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House | June 14, 2016 | Chamber | House Rules

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[BLANK_AUDIO] [SOUND] House Committee is on. The House Committee on rules Rules count on the operation of the house has come to order. Sure thanks to members and the public that are in attendance today. Should also thank our sergeant at arms and his settle staff for their work today. Members we have quite a full gender the chair intense have moved forth with us expeditiously as possible. Members As the first order of business will be a proposed committee substitute for senate bill 363.The proposed committee substitute was distributed to the members last night. Chair is going to recognize Representative Stan from Wake to explain the one change in this proposed committee substitute from From the last time the bill was before us. >> Yes and it's been heard in Finance and Rules before. This proposed committee substitute takes out section three, that had to do with some slight additions and deletions from the state park system, which really had nothing to do with the rest of the bill and I move for the appropriate motion For that. >> Representative Stam has explained the bill, he's also moved that the proposed committee substitute for Senate Bill 363 be given a favorable report, unfavorable to the original bill. Is there further discussion or debate on the motion? Seeing none, the question before the committee, is the motion from the gentleman from Wake, to give the proposed committee substitute Senate Bill 363 a favorable report, unfavorable to the original bill. Those in favor of the motion will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed will say no. In the opinion of the Chair the ayes have it, the motion carries. [INAUDIBLE] Members if you would direct your attention next to senate bill 748, Representative Alp is involved in another committee meeting at this moment. He asked the chair to inform the members that this is a date change only, this extends the blue ribbon commission. This is a date change only Is there any discussion or debate on this bill? If not, Representative Soccer from Cumberland County moves that senate bill 748 be given a favorable report. The chair apologizes, did you wish to speak on this Senator The Chair did not know the general was in the room. >> You handled it beautifully. >> Thank you Sir. We have a motion from the general from Cameron that Senate Bill 748 be given a favor report. Further discussion or debate? If not, the question before the committee is the passage of Senate Bill 7, the Chair apologizes Apologizes. The question before the committee is a motion from gentleman from Cumberland to give senate bill 748 a fable report. Those in favor will say aye >> Aye. >> Those who oppose will say no. In opinion of Chair the ayes have it, and the motion caries. [BLANK_AUDIO]. >> Members Members the Chair is going to move now to Senate Bill 382. The Chair is going to ask, Chair. >> Will you hold that for a minute. >> We'll strike that. Members we're going to move now to Senate Joint Resolution 718, this is a memorial resolution Which honors the late Senator Harris Blake. This has already passed the senate. Unfortunately Senator Blake has a very small family and will not be able to be here but we would like to go ahead and proceed with this bill. Representative Stam. >> I thought he was a great senator and I'd like to make a motion if I could. >> The gentleman has the floor. >> For a favorable report. >> Representative Stam moves that Senate Joint Resolution 718 be given a favorable report. Is there further discussion or debate? Seeing none, the question before the committee is the motion from the gentleman from Wake, to give Senate Joint Resolution 718 a favorable report. Those in favor will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those who oppose will say No. I think chair the ayes have it, and the motion is adapted. [BLANK_AUDIO]. >> We now move to [BLANK_AUDIO]. House bill 499, Representative Collins Would the gentleman like to explain this bill briefly or so, the gentleman has floor to do so. [BLANK_AUDIO]. >> Thank you Mr. Chair, thank you committee for hearing this bill today. This is a pretty straight forward bill. It just creates a study committee to study our Our public records and open meetings and see if there's anything

we need to do to improve government transparency on our level. >> Representative Collins, the Chair's been made aware that Representative Stam has a technical amendment on the bill. Therefore Representative Stam is recognized to To send forward the technical amendment which changes a date I believe. Is there any discussion or debate on the amendment from the gentleman from Wake? >> Mr. Chairman? >> Yes, sir. >> This reminds me of the time that my wife Told me we had a baby. [LAUGH]. It was a surprise. >> Well just like that we have great expectations for the increased transparency that Representative Collins' bill is going to bring to the state of North Carolina. The question before the committee is the Is the adoption of the amendment sent forth by the gentleman from Wake Representative Stam. Those favoring adoption will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed will say no. In the opinion of the Chair the ayes have it and the amendment is adopted. At this time the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Szoka, moves that House Bill 499 as amended be rolled into a new proposed committee Committee substitute under that proposed committee substitute be given a favorable report unfavorable to the original bill. Is there further discussion or debate on the motion from the gentleman from Cumberland? Seeing none the question before the committee is the motion from the gentleman from Cumberland to give, to roll the amendment to House Bill 499 into a new proposed Committee substitute and to give that proposed committee substitute a favorable report unfavorable to the original bill. Those in favor will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed will say no. Opinion the chair the ayes have it and the motion carries. [BLANK-AUDIO]. >> Members were gonna move now to House Bill 114 1146. [BLANK_AUDIO]. This is a very technical bill modifying various appointments. The chair is going to ask staff if they'd like to give a brief explanation of the bill. >> Ms. Grefre There are just two sections of the bill and the first one actually extends the maximum allowable term for one member of the vocational rehabilitation council and section two of the bill extends the maximum number of consecutive terms and And the lengths of the terms for members of the board of trustees of the North Carolina museum of art for the general assembly appointees. >> Members are there any inquiries of staff of this bill? Seeing none The gentleman from Gaston representative Torbett moves that House Bill 1146 be given a favorable report. Is there further discussion or debate on the motion from the gentleman from Gaston? Seeing none the question before the committee is the motion from the gentleman from Gaston to give House Bill 1146 a favorable report. Those favoring the motion will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed will say no. Opinion of the Chair the ayes have it and the motion carries. [BLANK_AUDIO] Members we're gonna move now to House Joint Resolution 1130. House joint resolution 1130, there's a proposed committee substitute for this resolution. The proposed committee substitute was distributed to the committee for the rules, therefore it is now placed properly before the committee. Chair is going to recognize the sponsors for a brief presentation on the Lushion/g, Representative Pittman and Speciole you have the floor. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Of this state who look to me and the other sponsors of this resolution is one to really put first the upholding of their rights. And there's a growing concern among some of our citizens and of some members of the federal government may not feel bound by the bill of rights. And that some in some states government may not be willing to insist upon the liberty of the people and of the state being respected and upheld against federal overreach/g. So I was asked to offer a resolution that would give our legislature an opportunity to reassure our citizens of our commitment to the bill of rights which was after all adapted largely due to the efforts insistence of North Carolina pay trips, some of whom are named in this resolution So amidst this growing concern I think to pay for their needs of reassurance I hear all the time,

from folks all over the state about the direction which they see our government moving. Some things that they feel are a threat to our liberties and they wanna be reassured that we are committed to what the Bill of Rights stands for. And what our founders put in to the constitution to ensure that the government would not tread on these rights. Some of the things that we're concerned about are the limitations being placed on freedom of speech, the freedom of religious expression especially some of our educational institutions, property rights such as under kelo/g decision. Some of these things that the government has done we're seeing to have overlooked the rights that our founding fathers intended to guarantee to us. And they wanna know that That our legislature is committed to upholding those rights and that's what this resolution is all about. >> Members before we move into discussion, the Chair failed and Chair apologizes, to introduce our pages that are here today. The Chair apologizes to them and to all the members for that oversight. Would our pages stand please. We appreciate that each and everyone of you who are here today. Thank you. [BLANK_AUDIO] Yes. Members is there discussion or debate for the bills sponsors, Representative Stam. >> Little discussion. >> The gentlemen is recognized. >> And [INAUDIBLE] see if sergeant of arms could pay them out. If you all remember three years ago we had a celebration of the bill of rights back at the old capital and we all remember that. Under the recovery of the North Carolina copy of the bill of rights. And at that time I passed out a paper, I'd like to pass it to the sergeant at arms I'm passing out. Basically showing how the US constitution bill of rights which wasn't ratified till 1791 is really the Primarily from the North Carolina declaration of rights which was passed 15 years earlier. And I think it's really interesting and the fact that passed out, Mr. Chairman. >> The chair directs the Sergeant at Arms to distribute the material, also to make it part of the record of the committee Do you have any further remarks Representative Stan? >> Let me let other people bill first then I'll have a couple of thoughts. >> Representative Tobbert, for what purpose does the gentleman seek recognition? >> Mr. Chairman I'd like to question the gentleman from Wake. >> Will the gentleman from Wake yield to the gentleman from Gustin? >> I do. >> Are you suggesting that perhaps even back then the first First stop they came across legislator's man was to look around see what other states were doing? >> Actually, when the first congress considered the bill of rights, they did look around to the Virginia statute and What's kind of constitution five or six others it didn't just spring unbeaten from the sea farm of the GNC like, you know who. They came from basic rights the people thought they had to start with. And I know I know that when we swear our oath, we don't just swear our oath to the constitution of The United States, but also to the constitution of North Carolina. Not in consist that there will. So, I thought that might be helpful. [BLANK_AUDIO] Is there further discussion or debate? Representative Pepper. >> Just one thing. Just um taking off of what representative Stan just said I completely agree with that and part of the point is that um we want to reassure some people who think that our government may be straying from that commitment that this This stake still opposes those bays and those concerns. [BLANK_AUDIO] >>Further discussional debate >> Yes >> The representative state your purpose. >> I just saw this morning, and yes a lot of good stuff and we all pledge this when we take our oath of office. >> Beth And it recites the constitution, but it only urges us to take particular bill of rights and its entirety. When I think we would all be equally willing to uphold that kind of decoration of rights and assumption of state rights kind of person. So I have an amendment for it Mr. Chair, the staff is in search of the decoration of rights. >> Okay, let's show that to the bill sponsors and then distribute

to the committee. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Mr. Chair. >> Representative Berman . >> Representative Speciale and I recognized that So foundational to the Bill of Rights itself.So I don't think we have an objection to adding this. >> Representative Stam has moved to amend house resolution 1130. The resolution has been distributed to the members. The bill sponsor is not opposed to To the amendment. Is there further discussion to debate on Representative Stam's amendment? So none. Those favor in adoption of the amendment will say, Aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed will say no. Opinions here,the ayes have it. And the amendment is adopted.Is there further discussion on house resolution 1130 as amended.Say none. The question before the committee is the chair apologizes. Representative Stam from Wake county, moves that house joint resolution 1130 as amended be rolled into a new proposed committee substitute and that, that proposed committee substitute begin a favorable report and a favor to the original bill. Is there further discussion to debate? >> See none the question before the committee is a motion from the gentleman from Wake, that the house joint resolution 1130 as amended be rolled to a new committee substitute and that , that proposed committee substitute begin to favorable report on favor to the original bill.Those favoring the motion Motion will say aye. >> Aye.>> Those opposed will say no. In opinions here, the ayes have it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you gentleman. Members because of a previously scheduled budget meeting the house committee on rules will need to stand in recess until noon. It will reconvene in This room at noon if there is a change to that, the change would be in the room,so the chair would encourage you, to stay in touch with your offices or your emails but with that and until noon the committee does stand recessed.[BLANK_AUDIO] [NOISE] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO]