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House | May 16, 2013 | Chamber | Session

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The house will come to order. Without objection, Rule 12H is suspended. So ordered. Members please take their seats. Visitors please retire from the chamber. Members and visitors in the gallery, please silence all cellular phones and personal, electronic devices. And, we'll allow another minute or two for members to enter the chamber. Visitors in the gallery, Rule 12H is the rule that requires that we wear coats and ties on the floor. And so, I asked, without objection, to suspend Rule 12H because I don't have a tie on today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, just a question. I thought Representative Moffitt had passed a bill against that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yeah, and incidentally, it only says that you have to have a tie on. It doesn't say that it has to be around your neck. The Sargent-at-Arms will close the doors. The prayer will be offered by Representative Deborah Ross. Members and visitors in the gallery, please stand and please remain standing for the duration of the Pledge of Allegiance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members and particularly the freshman, I have told this story before, but I will tell you this. When I was a freshman, one of the pastors in my district, his wife gave me a book of prayers, and she told me that she thought that they would come in handy in my political career and they certainly have. She wrote them and the one I'm going to read you today, she wrote almost 20 years ago. She wrote it on May the 11th, 1993. She has recently passed. Her name was Mary ?? and she was a very, very dear friend of mine. "Oh wondrous worker of miracles, praise be for the mystery that surrounds us and that through eons of creation has brought us to this moment, to gather alive, breathing, moving, sensing, hoping and praying. In this mysterious instance, at this luminous time, touched by nature's fleeting beauty, praise be for the friends whose steady hold keeps us buoyant on our journey and for the messages of grace from strangers who pass our way. Praise be for the possibilities before us and for the surge of determination to accept difficulty, not as an excuse for passivity, but as a goad to creativity and the door to abundant life. And, praise to thee for all the clues of love, daring and outlandishly scattered about which overturn habit and hate and harm. Give us courage to make some of the days ahead different, bright and beautiful with your grace. Amen." [SPEAKER CHANGES] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal for Wednesday, May 15th, 2013, has been examined and found to be correct and I move it is approved as written. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves that the journal for May 15th, be approved as written. All in favor, say, "Aye". [SPEAKER CHANGES] "Aye" [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed, say, "No". The ayes have it. The journal is approved as written. Petitions, memorials or papers addressed to the general assembly of the house. Ratification of bills and resolutions, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ?? clerk reports the following bills due to ratify for presentation to govern House Bill No. 119 enact authorize utilities commission to adopt, implement, modify or eliminate a rate adjustment mechanism for natural gas, local distribution company rates passage of 484 enact to establish a permitting program for the citing and operation of wind energy facilities. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? bills will be noted

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an act for moving certain Roanne County owned parcels in the vicinity of the Roanne County Airport from the corporate limits of the city of Salisbury. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Government in favor of finance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for Senate Bill 409 ?? an act to amend procedures and to provide for cost and attorney fees in civil non-contact order cases. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Judiciary Sub-committee C [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for Senate Bill 523, a bill to be entitled an act amend and clarify the penalties for taxpayers failure to file a return. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 553, a bill to be entitled an act to establish grievance and appeal procedures for local management ?? to be managed care to organizations, Medicaid enrollees [SPEAKER CHANGES] Health and Human Services if favorable Judiciary Sub-committee A [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute number two for Senate Bill 613, a bill to ?? enact to create the North Carolina Military Affairs Commission. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Homeland Security Military Affairs [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 630, a bill to be ?? to enact to amend the laws regarding dispositional blood evidience ?? to reports after notice of an annex function of DNA samples taken upon arrest [SPEAKER CHANGES] Judiciary Sub-committee B [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for Senate Bill 636, a bill to ?? to amend the voting safety act by increasing to the fines and otherwise amending the penalty in other provisions in that act then by amending the bill for specific provisions of the wildlife laws [SPEAKER CHANGES] Agriculture of Favorable Judiciary Sub-committee B on the referral to Senate Bill 127 strike prior referrals; the referral be Commerce and Job Development in Favorable Transportation. Ladies and Gentleman of the House upon the motion of Representative of Rob Bryan from Mecklanburg County, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Representative Bryan's son Hayward and Miss McCammon's fourth grade class at Covenant Day School. Please, stand and let us welcome you. (applause)Ladies and gentleman, that was a fantastic rehearsal, when they come into the chamber, we'll get it right. House Bill 421 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 421, a bill to be titled to enact removing certain described property from the corporate limits ?? of Marshville ?? sir in North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brody, please, state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A very simply yet Marshville would greatly appreciate this annexation. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the house is the passage of Bill 421 on its third reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members, please, record. The clerk will ?? machine record the vote, 110 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. House Bill 421 has passed its third reading and will be sent to The Senate. House Bill 305 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 305, the bill has been titled an act commending the charter of the town of Chapel Hill to authorize the town to participate in economic development projects that are not in the town's downtown area gentleman ?? enact. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative ??, please, state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House... [SPEAKER CHANGES] Lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. This bill only does what the title indicates. It is a local bill that amends the town of Chapel Hill's charter to permit the town to participate in economic development projects in areas other than the downtown area. I appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion; further debate. If not the question before The House is the passage of House Bill 305 on its second reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. They ayes have it. House Bill 305 has passed its second reading without objection. It will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? of North Carolina enacts it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion; further debate. If not the question before The House is the passage of House Bill 305 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. They ayes have it. House Bill

5 has passed its third reading will be sent to the senate. Representative Lucas please state your purpose (SPEAKER CHANGES)Moment of privilege (SPEAKER CHANGES)House come to order the gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege (SPEAKER CHANGES)Thank you mr speaker, ladies and gentleman it has come to my attention that my seatmate is a proud grandfather of a person who has been elected to have the special privilege of being a special speaker today, lets congratulate representative Bell. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Ladies and gentleman those who may not have been paying attention or reading in, it was representative Bell's grandson who read in several of the messages from the senate today. Representative Pittman please state your purpose (SPEAKER CHANGES)Person privilege (SPEAKER CHANGES)Gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege (SPEAKER CHANGES)On a less happy note ive received word that the wife of Counsel man Darrell Hinnant in Kannapolis, Her name was Connie, passed away i guess it was yesterday or the day before, Anyway, i ask you to remember that family in your prayers, thank you. (SPEAKER CHANGES)House bill 273 the clerk will read. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Commitee subistiute #2 for house bill 273, a bill entitled to enact to clarify that charter schools may use state funds for operational leases, and may assign state funds to pain funds for facilities equipment operations that require transfers of supplemental taxes funds, to local charter schools outside the taxes only if specific valid language was used and approved by the voters to eliminate other funds used to account for local school administrative unit expenses, and to require accounting of charter school funds and a timeline for transfer of funds by local boards of local education to charter schools, and to provide for attorneys fees costs and interests and actions to force transfers. General ?? North Carolina enacts. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Representative Hardister please state your purpose. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Debate the bill Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill (SPEAKER CHANGES)Thank you mr speaker, ladies and gentleman the explanation of this bill from last night still applies today, you may have recalled we adopted an amendment that changed the title of the bill, which is why it was held over to third reading., I appreciate your support last night and would appreciate your support again today. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Further discussion further debate. If not the question before the house is to pass into the house committee substitute the house bill 273 on its third reading, all in favor vote aye all opposed vote no, the clerk will open the vote.The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 73 have voted in the affirmative, 38 in the negative, the house committee substitute number 2 of house bill 273 has passed its third reading, will be sent to the senate. Representative Insko the chair is trying to make it a habit of reminding members to record, you do not record with the lady wish to be recorded. Aye or no. No you cant at this time, no. The lady to be recorded has been voting no. House bill 695 the clerk will read (SPEAKER CHANGES)Committee substitute for house bill 695 a bill entitled an act to protect rights and privileges granted under the united states and north Carolina constitution in the application to foreign law, general ?? of North Carolina enacts. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Ladies and gentleman the house bill 273 will be engrossed before it is sent to the senate, Representative Whitmire please state your purpose. (SPEAKER CHANGES)Speak on the bill (SPEAKER CHANGES)the gentleman is recognized to debate the bill (SPEAKER CHANGES)Very briefly i want to thank you for your support on the house bill 695 it passed 74 to 36, we do have a friendly amendment to introduce, and mr speaker representative Davis has that if you could please recognize him (SPEAKER CHANGES)Representative Frazier please state your purpose (SPEAKER CHANGES)Ill wait mr speaker for the amendment it was to speak on the bill (SPEAKER CHANGES)Right the gentleman is recognized to send forth the amendment, the clerk will read (SPEAKER CHANGES)Representative Davis moves to amend the bill on page 2 line 46 by rewriting the line to read (SPEAKER CHANGES)Representative Davis is recognized to debate the amendment. (SPEAKER CHANGES)thank you mr speaker, ladies and gentleman of the house, an issue was discussed in committee yesterday concerning this bill, the effective date being the date it was enacted. Staff discussed this with us in the fact that such an indefinite effective date could create a possible appear of contracts issued, which would purport the act to effect contracts entered prior to the effect

date. So to clarify that, this is simply a technical amendment to specifically state that this bill will become effective and effect contracts made on or after the effective date. I believe that two are one and ask for your support, and I discussed this with Representative Whitmire and he has no objections. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the amendment sent forth by Representative Davis to the House Committee substitute to House Bill 695. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock machine, record the vote. 111 having voted the affirmative. One in the negative. The amendment passes. We're back on the bill as amended. Representative Glazier, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I'll speak briefly. I was not here at this portion of the debate or for these bills late last night. So I'm going to put my words, at least, in the record as it relates to this bill. I will be voting against the bill and disagree fundamentally with the principle of the bill for a variety of reasons. First, and I do respect the fact of Representative Ford's amendment that was done in JC and Representative Whitmire's limitations on the bill. But if this limitation and this substantial limitation on parties ability to contract and judicial independence can be done in family law cases, then it makes no sense to cabin that off from other cases. Either this is a good idea or it's not a good idea. Either it works and it's constitutional and not preemptive in one area or another. But here what we're saying is, we ought to put this limitation on contracts, and parties ability to contract, and their choice of forums, and their choice of provisions of law, and their choice of where their cases will be heard. But we can do it in the area of Family Law because it will have less effect there and probably they're more individual rights issues versus business issues. Well, to make that totally arbitrary unreasonable separation creates at it's starting point, I think, the due process problem forever invoking these provisions, and I suspect to the extent they ever will be invoked there will be immediate challenges to them. If it's important to do that as a public policy in a contract involving child custody or involving equitable distribution, it equally ought to be important as it relates to agreements between companies. Well, the argument is, that's companies and businesses and not individuals. But what about sole proprietorships? What about limited partnerships? What about the small business? Do we say this law should apply to them to protect them the same way we do individuals? Because they're certainly disadvantaged versus international corporations. There is no easy dividing line. Either this is a good idea or it's not and to say it applies only to part of our civil law but doesn't apply to the rest creates in and of itself - thank you Mr. Speaker - the constitutional problem. Second, the whole concept of telling parties that they may not put in their contracts particular choice of law provisions or where cases will be heard, I think sends an enormously bad message in the international community. This isn't aimed at any particular sphere. Although it's origin of this bill, these types of bills, clearly were aimed at a particular sphere. This is aimed at all international circumstances and what does it say that the United States wants to be so insular that we say that our law is superior and it may not be trumped in any circumstances even when the parties agree that that's what they want to happen. That's the benefit of the bargain that they agreed to. This has an enormous influence even as a law in the books as a principle of what we're doing. We don't like your law? We'll void it. We don't want to deal with the ramifications of your cultural law? We'll simply eviscerate it from our contracts. Do we really want the reverse and the reciprocation of that to Americans in other places across the globe? We have Americans living everywhere and we have in the Family Law area, particularly where I live, enormous implications where we have people coming and going from all parts of the globe, and Family Law issues intermixed with business issues. I think and understand the basis of the concern of this provision. But I think as a matter of policy, as a matter of constitutional law, as a matter of law, and really from the politics of it as it relates to how North Carolina is perceived in the international community, on all those grounds I oppose the law. Thank you very much. [NEW SPEAKER] Representative Whitmire, please state your purpose. [NEW SPEAKER] Speaking a second time

On the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I appreciate the comments, but I will simply say that had it not been for multiple cases, fortunately not North Carolina, where people’s constitutional rights in the categories of section 50 and 50-A have been basically assert by foreign laws. I wouldn’t be concerned about this, but take it as fact that this is a very, very present threat that must be dealt with and it’s dealt with in the most positive of manners so that we are making sure that the most fundamental basis of which we exist is protected and I ask that you support the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Blust please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Members of the house I think Representative Glazier’s concerns are covered on page 2, line 38 where it says: Nothing in this article shall be interpreted to limit the right of natural persons, voluntarily to restrict or limit their own constitutional rights by contract or specific waiver. Consistent with constitutional principles. So I don’t think we’re going to see some of those concerns he raised come to fruition, but I also want to address, last night we were in a rush and the question got called. I want to address a couple things said last night. One this bill isn’t need, this hasn’t happened in North Carolina yet and two, we can depend on our US Constitution, state constitution and as to the second of those propositions, I wish we could. I’ve always wanted to depend on our own Constitution. But we have seen that document put in, in just frankly grave danger and right now we stand at a point where if one justice were to die or retire and get appointed with another, that whole document could be changed. And that’s just a fact. Precedent isn’t always followed. There are things that can be found in this Constitution that nobody else had any inkling were ever in that Constitution. So I don’t have, I wish I could depend on it and I think that’s one of the big political questions that is before us still is how are we going preserve that. And it is a little bit disconcerting when you read of a present sitting United States Supreme Court Justice who goes to a conference and makes a speech which says we ought to be looking in many instances to foreign law. Where another constitutional, where another Supreme Court Justice went before some group and said, boy if we we’re starting a country we ought not to look at the US Constitution we ought to look at the South African Constitution. And there is a fear among many, and I think it’s real that certain Justices, certain judges and people in the legal profession don’t have that devotion to the US Constitution and I think this bill is partially addressing that. Second is the, the second concern was well, this isn’t really happening, this isn’t really something that we have to be aware of and I’m sorry but it is. There are, in Europe already there are some instances that in the United States where it has been recommended and sometimes followed, the Sharia Law. And it is fundamentally at odds with United States jurisprudence. Just fundamentally the two systems cannot be reconciled. Individual rights are not recognized. And I think especially from the progressive side there ought to be a whole lot more concern then I’ve seen. I’ve had a hard time understanding why there is so little concern. Because some of the groups of people that are championed, at least so they say, championed on the progressive side are absolutely trod upon under Sharia Law. For example homosexuals are stoned and I don’t want to see that get started and it’s creeping, but it is stated that within those who are pushing it that that is their goal is to have this type law.

...rule the world. And it is creeping in and certain child custody situations, in marriage and domestic law, but as it gets a foothold, they're going to push even harder. And we have seen that in other countries. We have seen that start in some other states and I am glad that we're going to take a strong stand here in North Carolina that we're not, we're going to nip it in the bud and not let it get started here. So I support the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Representative Pittman, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Whitmire has made reference to 27 cases where what we fear has happened in other states and people say, "Well, it's not happening in North Carolina, what are you worried about?" Well I say when you see danger coming, it's best to try to do something to prevent it before it gets to you. I think if Admiral Nimitz had known that Pearl Harbor was going to happen he wouldn't have had all his ships bottled up in the harbor. You need to see danger coming and you need to take action. America, you know, this is America. And people come from all over the world to come t America to get away from the kind of law they're having to live under and to come to a place where the law defends their God given freedom. That's what our constitution is about. And the concern about messing up contracts, you know, there's nothing in here that prohibits people from looking at other law if they want to in contracts, but the point is when they do, to make sure that our constitutional rights are protected. And that, to me, that's what we're about. If we're not here with the idea of protecting God given rights that are recognized in our constitution, I'm not sure, well I'll just speak for myself. If that's not what I'm here for, I don't have any business being here. So this is a way to try to help forestall danger that we see coming and defend our people's rights and I think we need to support it. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 695 on its third reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members record. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. Seventy having voted in the affirmative, forty-one in the negative. The House Committee Substitute to House Bill 695 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 730, the Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Committee Substitute for House Bill 730, a bill to be entitled An Act to Modify Certain Laws Pertaining to Abortion Health Insurance Coverage and Limit Abortion Coverage under Health Insurance Plans Offered Under Health Benefit Exchange Operating in North Carolina, or Offered by County or Municipality. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Offer an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment, the Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Representative Stam on page 2, lines 43 through 46, as amended by House Amendment 1 and 3 by rewriting those lines to read. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Mr. Speaker, members of the House, this amendment is so technical I can't really explain it except to stay Jerry Cohen brought it to me and said that they had made a couple of goofs on the other amendment and please fix it, about the effective dates and citations. So I move the adoption of the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the amendments sent forth by Representative Stam to the House Committee Substitute for House Bill 730. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members record. Representative Torbitt? The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and seven having voted in the affirmative, four in the negative, the amendment passes. We're now back on the bill. Further discussion, further debate? Representative Adams, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The lady is recognized to debate the bill as amended. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House. I know we had a lot of discussion on this bill last night. It still discriminates against women and it is wrong. It expands the number of people who can take part now in denying healthcare to women. And it prevents women from purchasing a healthcare plan on the exchange with abortion coverage. But it also presents another problem. It presents challenges to counties and cities across this State who have to provide healthcare to their employees, many of whom are women. If mayors and...

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But something does die, and yet in the tension between the woman and the fetus the woman under law of this country, in the first trimester at least had the constitutional right to choose. Having said that, what I also understand and what she understands and cannot ignore is that there are two parts of the equation. Her biology tells her that, but by contrast is exemplified by the bill last session and this one now. Abortion opponents also as Representative Adams has said refuse to understand the psychology of certain women in some of these cases. They understand that there are times, too many times, many times when an embryo for all of us is an embedded blessing, but there are other times when it is a nightmare. And too often we stand here failing to recognize how deeply felt is the right to protect and decide the processes of one's own body. And like far too much in public policy we sit here today deciding what insurance may pay for for the women of North Carolina without really asking many of the women of the state of North Carolina. Each woman is unique with the unique medical history and life and circumstance that this bill shy of the issues of rape and incest, fails to make any differentiation. and so I will use an example I used two years ago because it comes home very sincerely to me. Assume my wife and I were trying to get pregnant, assume that the pretest showed that neither one of us was a Tay-Sachs carrier. Assume the test was wrong. Assume we found out into the pregnancy that in fact the baby is Tay-Sachs and will not have anything resembling a life very long out of the womb and when it does will suffer incredibly. And assume my wife and I would be good parents and would want that child, but we don't want to bring a child into the world in that circumstance for days of pain if any days at all. And assume I have insurance coverage that specifically covers all of the decisions and the medical consequences of what we have to decide, and assume after days of crying and thinking about it and praying and spiritually making a decision, we decide to abort. After doing that, what this bill is now gonna say, you make the decision after the woman's right to know with everything that's included in that and you paid for the coverage but guess what, we're gonna deny it because 100 people in Raleigh said we're gonna deny it. You paid for it but you don't get to have it. How omnipotent the people in this chamber believe themselves to be. T9o invade my families decision. My personal decision, personal decision, moral decision, and then the economic decision that goes along with it to double the pain. That is fundamentally not the role of government. That is the first reason I disagree in every way with us doing this. This is the most intense personal, spiritual private decisions people will make. They have the right to prepare in all ways for it and regardless what we did in state policy to now turn around and say that the private insurance carriers that they've been paying cannot cover is fundamentally wrong on every level. Secondly as you discussed to some degree last night from what I'm told, it is also fundamentally preemptive by the Affordable Care Act at least as it applies to the private insurers Not only in the Duff case which came out and I think you talked about it last night on March. 14, 2013 from the state of Missouri, which makes it clear that yesterday in preparing thinking I would be on the floor I went back and looked at other cases and you can also look at a case from the eastern district of Michigan on April 3, 2013. A case March 22, 2013. A case from the District of Colorado February 27, 2013. And one January 8, 2013 from the district of Minnesota. All holding that the Affordable Care Act preempts what we are trying to do on the floor. At some point we ought to follow the law. This bill because it will be struck down, at least that proportion of it as applies to private insurers... [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do not yield. At least as it applies to...

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The member has moved the previous question, the question before the House is the adoption of the previous question on House Bill 730. As many members that favor the adoption of the motion will vote aye; those opposed will vote no. Fifteen seconds will be allowed for voting. The clerk will open the vote. [pause] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 70 having voted in the affirmative and 36 in the negative, the previous question is adopted. Under our rules, three minutes of closing argument is allowed for the Minority Leader or his designee, and the same for Majority Leader. Representative Paul is recognized to offer the three minute statement or to designate who will make the same for the Democratic Caucus. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I designate Representative Luebke from Durham. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Durham is recognized to speak on the closing. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Leader. And Speaker and members of the House, I am so upset by the decision to cut off debate. We had fourteen lights on...I believe that's as many we've had in this entire session. As we could tell from the debate, as far as it got, this is an issue that divides this chamber. It is an issue that matters, to some extent, not to all as much as perhaps jobs, and the availability of a job. But, it is an important issue to many, many people; not just to women who want the right to choose, but to men who want to support their wives, their partners, et cetera. Now what we've done here--I want to speak to what would be normally a point of personal privilege--that we have undermined the functions of this house. The House is here to debate the issues of our communities. 120 of us, to cut off debate after two, three speakers, is outrageous. I think the majority should be ashamed--not the majority--not all of you, I want to step back from that. But the Chair, and the member who called the question...it is not right to do that, to deny us--those of use who wanted to speak-- the chance to speak on behalf of our constituencies, and on behalf of our conscience. I hope, Mr. Speaker, this never happens again in 2013-2014. This is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady from Mecklenburg County, Representative Shaffer, is recognized to offer the closing for the Republicans. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We've heard a lot of debate today, we heard a lot of debate yesterday on the House floor, as well as in committee. And as Representative Martin pointed out, we have gotten off of the topic of the bill. We have--we have--strayed away from what this bill does. What this bill does is protects the right that is guaranteed to North Carolinians under our state Constitution, and a right that is guaranteed to us under our Federal Constitution. I stated this yesterday, but I want to remind you again, our Constitution says no human authority shall in any case control or interfere with the rights of conscience. Again the first portion of this bill has to do with healthcare providers in protecting their rights of conscience. Our current law protects the doctors and nurses from being forced to engage in abortion if they have a moral objection to it. This simply extends it to all healthcare providers who would be involved in that procedure and who would have a moral, religious, or ethical objection to that. Concerning the latter two portions of the bill, which has been the source of much debate, this does not have anything to do with removing a woman's access to an abortion. It has to do with not requiring people who have an objection to it to paying for it. We should not be requiring taxpayers to fund this type of procedure that they find morally objectionable. To be very clear, the first of those two provisions is expressly authorized by the Affordable Care Act. We have not gone far afield from that. It is expressly authorized which is in the handout that was on your desks last night, and I trust is still there. Secondly, the second portion regarding cities and counties, that mirrors the federal Hyde Amendment. This is language that is in our federal law. It is expressly authorized by federal law. We should not be requiring individuals, taxpayers or otherwise, to be forced to pay for a procedure that they find morally objectionable. In closing, I simply want to say that the right of conscience is mentioned in sev- [end of data...]

Full times. Right of conscience is not just some unsubstantiated concept. It is something that has been protected in our constitution. It is a venerated right and we should be doing what we can protect it. I urge you to support the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The question before the house is the passage of the House committee substitute to House Bill 730 on its third reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will allot the machine to record the vote. 72 having voted in the affirmative, 39 in the negative. The House committee substitute to House Bill 730 is amended as passed its third reading. Bill be engrossed and sent to the Senate. House Bill 846, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House Bill 846. A ?? to entitlement act, to enact the job and education privacy act to prevent employers and colleges from requiring individuals to disclose access information for social media and personal electronic mail accounts. General assembly of North Carolina, you're next. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. ?? use my get out of jail card. I've been saving that card. I thought I could bank it but I made a wrong vote on 695 and I would like to change that to no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as having voted no on House Bill 695. Representative Saine, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Inquiry of the chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, if we could, we were working on this bill, if we could displace it temporarily. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The bill will be temporarily displaced. House Bill 805, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House Bill 805, a bill to entitlement authorizing social services commission to adopt a policy prohibiting a foster parent from smoking in the presence of an infant in the foster parent's care. General assembly of North Carolina, you're next. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentleman of the House, the chair is delighted to extend the courtesies of the gallery to a good friend of many of you in this chamber and a good personal friend of mine, Representative Caroline Justice. Welcome back Caroline. Representative Cotham, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker and members, House Bill 805 is a very simple and non-controversial bill that simply orders the department of social services to create a policy so that there cannot be smoking in foster care homes where an infant... an infant is defined as 18 months or a younger, is residing. This bill unanimously and easily passed the House health committee and the Judiciary committee. I know of no opposition and I ask for your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. Representative Adams please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. The House will come to order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, just briefly, this is a wonder bill. It's going to do a lot to help our children be safe. And it's going to enable them to be healthier. Second hand smoke is a very very bad thing for anybody. And for children, it's especially bad. So, I support the bill and hope you will as well. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the House is to passage of the House committee substitute to House Bill 805 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members please record. Representative Hastings. The clerk will allot the machine to record the vote. 96 having voted in the affirmative, 12 in the negative. The House committee substitute to House Bill 805 has passed its second reading without objection, will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General assembly of North Carolina. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to House Bill 805 on its third reading. All in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The ayes have it, the House committee substitute to House Bill 805 has passed its third reading will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentleman of the House, we rehearsed this earlier. Upon motion of the member for Meckingburg county, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Rob Ryan's son, Hayward and Miss McKamon's fourth grade class from Covenant Day School. Please stand and let us welcome y'all.

him to avoid noted in the numbers and the late fourteen burglary for data building back to direct environmental ruby admissions to the reduction and consolidation, statutory models for establishing, operating and financing certain organizations that provide water and sewer services in state Johnson of North Carolina [SPEAKER CHANGES] next discussion further debate is not a question class is facet valid, going fourteen on a second reading on paper, but I'll does not know whether the all members please record Rosetta Jackson, Biloxi or the one hundred eleven Adam deferment amount of the negative house, going fourteen 's press. the second reading and revs in Hamilton. I might add that maybe a most productive second reading debate in the history of the chamber here and without Jackson will be run with our job Johnson of North Carolina and discuss the present of. I have not questioned whether House 's passage of house like fourteen hundred survey. however say I hope us a note. it has added healthfully fourteen stresses the reading will be sent to the Senate version of columns with major purpose that the Michael motion not mistaken and briefly explain it. perhaps beta of MSN 's motion [SPEAKER CHANGES] will be sailing from island side of House Bill six forty nine, a move that be will be brought back for reconsideration of the glad explained relay at the gym is recognized as an emotion, but this is the non controversial bills, the health care fix the government to put on it not been trying to get it taken off ever since.and we thought we had faith in judiciary city committee yesterday about law and with my copy of the BCS apparently what was presented to the day committee was not the same things that we were not in effect voting glass bottle. we thought we were voting on. and I would like to be able to get that fixed with your help [SPEAKER CHANGES] , I very much based on analysis. this was a matter that the Clark referred to as earlier that apparently through the drafting process. the bill that actually came before the floor at a decal editor was supposed to be out and we were able to contact the Senate. it is not been read and yet, and so we haven't back in our possession with the reconsider the value so that we can make the necessary changes in incidence of the Senate and it is a service sensitive under any other arrives in a more pleased that your purpose is to be excused pursuant to rule twenty four. one version of Berkeley 's nature, purpose, mission, figure to be excused storage room twenty four. one eight [SPEAKER CHANGES] further discussion thread about it, if not the motion to reconsider is before us all those in favor, but I also is the servant of Hastings. please state your purpose in part without a pajama mold. note that the chair is to stop the middle calling me of the value of the gentleman may state is inquiry will not sure which middle ware on the Novell [SPEAKER CHANGES] now three substitute House Bill six forty nine. it is a bill that is not on the dashboard because we're trying to make a motion to reconsider and so can therefore be on the dashboard or the thank you for the clarification is not questioned White House is the version by Rosanna Collins to reconsider the vote on the house to be sensitive to house bill six forty nine on a remote outpost about equipment lot machine recorded about one hundred eleven have an affirmative nine and the negative dimension passes resident balance was that your purpose. how might a further motion. Mister Young man. I said is most likely will make a motion that the House bill six forty nine and be referred to judiciary seat mate ladies and again we we get it. when we receive a bell back from the Senate. we just got a motion to reconsider it is within the possession of the chamber. now the government has referred

We will have to take a brief recess. Probably just meet around the table. The members of judiciary seats will basically just reconfirm they've already taken, but to make sure that the bills content is consistent with what the members believed it was on. Without objective so ordered. Representative Davis please stat your purpose. [Speaker Change] I'd like to make an announcement. [Speaker Change] The gentlemen is recongnized to make an announcement. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Whenever Speaker takes a break the member of Judiciary B would please meet around my desk, we will have a very short meeting to consider House Bill 649. [Speaker Change] That's Judiciary B? [Speaker Change] I'm sorry C. [Speaker Change] C. Judiciary C around Representatives desk. Ladies and gentlemen we have a probably another four bills to go through. The Chair doesn't anticipate much controversy. It may be worth while for us now to take a recess. Allow that committee meeting to occur. Representative Davis would fifteen minutes be sufficient? [Speaker Change] That's more then enough. [Speaker Change] I was just told by the Clerk that the PCS is not quite ready so we will recess as soon as the Clerk tells us it's in our possession. [Speaker Change] Thank you. [Speaker Change] We will move on . One question I have for Representative Saine, is the gentlemen ready to take up 846? House bill 846 the clerk will read. The bill is properly before us. Does this gentlemen wish to be recognized for an amendment? [Speaker Change] Yes. [Speaker Change] The gentlemen is recognized to send forth an amendment, the Clerk will read. [Speaker Change] ?? on page two lines 34 through 49 by rewriting lines 3. [Speaker Change] The gentlemen is recognized to debate the amendment. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. The amendment you have on your dashboard is just some language cleanup. I wanted to refer to the primary sponsor to explain a little bit. [Speaker Change] The gentlemen is recognized to debate the amendment. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. It's exactly like Representative San said. There is not a real substantive change with this amendment it's mostly cleaning up language in order to make it more clear exactly what some of these exceptions are. More specifically, these exceptions or cleanup are around private businesses and companies. Making clear that this bill does not apply to businesses being able to monitor equipment they've given to employees, businesses being able to monitor their own social sites or their own email accounts. Hope you'll vote for the amendment. [Speaker Change] Representative ??. Please stat your purpose. Representative Hager. Please stat your purpose. [Speaker Change]?? a bill sponsor question please. [Speaker Change] To Representative Hall or Representative Saine? [Speaker Change] Representative Hall would be fine. [Speaker Change] Representative Saine is at his desk. Will this gentlemen yield? [Speaker Change] I do yield. [Speaker Change] The gentlemen yields. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Representative Saine I know that their was a issue with a company in my district with Facebook. That issue with this bill, is that being cleared up? [Speaker Change] Representative Hager, thank you, yes. We've talked to Facebook and a number of other employers about the language. We certainly want to help expand privacy for their employees but also so that we do no harm to the employer and that they are agreeable to the language. [Speaker Change] Thank you. [Speaker Change] Thank you. [Speaker Change] Further discussion, further debate, on the amendment? If not the question before the House is the passage of the amendment set forth by Representative Saine to the House committee substitute for 846. All in favor vote Aye. All opposed vote No. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk with ?? machine will record the vote. One hundred and eleven have voted the affirmative, not in the negative, the amendment passes. We're now back on the bill. Further discussion, further debate, Representative Duane Hall please stat your purpose. [Speaker Change] Members this was a small cleanup of language. This is the same bill that passed unanimously ?? committee and one hundred and eleventh won last night and I hope you support it one last time. [Speaker Change] Representative Saine please stat your purpose. [Speaker Change] To move the amendment at the desk. [Speaker Change] The gentleman is recognized send forth the amendment. [Speaker Change] ?? Representative Saine moves to mend the bill on page three, lines thirty two, by rewriting the line to read. [Speaker Change] The gentlemen is recognized to debate the amendment. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. This amendment is very simple, it just makes the effective date of the act October 1st ??.

...2013. I urge you to support it. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the amendment sent forth by Representative Saine to the House Committee Substitute for House Bill 846. All in favor vote aye, all opposed no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and ten having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The amendment passes. Representative Cunningham, the Chair did not warn the members. Would the lady wish to be recorded as voting aye? [SPEAKER CHANGE] Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The lady be recorded as voting aye. Representative Millis will be recorded as voting aye. Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, yesterday I voted for it because frankly, it just popped up and it's a three or four page bill and didn't really have time to read it, but I did have some concerns yesterday but I didn't want to keep you here long. And I'm not going to keep you long today. But I'm just going to tell you briefly what my concerns are. This creates another exception to employment at will. It's another way to claim why I was fired or not hired even if it was only part of the factual stew. We don't need more exceptions without evidence of a burning fire. There is no such fire that I know of. Secondly, there are many industries, I think they carve out financial services industries, but there are many industries and services where securities claims, cash, pharmaceuticals might make it reasonable for an employer to say, "Hey, it's up to you of course, but if you want to work here, our security department must do an annual review of whatever to help us locate people who are reselling our product, for example, illegally." If a company can have a policy which says employees cannot comment on social media under the name of the company, which seems a reasonable rule, shouldn't they have the right to investigate a reported violation of that company rule and require access to a suspected site? There's another conceptual reason, constitutional rights don't really apply in the workplace except to the extent, of course, you can't hold people in involuntary servitude or slavery and that, of course is workplace. But rights like privacy or free speech or free press are not workplace rights. This bill is a bad precedent which codifies to the workplace, even the private workplace, constitutional concept of privacy. Especially bad therefore when it's applied to the private sector. I'll just give you an example. You, each of you have assistants and what your assistants do reflects on you. You're covered by this bill. And if you, for example, got a rumor that maybe your legislative assistant was talking down about you on his or her Facebook account, you couldn't ask them, "Show me your Facebook." I'm a lawyer in a small town. The reputation of my staff is as important to my success of my business as my reputation is. And I've had excellent staff for 35 years. But if I got a rumor, if somebody said, "Did you know your staff had on his or her Facebook site pornographic stuff or they don't go to church on Sunday or they smoke," or just whatever, I think doesn't fit with the image of the firm I want to give, this bill makes that illegal to even ask them to look at the site. Now I'm the last person who should be bringing this to all, because I don't even know what some of the terminology of this bill means. Did you know that at one point last session, I was the number one person followed in the General Assembly on Twitter and I didn't even know what a Twitter was, but I had a great staff that did it and I was number 2 on Facebook and I can't, to this day, get on Facebook to figure it out. It's not that I want the passwords of my staff...

Matter of fact, I have to give my passwords to them, so they can tell me what my passwords are and look stuff up for me. So, this is not anything personal to me, it's just, do you know what you're doing if you passing this bill? You have created a huge new cause of actions that will have many unintended consequences. SPEAKER CHANGE Ladies and gentlemen, I was in the process of recording votes for members who didn't record. I want to make sure that I call the amendment, the last amendment by Representative Stam. Correctly it was 112 in favor, 0 against. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome another group of students, teachers, and chaperones from Star Elementary and Star Montgomery. They're to my right, welcome. Representative Elmore, please state your purpose. SPEAKER CHANGE To ask one of the bill sponsors a question SPEAKER CHANGE To Representative Hall, does the gentleman yields? SPEAKER CHANGE Yes. SPEAKER CHANGE This gentleman yields. SPEAKER CHANGE I'm not an attorney, so this language is, can be even more confusing to me. As a school teacher, a big problem that we've been having that continues to happen is the concept of cyber bullying and kids using the Facebook and all of the Twitter and things to attack other students, or to be, use their names in a negative way, that sort of thing. And also, something I thought about in reference to this field is the pursuit of child pornographers and things of that nature. Will this legislation hinder those type of investigations dealing with cyber bullying or child pornography or anything of that nature? SPEAKER CHANGE It would now. Unfortunately, that's one area that we overlooked in the original bill, but the amendment that we took up last night, if you remember the one that talked about all educational institutions, that was an exception the university came to us with, and we made it apply to all educational institutions, and it gives them the right to not only look at that institutions website or email, but if they suspect there's bullying or criminal activity, it gives them the ability to go in and look at their private settings and private accounts, and that's for colleges, universities, as well as elementary, junior high school, and high school SPEAKER CHANGE Representative Brandon, please state your purpose. Representative Dollar, please state your purpose. SPEAKER CHANGE To ask representative Hall a question. SPEAKER CHANGE Representative Hall, does the gentleman yield? SPEAKER CHANGE Yes. SPEAKER CHANGE The gentleman yields. SPEAKER CHANGE Representative Hall, does this bill in any way, does this language in any way, restrict an employer, and/or an employer being the state of North Carolina, from their ability to access anything whatsoever, legal or illegal, that has flowed across the employers, an employer purchased, owned, leased piece of equipment, or state owned or leased piece of equipment, computer equipment, or any other device, that the employer or the state of North Carolina as an employer, has purchased or owns? SPEAKER CHANGE It 100% doesn't, and that was actually the main purpose of the amendment today. It was almost the full page of additional language that was added today. The extra language made clear that not only equipment, but their email server, their system, it actually went a bit further than that, and said that anything they acquired through their position with the state, they can also have access to. SPEAKER CHANGE Mr. Speaker for one follow up. SPEAKER CHANGE Does the gentleman yield? SPEAKER CHANGE Yes. SPEAKER CHANGE Gentleman yields. SPEAKER CHANGE So for example, the state of North Carolina as an employer, would never in any way, shape form, or fashion, in any passive way, in any shape form or fashion, not be able to fully enforce, whether it's child pornography or any or just somebody being lazily wasting time, instead of doing their job, and that being facilitated.

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would that change your feeling about me. It might. Especially if you are an Elvis fan. Or if your not such a big fan. That gives the point [Speaker changes] Representative Lewis, please state your purpose. [speaker changes] Could I ask Representative Saine a question. [speaker changes] Representative Saine? The gentleman does not have to yield. [speaker changes]I will yield. I think this would be fun. [speaker changes] The gentleman yields. [speaker changes]Would it be the thin Elvis or the fat Elvis? [speaker changes] Well, Representative Lewis I appreciate your question and if I had gotten it 10 years ago it probably would have been the thin Elvis, but given the surface area today it might be a bigger Elvis. I'm sure now everyone is looking at my Facebook account. Thank you Mr. Speaker. To that point it could shape how an employer treats you. We are really getting into as we look into the digital age how much of our private information is private. This bill kinda sets some groundwork so the employers have a reasonable expectation of what they can and can't do. and so that the employee has a reasonable expectation of what they should and shouldn't do. This is designed to protect their privacy and that is what it's really about. It's not as nefarious as it might sound if you do not understand some of the digital lingo that's in the bill. But it does allow some reasonable expectations of privacy on behalf of an employee. They check out at 5:00. They go home. They are doing their own thing. How much of it is to be shared and not shared. But it does spell out for the employer what they can and can't do with regards to their equipment, their access. I urge you to support the bill. Mr. Speaker. [speaker changes] Mr. Hall please state your purpose. [speaker changes] Although I can assure the body that I have only said the sweetest and nicest things ever about Representative Saine in my personal e-mail accounts. I would like to move to previous question. [speaker changes] Representative Hall has moved to previous question. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 78 having voted affirmative, 34 in the negative the previous question has been moved. By rule,we have 3 minutes each, but that doesn't, not necessarily required. Does anyone wish to speak on the minority side on the matter? Does anyone wish to speak on the majority side on the matter? Question before the house, does the house committee substitute for House bill, the passage of the 3rd reading of house bill 846. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 76 having voted in the affirmative and 36 in the negative. The house committee substitute to House Bill 846 has passed it's 3rd reading being ?? and sent to the senate. Ladies and Gentleman, last night that same bill was debated for about 4 minutes and the vote was 111 to 1. Representative Carny approached me earlier and asked me if I should put my tie back on because it looks like we're getting a little bit lazy here today or lax here today. I said it probably had more to due with the fact that we have a fairly light calendar. We've got about 5 bills left on the calendar and my guess is about less than about 30 minutes of debate or about 4 or 5 hours. But what we are going to do is take a quick break. I would encourage you to go to the dashboard because the bills that we are going to take up are bills that are on the dashboard now and were added to the calendar after we came into session. We are also going to take a 15 minute recess so that the members of judiciary c can meet around Representative Davis' desk. We will start promptly, 13 minute recess. We will start promptly at 1:15. The house stands in recess. The house come back to order Representative Stevens is recognized to send forth committee report. The clerk will read. [speaker changes] Representative Stevens judiciary subcommittee c House bill 649 small group health insurance technical changes favorably committee substitute number 2 unfavorable committee substitute number 1 [speaker changes] Calendar for immediate consideration committee substitute number 2 committee substitute number 1 unfavorable calendar

the members another editor JJ antechamber. the first time I think I was the matter. we just did a motion to reconsider on as House Bill six forty nine. the article rate meets a cute number tuber hospital, six forty nine. build me entitled an act make changes to the small hole or your group health coverage report back to mitigate the effects of the federal portable care act over Carolina small businesses. Johnson made of North Carolina [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentleman the house the chair would like to extend a welcome to students, teachers and chaperones from no millennium charter Academy for Mount Airy police analyst welcome thousands underwater ladies and gentlemen, we realize inside the members returned to the chamber. we've already read in the house, but he said the number two Brownsville six forty nine President Callas is recognized to debate a bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you Mr. or unsure about half the cycles in the bills. I am helpless exporting now truly is what it purports to be changing the language for small health covered so that conforms to a CA. I have checked thanks for it no longer has the extraneous amendments we loaded this thing overwhelmingly out the this one more second, third reading bank are the discussion president back and not question the White House is the passage of the house, even a committee substitute number due to hospital, six forty nine on a second reading on paper about how I was out of the [SPEAKER CHANGES] all members record or plot received more than one hundred seven, and that affirmative, not a negative. the house may substitute House Bill six forty nine is best at second reading, and without objection. we rather to Johnson of North Carolina. naturally discuss it further back. if not, the question before the house is the passage of House may substitute number two Browns ville six forty nine on its third reading author say I all but say not guys haven't housed the house. please is delivered to the hospital, six forty nine is necessary reading it will be sent to the Senate health bill mandating or great [SPEAKER CHANGES] many sensitive for hospital one eighty ago Ventana by additional funding in the state Medicaid program for the two thousand twelve two thousand and thirteen fiscal year Johnson of North Carolina enacts [SPEAKER CHANGES] Santa Barbara researcher purpose become about the donors recognize that it will. [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you, Mister Speaker has your heart last night, a representative dollar refer to this as our annual Medicaid Bayless with product shore up the gap would like to start out by saying you know when Republicans took the majority we inherited a six hundred million dollars gap in Medicaid. the following at almost three hundred seventy five million. we continue to try to reduce that the host was that it would be with the hope that it would be down to about a hundred and fifty million continue to close that I did that was what we were expecting. there was a glitch that are Governors McCoury 's department found that was used in the previous administration with a forecasting, which increases at and with that glitch added additional one need for funding, along with our intention to make sure that at thirteenth payment when it comes to the drug rebate liability that we go ahead and take care of that payment and get us a completely back on track. and as we work to continue make sure that Medicaid is is fully funded and they were trying to manage that program as needed, so this this bill will continue that effort to do that and hopefully gain you to drive down the problem that we had in the

And again, this is obviously just more proof that we need to really work with the governor as he has proposed to reform Medicaid and look at ways to control spending. This is certainly just another example of why to try to contain these costs, so I would ask for member support of the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Queen, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? recognize to ?? the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. This is a routine thing in the general assembly since I’ve been a part of it, to fix our Medicaid gap because again, this is a $13 billion program in North Carolina. We heard in appropriations this morning that there is issues about the gap. The gap is not all that big. It’s down to just around 200 and some million dollars out of 13 billion, and 118 million of this is basically an accounting issue where we have in budgets past, we did it in the last session, we did it in previous sessions that I was part of, where you take the last month and you roll it into the next year’s budget, and you sort of have the 13th month. Well, sooner or later, you’re going to have to pay for that 13th month, so this fixes that. But my point is that Medicaid serves a huge number of citizens in North Carolina with healthcare. It is a $13 billion program and it will have forecasting issues. We saw on a forecasting on hurricanes last night how many different paths a hurricane can take. In an economy as big as North Carolina’s, when you have unemployment that’s a point and a half higher than the national average, when you have issues of health, whether it’s a flu epidemic or what in the previous year for the uptake of Medicaid expenses, it’s hard to be precise, so we never have in this general assembly enough cushion to cover the typical swing in Medicaid expenditures of a $13 billion program that can’t be ?? down by it’s very nature. So, whenever we say North Carolina Medicaid program is broke and needs fixing, this is fixing. Let’s fix it. North Carolina in the last 5 or 6 years had the lowest growth, about half those years, of any state in the nation in Medicaid expenses. We have held Medicaid’s costs down. We have had some of the best outcomes of any state for the dollars spent. We’ve been recognized nationally in medical journals all over the nation for our work with our CCNC. Medical home and medical management, best practices. We are the model for the nation. So North Carolina has a very strong Medicaid administrative history. It always has these budgetary issues and they are very hard to forecast and predict. And if you were truly being straightforward in your budgeting, you would make sure you cover this. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I ask the gentleman a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Queen, this is gentleman ??, the gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Queen, do you know of anyone that’s opposed to this bill? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I don’t know anyone opposed to it one way or another. What I want to say is let’s fix Medicaid. Let’s declare it fixed so we can expand it and get the $2.5 billion needed. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Queen, the gentleman will yield. The gentleman will remain focused on the subject matter of the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I’m assuming we’re trying to fix the Medicaid expenditure gap. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To the extent the gentleman will refer to specific provisions in the bill, he may continue with his debate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Well, that is my point. Let’s fix it so we can continue to move forward in North Carolina, and again, get Medicaid for the citizens of North Carolina in the $2.5 billion expansion that we have already passed on this year. Let’s reconsider it now that we fixed it. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman’s recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would ask for a wee bit of latitude so corrections can be made in what I have to say. I’m for the bill, but what i want to do is make…

...two basic corrections. Number one, right now the shortfall for this year is $401 million. This is what we were told, when we were reviewing the budget, was going to be the shortfall. The second point is that there have been shortfalls all along in Medicaid. Those shortfalls, and I would take issue with Representative Burr, did not leave a $600 million shortfall; we left a $420 million shortfall. And that shortfall was made up the same way that you're making up this shortfall here. It's sad, but we're going to have shortfalls in Medicaid. I don't care how you do it or how you make the predictions. We have the best Medicaid delivery services in the country, and it costs to do that, and with the cost of Medicaid and medicine going up, it's going to go up. Remember that Medicaid is an entitlement program. That entitlement program is going to cost you a year. It's hard to make accurate predictions on that, and you're going to have shortfalls. Every state in the Union has a shortfall. It varies, depending on the size of their program. So folks, this is a usual thing. We don't get excited about it, because we've been doing it. We've been doing $400 million a year for any number of years. I just want to try to set the record straight. The Speaker Pro Tempore: Ladies and gentlemen, we will continue this debate until 1:30. It will then be displaced as we go to other matters on the calendar. Representative Dollar, please state your purpose. Rep. Dollar: To correct the correction. The Speaker Pro Tempore: The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Rep. Dollar: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, maybe it wasn't $600 million; maybe it was closer to $650 million. But we did inherit a hole in the budget, and that hole was created by a number of things, part of which were decisions made by the prior General Assemblies in how items were structured and how they expected additional [??} money to come down. And you can go back and look at the budget bills in 2010, and the truth is right there in the numbers. There were also mismanagement in the program that we spent the last two years paying back the federal government for. There was also, as it, the number right now is $188 million, that was the 13th payment on federal drug rebates monies that were shifted from one fiscal year to the next year that we are cleaning up, and that issue will be done with when this bill is passed; hopefully that will never be kited again. And to Representative Burr's point, the forecasting that was done last year was done with what's called a blended rate on the FMAP, instead of using the real rates. Now the reason is, you know, it shouldn't have happened that way. The administration has brought Ernst & Young in to help work with the forecasting; we are hoping to get that corrected, but there are a number of structural issues that we have been working on for over two years to fix. We hope we're getting to the end of the structural issues and can get more to the true reform of the Medicaid program moving forward, so that we can have something that is sustainable and preserves the level of benefits and the access that North Carolina has enjoyed. So I would recommend the bill to you. The Speaker Pro Tempore: Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to House Bill 980. All in favor vote aye; opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will open the machine and record the vote. 111 having voted in the affirmative, 1 in the negative, the House committee substitute to House Bill 980 has passed the second reading and without objection will be read a third time. Clerk: General Assembly of North Carolina, an Act. The Speaker Pro Tempore: Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to the House Bill 980 on its third reading. All in favor say aye; all opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House committee substitute to House Bill 980 is passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 767. The Clerk will read. Clerk: Committee substitute number 2 for House Bill 767, a bill entitled an Act enacting the Brass to Class Act, which directs the Board of Education to establish rules for awarding credit for prior work experience given to certain veterans for the purpose of placing them on state salary schedules. General Assembly of North Carolina, an Act. The Speaker Pro Tempore: Representative Murray is recognized to debate the bill. Rep. Murray: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 767, the Brass to Class Act, we worked on this legislation with the North...

Association educators, and Norcon Chamber of Commerce. They both endorse the legislation. I'm proud to sponsor this legislation with Representative Whitmire, Representative Zoker, Representative Piece, and I appreciate their service to our country, and we developed this legislation to encourage our retired military personnel and honorably discharged military personnel to take advantage of the opportunities in our educational system, and go teach our kids to become teachers and principals. And so this helps takes advantage of the great experience that they gleaned while in the armed services, and gives them credit for pre-bacherlors degree activities that would be consistent with the lateral entry type program, and also directs the state board of education developed rules specific to the military, to keep North Carolina the most military friendly state in the country, and take advantage of this knowledge and experience in our classrooms, and Mr. Speaker, I would ask that you recognize Representative Whitmire for a technical amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Whitmire is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Whitmire moves to amend the bill on page 2 line 9 by rewriting the line to read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It's simply that it's the just making one type of correction and dropping a word so that we have more universal language. Please support the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the house is to pass the amendment sent forth by representative Whitmire for the House Committee substitute by House #2 to House Bill 767. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members please record. Representative Jones. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, the House Committee substitute #2, the House Bill 767 as amended has passed its second reading without objection, will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? North Carolina ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is to pass House Committee substitute #2, the House Bill 767 as amended on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House Committee substitute #2, the House Bill 767 as amended has passed its third reading, will be sent to the Senate. Representative Speciale, does the gentleman wish to be recorded as having voted aye on the second reading? It did not record. The gentlemen will be recorded as voted aye. Representative Pittman, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To burn my get out of jail free card. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to state his request. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Wish to be recorded yes on 846. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting yes on House Bill 846. House Bill 267, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] We had to substitute #2 for House Bill 267, a bill that entirely and actively specifies the conditions under which the turnpike authority may collect tolls on an existing interstate highway. General assembly of North Carolina in next. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, to be clear, that past bill will be engrossed before it is sent to the Senate. Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Fellow house, to debate the bill. Excuse me. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Fellow house members, this is a bill that passed through Transportation and Appropriations, I think, without any descent. I've talked with Mr. Trogg and others from the Department of Transportation. They have no problems with this. There are a lot of people that really, really want this. I know of nobody that doesn't want it. It basically says that the turnpike, the tolling authority will have authority to toll existing interstate highways only if they add excess lanes. That we have to have the same number of non-tolled lanes that we currently have. They're talking about possibly doing some hot lane type stuff, perhaps where I live on I-95, and letting the people that want to go from New York to Florida 10 miles an hour faster than everybody else on less congested lanes pay 20 bucks and fly through it, but the trucks that would have to pay $70 to traverse the entire state can still stay on non-tolled lanes. Local traffic that wants to drive from Rocky Mountain of Wilson to Fayetville something can still stay on non-tolled lanes so that they have to maintain the same number of non-tolled lanes as we currently have. Again, I know of no objection to this bill, would appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Waddell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. See if the bill sponsor will yield to a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I like your bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I really do. Question.

You say that we would be able to adjust the speed limit, probably on those new toll roads?[SPEAKER CHANGES]The thought being floated by DOT, and this of course would have to have some input from the General Assembly, I think there has been some this year, is that perhaps you might go 65 (MPH) on the old interstate and 75 (MPH) in the hot lanes, or something like that. There might be a 10 MPH advantage to paying the toll and if you wanted to fly through our state as fast as you could get through it.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Follow up? Gentleman yields? [SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman yields.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Well, that's really good, because I was trying to make sure that Representative Moore was going to be able to drive that fast car on a good highway![SPEAKER CHANGES]I should have his support, thank you.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Charles Graham, please state your purpose.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the bill sponsored.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Collins, does the gentleman yield?[SPEAKER CHANGES]I do.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you Mr. Speaker.Mr. Collins, I live in Robinson County which is a border county, and Robinson County has about forty miles of I-95 going right through the middle of that county, and they have a lot of citizens in that county who are really concerned about this idea of a toll, and the potential of three to four tolls in Robinson County. What would your bill do to help relieve some of the anxiety of the folks that I have in Robinson County?[SPEAKER CHANGES]What my bill would do, is absolutely assure you that you cannot have less free or non-toll lanes than you currently have on the Interstate. No matter what's done to the Interstate going forward, if you've got, and I think in your area it's two lanes in each direction, and sometimes three lanes in each direction, you're like Smithfield, one of the congested areas, you'll never have less than that number of non-tolled lanes, for local traffic to drive on.It's been my hope (I live along I-95 as you do) and most of the sponsors except for Representative Corbett live there, and that has been our primary concern. [SPEAKER CHANGES]So call on Mr. Speaker.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman yield?[SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman yields.[SPEAKER CHANGES]So as I speak to the folks in Robinson County who have one of those public meetings coming forward this Monday, and I understand we're talking about legislation here, but can I assume that what's on our drawing boards right now is to effectively have tolls in Robinson County? This legislation would allow them, just wanting to make sure I understand, because I've had a lot of questions on this, and I have not had one person encourage me to support the existing tolling proposals. I just want to make sure that I do understand, in other words we have a northbound, a southbound I-95; this bill would in essence have a superhighway or super-expressway somewhere in that vicinity.[SPEAKER CHANGES]May I respond?[SPEAKER CHANGES]It's not saying that we will, this doesn't mandate the DOT to do anything. What it is saying is, if they decide to want to toll any lanes on interstates that already exist in North Carolina, I think there are five of them if I am correct, they can only do that if they build new lanes.What it really states is, and if you read it, we put the language in there in the last committee, at all times they have to keep the same number of non-toll lanes open as they currently have. For instance, they can't toll the current lanes in anticipation of eventually building new non-toll lanes, they can only toll lanes that are indeed new. They have to keep the same...nobody ever has to build a toll road according to this legislation, they just can't build one unless they keep the same number of non-toll lanes that were in existence before they built these new ones.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you. Just a comment, [SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman's recognized debating the bill.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Mr Collins, I think this is a wonderful alternative, and I appreciate you bringing forth this legislation, and I look forward to having dialogue about this in the future, we thank you a lot.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Robert Brawley, please state your purpose.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Speak on the bill.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman is recognized as debating the bill.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you. Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to compliment Representative Collins for bringing this bill before us. The people of my area absolutely do not like toll lanes, if you do a survey and ask them if it's toll lanes or nothing, they'll say yes, but that doesn't make them like toll lanes any better. This bill will do what Representative Collins has said it will do, it's not as good as the original bill he introduced, but I think it's what we need in this state, and I urge you to vote for it.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Bumgardner, please state your purpose.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Debate the bill.[SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill.[SPEAKER CHANGES]We keep bringing bills up. I wasn't sure about this bill, I've just been sitting here reading it and looking it over, whether this is pro or anti...

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Representative General assembly of North Carolina enacts. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Committee substitute number two to House Bill 267 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Committee substitute number two to House Bill 267 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 107 the clerk will read. Committee substitute for House Bill 107, a bill to entitle an act to allow a county from the eastern region to receive a disbursement of its share of the motor vehicle registration tax proceeds as well as payments made by the county in leiu of taxes. General assembly of North Carolina enacts. Ladies and gentleman, before we start debate on the bill, chair is happy to extend courtesies of the gallery to three different groups so please hold you're applause until I introduce all three. Another one is the, a group of students, teachers and chaperones from Covenant Day Elementary in Matthews. This group, I am assurred by Representative Bryan, has [Haywood], his son in it. Another group from Upper Room Christian Academy in Raleigh. And also, the chair would like to extend the courtesies of the gallery to [Karen Hart], the chair of the [Mooresville graded] school district board of education. The [Mooresville graded] school district was called the best school district in the country by Scholastic Administrative Magazine. It's also home to my personal friend and national superintendant of the year, Dr. Mark [Edwards]. Please all of you stand and let us greet you. [applause] And where is [Haywood]? Okay, I just wanted to confirm. Representative Speciale is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker. This bill, well, in the mid to late 90s the eastern region started collecting an additional $5 per vehicle registration. They had what they call the GTP plates for the global trans park. That money was put into a fund to be loaned to the counties and they would be charged interest and it was for economic development. For a while there now the funds haven't been used. They've been sitting stagnant and what this bill will do is allow them to divide that up among the counties that participated, and allow them to use that money for their own economic development. I ask your support. Representative Shepard, please state your purpose. Yes sir, Mr. Chair for, question for the bill sponsor. Representative Speciale, does the gentleman yield? I yield. The gentleman yields. [inaudible] Speciale, it sounds like a great idea but have you talked with any of the local counties, or the boards there, the commissioners to see where they are on all this? I have, and this is something that several of the counties want. I have a resolution here from Craven county in support of this bill and I've talked to the county commissioners in Pamlico county, they're in support of this bill. I talked to someone in the Senate who said that Onslow county was in support. So I ask for your support. Representative Collins, please state your purpose. Briefly speak on the bill. The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. I've been in one of the other counties that's had the great privilage of paying that $5 fee for several years and we had good discussions on this in government and finance committee and although my county will not be asking to do the same thing, I speak in favor of this bill which you supported. Thank you. Representative Luebke, please state your purpose. Speak on the bill. The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker and members on the House. I mentioned what I'm gonna say right now in finance committee. I don't understand how we work to develop a rural area, poor, relatively poor part of our state, by splitting the counties off from one another, which is possible with this bill. Representative Speciale has a resolution from his county commission and I respect that. And as I've said in committee, I think it'd be fine to say that Raven county can break off of it if it wants. But having it the way it is right now, one county out, another county in, an example I used in committee was Nash and Edgecombe county. They're right together, the railroad track split it. I just don't think it's a good idea. I think we could work on it better. I'm gonna vote against it. Thanks. Representative Wilkins, please state your purpose. To speak on the bill, Mr. Speaker. The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you sir. We had something of a hearing on this bill in government. It was not, it was not going very well, so it was

Well actually I was gonna say it's pulled from the agenda, that's not true, we just sort of ended the meeting. To understand what's going on here i think you need to first recall what the mission of the partnerships is, and that mission is to do the marketing function for the region and for the members. During our abbreviated committee appearance I asked representative Speciale if of these counties in the region could handle the function of marketing who they are, what they offer and where they want to go. And I think the response and I welcome correction if I'm wrong, the response was still that Craven county in particular feels like this is money that is owed to it. I don't know about Craven county if it really could handle the marketing. I'll tell you I live in Parson, we're part of the triangle partnership. Parson could not handle its marketing, not today, not tomorrow, not next year. This is about the third or fourth of these bills various county wanting to opt out and wanting to take their money with them and that just damages the whole concept. So if you're gonna vote for this understand that you're voting to kill a concept, a marketing concept that has worked and is working. I urge you to vote against this separatist bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stone please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Ladies and gentleman this bill has been in two committees I've had and I think I might be able to help it out just a little bit. Craven county, representative Speciale's bill is not pulling him out of that district, it's just simply saying the $5 tax they've been collecting, which they no longer do, which is sitting in a special trust fund away from all the other money, that their county gets that portion of the money so that they can do some other innovative things in their community. They're still part of that regional development, the money the state appropriates through regional development for his county still goes to the global transport, this is just an innovative way for them to spend money that's sitting in a trust account that they can go ahead and use now. So I'd ask you to vote for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Briefly speak on the bill a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] representative Stone said about 75% of what I wanted to say so I won't repeat what he said. It came out very detailed in finance, not only is it true that its their money but according to what the director of the eastern region told us, each separate county has their money segregated form everybody else's money in a separate trust fund and they can get a loan at 8% if they want to to do projects in their county. What representative Speciale is asking, he says we've hired economic development of people in our county, it's our money, we paid it, it's not mixed it, it's not commingled with other county's money. Why can't we get our part of the money and use it ourselves without having to borrow it from somebody else at 8%? It's a very reasonable request, doesn't dissolve the partnership. So I would ask that you support his county and let them so what they want with their money. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of house committee substitute to house bill 107 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine, record the vote. 71 having voted affirmative, 38 in the negative, the house committee substitute to house bill 107 has passed its second reading without objection. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Objection. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The house be at ease. The house will come back to order. Ladies and gentleman at this time there is an objection to house bill 107, the objection was raised by Representative Tolson. Representative Tolson please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker I remove my objection to third reading. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has removed his objection. Is there further objection? Representative Hamilton is recognized to bring forth the amendment, the clerk will read. Ladies and gentleman before we go to the amendment we need to have the bill properly before us without objection. House bill...

107 will be read a third time. Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hamilton is recognized to send forth an amendment. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hamilton moves to amend the bill on page 1, line 19 by adding between lines 19 and 20… [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very simply, this amendment will make this bill, this statute, applicable only to Craven County, and if at such time Craven County decides to take their distribution from the fund, they will automatically be removed from the regional partnership. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? Representative Speciale, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do support this amendment. I hope you’ll vote for it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the amendment sent forth by Representative Hamilton for the House Committee Substitute of House Bill 107. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the amendment passes. We’re now back on the bill. Further discussion, further debate? Representative Charles Graham, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the second reading of 107, I failed to vote. I couldn’t get to my no button quick enough, so I wanted to be recorded as voting no. Second reading. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting no. That is the first time the gentleman’s had to record since the rule’s been in place. The gentleman recorded as voting no. Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d like to ask a question of Representative Hamilton. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hamilton, does the lady yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And I’m asking this question because I legitimately don’t know the answer. I understood that the way we were passing the bill at first, any state appropriation to the eastern region would not be changed. If Craven is taken out of it, will we now be changing the appropriation to the eastern region? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, we would be. [SPEAKER CHANGES] We’ll be reducing it? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shepard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir, Mr. Speaker. For a question of the amendment sponsor also. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hamilton, does the lady yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think I know the answer to this, but so now this bill only pertains to Craven County with your amendment, right? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 107 as amended on its third reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members please record. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 87 having voted in the affirmative, 22 in the negative, the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 107 has passed its third reading. The bill will be engrossed and sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, the Chair is happy to extend a welcome and courtesies of the gallery to students, teachers and chaperones from Concordia Christian Day School in Conover. Please stand and let us welcome you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have one bill left on the calendar. The Chair intends to allow this bill to have full and open debate. If the debate goes past 1:35, we will recess until 1:30. No, we will recess until 3:30 if we go past 2:35. House Bill 938. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee Substitute for House Bill 938, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to Clarify the Functional Value of Isolated Wetlands and Intermittent Streams, Direct the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and the Department of Transportation to Jointly Petition the Wilmington District of the United States Army Corps of Engineers to Allow for Greater Flexibility and Opportunity to Perform Wetlands Mitigation Beyond Immediate Watershed where Development will Occur, and Direct the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and the Environmental Management Commission to Review Fees Charged by the Ecosystem Enhancement Program’. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lewis, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, this is a very good bill. I am aware of no one who is opposed to it. I know that there are one or two folks who have expressed a desire to continue to work on some of the language when it gets over to the other chamber, and I have pledged to them that I would do that. I do respectfully ask for you to support the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Representative Harrison, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To briefly debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, as Representative Lewis indicate, there are some issues related to the section of the bill that was added this morning in committee that gives a one third value to intermittent streams and isolated wetlands. This is a problem, a potential problem for the state, so I appreciate Representative Lewis agreeing to work with is to work out that issue before it moves into Senate, so thank you, Representative Lewis. I urge you to support the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative McElraft, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] There’s also a concern about the isolated wetlands and permitting of those at all, and I think Representative Lewis has agreed to work on that on the Senate side. Home builders have that concern. We should not even be required to permit those at all. Thank you very much. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 938 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members please record. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative, 1 in the negative, the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 938 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 938 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House Committee Substitute to House Bill 938 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, this completes the calendar. We will go to notices and announcements in a moment. We will not take a vote on Monday. It will be a skeleton session, and for your planning purposes, barring unforeseen circumstances we will also have a no-vote Monday the following week in observance of the holiday. Again, except for something that could come up that’s unforeseen at this time and the Chair’s not anticipated, both of the next two Mondays will be no-vote skeleton sessions. The Chair would also like to determine whether or not if we have a skeleton session on Monday at noon if there’s any problem with that. Provided that we have no objection, in case there’s a committee meeting running, it would only be a skeleton session. Does anyone have an objection to having the skeleton session be at noon on Monday? Noted. Notices and announcements. Before we do, before we begin notices and announcements, if we could please have the pages come to the front of the chamber and the pages step down, and while they’re assembling, Representative Elmore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This week has been two milestones for my seatmate Representative Bumgardner. He had his first bill moved through right before crossover, and also today is his birthday, so I’d like for all of us to wish Representative Bumgardner a happy birthday. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Pages, before I thank you, I would like if there are any parents or family members of pages in the gallery at this time, if there are, please stand. Looks like you guys don’t have a ride. Well I wanted to thank the pages for the pages’ family members who get you hear and back, and I’m sure they’ll be coming up to get you when the normal dismissal time at 3 o’clock comes. You all are probably the first page group in quite a long time that on crossover day got out before 3 o’clock. This was a very historic week. Ya’ll saw a lot of debate go on today, ya’ll saw a lot of debate go on over the week; you say people disagreeing but you also saw them show a tremendous amount of respect along the way, and the members put in a lot of work, as did you all this week. We appreciate the work you did. We hope that you learned a little bit. We hope that you’ll bring your experience back and your stories of what you learned this week to your family members, your brothers and sisters and your friends, and encourage them to come and join with us. Thank you very much for your service this week. Members, let’s show our appreciation. You now may return to your stations. Representative Iler, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Due to the no-vote session Monday, I need to announce the Transportation Committee will meet at noon. Our usual time

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These are 49% irrelevant. Further notices and announcements. Representative Morris recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn to reconvene at 12 noon on Monday, May 20, 2013 subsequent to receipt of messages from the Senate and re-referral of Bills and Resolutions. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Representative Moore moves, seconded by Representative Tolson that the House is now adjourned to reconvene on Monday, May 20th at 12 P.M. subject to receipt of messages from the Senate re-referral of Bills. All in favor say "Aye". All opposed say "No". The Aye's have it. The House stands adjourned.