violence in places where they already feel safe. this is not something that makes this state a better place. it's something that puts us on Stephen Colbert and we've been on cold there a little bit too much lately. please vote against this bill presented in as good a place that your purpose debate the bill is recognized and ready to go. thank you, Mister Speaker, I cannot let each other the house that we currently have a statute about storage of firearms to protect minors. it reads any person with the first. sorry person who resides in the same premises of the minor owns or possesses a firearm and start early in the firearm, a condition that the firearm can be discharged in a manner that the person knew or should have known supervise minor would be able to gain access to the firearm. we had that provision because we understand that might or should not have access to a firearm in a person who has the firearm have the responsibility to make sure the minor can't get over there are lots of other people to do that we think should not have a firearm, a person is a fugitive from justice by justice one who's been adjudicated mentally incompetent. one is an alien or illegally in the United States. someone is every renounce their United States patients. yet, the list goes on. but because you were unwilling to hear an amendment because it is not. it is not illegal for a person who has a gun to bring and keep these people who work should not have it from gaining of as a reason why we shouldn't have an honest, open debate about issues and eight. it is very objectionable that the debate would be cut off like that when this is a question important bill. we should not I can understand why anybody would want him gone accessible on a college campus when there are hundreds of people around. I suppose that you think someone could run to a car after a shooting stars run to the car and get a guy as many people would probably do you do that with a dozen people and go in with guns who were they shooting it doesn't make any sense at all to Hennepin and find on a college campus committees, colleges have elementary schools and middle schools associated with them. your opening this up not just to college campuses that the students who are younger than that to really an unsound unwise guilt down to Bill and I hope that you will stop and think through it again before you know presented in an procedure purpose of the junta 's rigorous oregano. they mistake of since then, [SPEAKER CHANGES] the present Jack's concern, [SPEAKER CHANGES] I believe we already have provisions in your layout to be drinking alcohol during web as we concealed your permit and to allow someone with superior dramatic unit weapon into a disaster serves alcohol does still not allow that person to the consuming alcohol. so that's not make that person a more dangerous. the idea about the weapons on campus. personally I feel that the new something was saying it again locked up in the car on campus. some I might break in a stale and I would say best way to do that is loudly cheered in the classroom and now then you have one test unit out a car, but I do agree with Rosetta Berlin don't at least be able to have a player Jason need to defend themselves
I believe in this bill really doesn't go far enough. I'm on for constitutional care. but as far as it does give us a good bill, and so are hereby supported. thanks [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representetor Blasier place your purpose of the patent bill must just be known as recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you, Mister Speaker. well I'll talk for a minute about the Second Amendment, but I don't know they'll do it much more eloquently than than represent Jackson did what I am sure. regardless of the effect of the second amendment is that the First Amendment is taken a big hit tonight when I am also sure is that the Second Amendment does not provide a right to carry concealed firearms or present. Jackson is right for those read the Heller case all about McDonald versus the city of Chicago. a provide for the clear right under the Second Amendment were someone to have the right, individually to keep and bear arms, the Supreme Court as long as known as eighteen ninety seven, said specifically an exception to that right was the right of present or the laws of this country prohibiting the carrying of a concealed weapon and four weeks ago the tenth circuit of the United States at that exact position. so, the policy matter this before us tonight is a policy matter, but it is not a constitutional and there should be no mistaking one for the other for me. I disagree with the provisions of the bill. the deal with restaurants and green ways, but where I fundamentally disagree the most and what causes me the most concern is the University provision in a state that both as a father who had kids on campus but also as a professor on campuses in representative in the last thing I wanted someone to have it done in my class on the tough we really don't want to see that happen. I am, but in all candor, regardless again, the policy merits both ways. we knows one thing and that is that every UNC Chancellor of every institution, every chief of police of every UNC campus every community college president who's made a public statement and the community college president of the private colleges. the people who we charged with the duty of caring for the children and the students on those campuses. we can't we give them the duty to run those campuses. they are the ones who know their discipline issues. they know their mental health issues on campus than other security issues on campus and not a single one of them. a persistent, so regardless of my judgment, or your judgment one way or the other we ought to let leases to that provision of this into every single voice that's out there who runs these institutions. we says take this provision now and yet we don't have the courage of our convictions tonight will allow a vote on that provision that is really not an acceptable way to deal with a huge public policy problems and a huge problem that says to all of those people who run those institutions on something as critical as this following new town, were not going to listen to your judgment. we know better we all know that despite the collective wisdom of this body, not the whole font of knowledge does not exist in this room and we at least on this issue, or to listen to the unified voices of every president and chief of police is spoken on this issue and for that reason, among others, I'm going to vote against this bill and I am really quite sorry that we are operating out of fear tonight because we legislate out of fear. we don't do a good job Cicely were doing this evening at the [SPEAKER CHANGES] present of Samuelson, please take your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] . if they fail the ladies recognize that I don't like to remind people that are sheriffs Association, Inc. was mentioned in earlier comments, I have a copy of the letter of their support for this bill. and remember, the shares are ultimately responsible for our safety in Representative Schaefer, North Carolina sheriffs Association has reviewed House Bill nine thirty seven and then various firearms law is adopted a position in support of this bill, thank you for working with the North Carolina sheriffs Association was important down the changes and improvements at him and played in the current version and the helpers help if you have any questions just like to remind people of the people in charge of our public safety support this bill resented Harrison. please could you purpose to debate the bill alleged diagnoses and I can assist a guy is
sorry sent from my colleagues tonight. I think that the publicly provided we were debating and on gun safety and not allowing guns in bars and restaurants in our parks and honor green ways. I know that is rougher, however, represent Luedtke indicated ever nine percent. North Carolina is not prefer universal background check on more than seventy two percent would prefer a ban on high-capacity magazines which I hope they were going to be able to debate tonight and am I know it was way too many North Koreans and Americans to gun violence every year, and I think that this related and better suited thing, and all relating take on safety as our present task, Jackson and Glaeser have both stated this is both in the purview of the second amendment that allows for the regulations of these kinds of concealed carry and high-capacity magazines Atlanta hired all hundred fifty rounds and five minutes and had even wanted to attend capacity magazine cartridge and was is likely that I want your children killed that day in Connecticut. same thing goes for Aurora and forearm, Tucson and Columbine and Virginia Tech. I think this is a most unfortunate day history with out a lot of them lately and argue that none [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alexander Tony Alexander,you’re your purpose speak of the bill. Jim is recognized to write about this, [SPEAKER CHANGES] ladies and gentlemen, the other house of first data as well as does let you know that I have presented my district and all dorms and you wouldn't see Cheryl so while all students on campus. see you in my district are as conversations with the administration of old beer him, I was just the early own are not to support the business of. it was the collective judgment of forgot if UNC Charlotte that students and firearms at an educational institution just didn't mix ourinnovative you have been on a college campus recently, if you especially have been on the campus. currently in the very athletic contest, or at some other point where students were being very exuberant, you know that firearms and students and a college campus don't mix. I am remanded also that of your alcohol and firearms just generally don't mix some fairly bizarre occurrences have happened to win those two factors have come together to actually there are some things in the in the bill that taken by themselves are not bad, but on balance, the bill goes a brutish Jafar I believe, and permits us to do some things that if this measure is adopted, we will him regretting so before you this evening just to publicly declare that I cannot in good conscious of this bill, and I was right shoe to think not about the Second Amendment in the abstract, not about your particular philosophical orientation toward his measure power with sheriffs Association. I do see it, but think about the practical consideration. think about those students. all of these college campuses and think about the fact that I
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there's no particular situation. I eyes, and( ten o'clock we would quietly to the house to move forward with the debate 's rejection is [SPEAKER CHANGES] present more purpose promotion pajamas right has promotion system in the previous question presented more matters a previous question. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote narcolepsy and recorded about seventy three have been affirmative for a negative emotion passes into the role he will think about on this bill, according to the role they minority member of the minority leader has a period not to exceed three minutes as they could probably take about an bill. the do nuts for big mistake… someone is also certainly it seems that we need to be timely. now three minutes [SPEAKER CHANGES] time was under consideration. when we decided to Silas, the people of the district do we represent. when you voted against the background checks on which radical promotion. forward on the floor just for discussion. we know you have about devoted to guess the background checks in with the same thing when you voted against adding large capacity magazines that better be heard to see if the people in the district that we represent at a voice or different idea about how the hell thatis yes, law is capacity magazines, despite no one the damage they've done and affected or not open any value in the sporting and hunting pursuits. you voted despite are ever support a amendment forward not to hear it regarding keeping God software campuses and at the same time we have a discussion about the great responsibility to campus presidents have what they got a great responsibility you cut their budgets so they don't have the money they need for security. they ask you not to put guards on a campus and you say you have a great responsibility. we don't want to hear from you and there presentatives to represent the district where your schools are located. we don't want to hear from them. he so whatever happens on your campus. whether you like it or not, even if it's your responsibility will take away your ability to discharge that responsibility. now we come to boating against keeping guns and alcohol separate. we shouldn't be scared to make public policy correctly, we should be scared of this and all his ideas. if you have the votes, and you have the power. why be scared by the skier to hear what the people have to say why be scared of it. their representatives have a say in the process. I don't think you're respecting yourselves. I don't think you're respecting the institution out of major respect in the process and the citizens of North Carolina. the deprived them of the opportunity to hear the debate and to make up their own minds as they go forward. we certainly haven't had an opportunity for them to be heard
the state. this meal, we see that we're increasing penalties. if you use a gun in certain crimes. we are making it increasing penalties. if you wound child have access to our but when it comes to the concealed weapons or snowmobile. what we are doing is allowing law-abiding, honest citizens have the right area concealed weapons. so for their own protection. the people that have a concealed carry permit or not the criminals they are not crooks. they're not people who are calls in crimes in the state. they are the people who were defending the rights and liberties of every citizen out here. I wish that we lived in a society in which no gun was necessary, but we live in a troubled time reliving the time in which people feel that they needed a gun for their own protection. the criminals already have the guns. the people who are breaking the law already have the guns we are just simply saying that if your law on honest, law-abiding citizen, you have a rock to carry a gun in various public places that you can protect yourself, your family, this is a reasonable balance. it's been well thought out and well debated larger support? what a house is the presence of the house committee substitute has gone on thirty seven hundred second reading on pay vote at all." note article" [SPEAKER CHANGES] All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote Bartlett machine recorded a seventy six and him thirty eight in the negative. the House committee since two thousand one hundred and seven is passed second reading without object objection having been raised. the remains of a down relays, and some of his complete encounter for today represented Daltrey Ragnarsson for the conference report Oracle rate [SPEAKER CHANGES] presence in sentence cop responded blog different things in the house fronts, and some Senate bill, I want to build without an active player. how long and good management action and maybe take my occupational licensing boards, resolving to lunch charges but legions under GS fifteen eighty– one forty five for a GS fifty eight– one forty five. five figure private for education 's judicial state or local government agency advised that they happen, it is not required to disclose information. the conferees, records, and how threats and to stop this report properties. the Senate so that the Daniel careSenator Goolsby and Kinard operates conference centers message adopted chair rep. since Davies knocked him and Jack's outer resident [SPEAKER CHANGES] notices and announcements revisited our procedure purpose for an announcement does recognize for an announcement, [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you speaker. remember tomorrow morning at eight thirty. we have full appropriations tomorrow morning at eight thirty, room six forty three will be taken out House Bill eight seventeen the transportation bill and we are also adding another bill to the to the to the docket from our house Bill sixty transfer of meaning cultural center property Rosetta Stone presage a purpose for announced John is recognized as gentlemen, the finance subcommittee on the annexation annexation will be the morning at nine o'clock in room four twenty four ability presenter. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Randy please take your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] general fragments for point of personal privilege. I doesn't speak I know it's getting like that of the weekend Boston County in our state law lost a wonderful way to carry all one passed away on Saturday as someone was the first e-mail Mike and County Commissioner in the history of our County. she served two terms on about a commissioner. she served on the county school board. she served on the State Board of Education or hospital board the UNC Board of Governors. she had a courageous fight with Alzheimer's. I know her family done so much for community and I just want to extend our condolences and sympathy to the family often. Kelley's motto is to be then the match our mountains because I'm reminded in so many of us are reminded on a daily basis with the women in our lives. I
than we do. Several years ago, that motto was changes to 'people to match our mountains', and in large part because of women like Terry Owen. Our thoughts and prayers to her family. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Warren, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For a moment of personal privilege, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The House will come to order, the gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Colleagues, Democrats, Republicans, I want to announce that a young fellow, a 2nd grader from Granite Quarry Elementary School was named Google's North Carolina State winner for 'Doodle for Google' competition Barryman Jonna was one of more than 130,000 students, who submitted entries this year. There is 1 winner from each state. He is the only winner, 7 year old, from North Carolina. He is now in competition with the other 49 state winners, who have their doodles displayed in a special exhibit at the American Museum of Natural History in New York from May 22nd to July 14th. I'm asking you to vote, and to ask your supporters, to vote for this young man to make North Carolina Number 1 in the country, and to help this young fellow in his contest. I've sent an email out earlier today with a Google address where you can vote, and you can socialize that if you will, and let's help this young fellow go ahead and be Number 1 in the country, and put with North Carolina at Number 1. I will send the email out again tomorrow and ask you to do that. You have until May 10th to vote. Thank you very much. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Moffitt, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you Mr. Speaker. The House Finance Subcommittee on occupancy tax will meet in the morning at 8:30 in Room 424. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative McGrady, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members of Judiciary B, we've got a special call meeting tomorrow immediately after the session. I understand that the session may run long, but we're going to be meeting immediately after the session. We'll give you some time to catch something to eat if necessary, but we need to move some bills through. If you've got, we also noticed all those bills, so members, if you have bills before Judiciary B that have been noticed, to expect that meeting to occur. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Larry Hall, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]An announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you Mr. Speaker. Democrats will caucus tomorrow morning at 11:30 AM. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The House Committee on Rules, Calendar and Operations of the House will meet tomorrow at 9:30 AM in 1425. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Mr. Speaker, a series of motions pertaining to calendaring. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman is recognized. Thank you Mr. Speaker. I'll try to go through these as quick as I can. House Resolution 696, short title Honoring Thurlow, move that bill, that that resolution be moved from the Committee on Rules, and calendared for tomorrow, May the 7th, 2013. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]House Joint Resolution 46, which is on tonight's calendar honoring Senator Warren, move that that be removed from the calendar and be referred to Committee on Rules, since we had heard the Senate Join Resolution in lieu of that. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]House Bill 834, short title, amend Locksmith License Act which currently is in reg. reform, move that that bill be removed from committee on reg. reform to the Committee on State Personnel if favorable to the committee on approach. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]3 bills to be removed from Committee on Appropriations and calendared for tomorrow: House Bill 357, Retirement government act changes to 2013. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]House Bill 358, Retirement technical corrections act. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]And, House Bill 101, to repeal the state tax. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]I move that Senate Bill 430 be removed from the calendar pursuant to Rule 36B, and be referred to the Committee on Environment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]And that's titled as Clarified electric load process, I apologize for that. And 2 bills to be removed from the Committee on Rules and moved to Judiciary B are as follow, first is House Bill 930, short title Dog breeding Standards, law enforcement tools. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]And the second one, Senate Bill 287, Notice of publication by some local governments. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]That concludes those types of motions, I'm ready for the motion to adjourn at this point of time. [SPEAKER CHANGES]There are no other notices and announcements? The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you Mr. Speaker. Subject to re-referral of Bills and Resolutions, I move that the House do now adjourn, to reconvene on Tuesday, May the 7th, 2013 at 2:00 o'clock PM. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Sam
...moves, seconded by Representative Schaffer and subject to re-referral, bills and resolutions, to the House do now adjourn to reconvene on Tuesday, May 7th, at 2:00 p.m. All in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House stands adjourned. [This MP3 was only 14 seconds long. I downloaded it twice to make sure.]